Hawkster

Thanks for the updates

This has gotten so far out of hand. It's to the point I wish Kelley and Faison would simply ignore the law and stop using the name. Everyone has admitted there is no penalty. I say retire it and fight it out in the courts rather then put up with the sanctions and bad press that seem to keep piling on.

Friday Nelson, Saturday Rowney

I've got another question on the petition. I remember a fair amount of ND law from my Poli Sci days. If a legislative bill contains an emergency clause and is passed by 2/3 of both houses and is signed by the governor, it becomes law immediately. (so far, so good). If a law with an emergency clause is referred, the law remains in effect until it is voted on in the next statewide election and the results of the vote become immediate upon the votes being counted and certified. (rather then be suspended until the vote) So, why didn't the november repeal bill stand until the June primary? The bill removing the name went into effect immediately, so I'm guessing it had an emergency clause, and I'm sure it got 2/3 majority in both houses. The reason I remember the way referals work is because of the ND Sunday opening law. In 1989, Sunday opening had the emergency clause and went into effect immediately. That way, when it was referred, (and it was), ND still had Sunday opening until it was voted on in June of 1990, almost a year and a half later. That way people would get used to Sunday opening and it would pass. So, why didn't it apply in our case? I just can't figure out what was different, but obviously something was. I'm not sure it would have made any difference on the end either. We'd still be at the mercy of the vote and still be dangling in the wind. This scenerio only applies to emergency clause bills, btw.

Not the BEST hope, I think it's the ONLY hope.

I'm not promising I have it right, but this is how I think it's interpretted. The original April bill forced the nickname, and the November bill repealed it. When a bill gets referred, the bill is stopped, but the wording on the ballet is essentially "Shall this bill be approved". In this case, approval of the November bill and referal repeals the April mandate, thus discontinuing the name. At any rate, it's going to be confusing, no doubt about it.

This is what scares me. You have it worded backwards. If the June measure fails (more NO votes), the repeal fails, and the original April bill mandating the name stays. It takes a YES vote to get rid of the nickname. If it passes, then presumably the nickname at all cost crowd will come with a constitutional amendment. Guys, we have to get this right or our own supporters are going to be confused on which way to vote.

Well, it seemed like every week he added another guy to ignore list. By now he probably has the entire board on ignore.

The problem is, Terry Wanless won't be anywhere near the closed room where this vote will take place The guy calling the shots will be the Sac State President and it wouldn't surprise me if the guy has never been to ND I wouldn't take anything for granted if the name is allowed to stay.

Ask our friends at the NCAA and the save the name crowd if we can host ANYTHING right now?

That still doesn't explain the Mines cupcake game. Let's try and avoid this junk about who plays a better OCC schedule.

The way I understand ND law is that the petitions stopped the repeal of the original law, so the ballet question will be "Do you support the repeal of the bill mandating the use of the Sioux nickname. In other words, a YES vote gets rid of the name, a NO vote keeps the name. As I said before, good luck getting that explained to some people.

Do you really think that U of Sioux Falls and SD School of Mines are better? They are NAIA/D2 schools for crying out loud. You are starting to embarrass us.

I wonder how many people are going to be confused on what "yes" and "no" mean. A yes vote will uphold the repeal of the earlier bill which mandated the name stay. In other words, a yes vote gets rid of the name, a no vote leaves the name. Try explaining that to some people.

Have a feeling things are going to get uglier now

Story of my life, but I'd rather have the team win then me. Keep up the good work.

Same here, thanks for the updates.

Ahh, I haven't picked for Saturday yet, and I still have the Lammy card to play too.

Friday night, Friday Knight.

I was one of the first here to favor changing the name, but got flamed so bad I just kept quiet after that. Time for me to speak up again. There is no doubt that you are dead right about what the western members will do to us if it comes down to a vote since we aren't full fledged members yet, they don't need a unanomous vote.

Friday-Kristo Saturday-Nelson

Gotta say, this team shows some flash of promise at times. I think some maturity will make them even better.

Yo

Come on PP

Just letting the world know I'm here. Not that it counts for much.