Siouxperman8
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I don't believe UND will eliminate women's hockey because of Title IX. It is arguably the highest profile women's team due to consistently ranking in the top 10-15 nationally and would face a lot of criticism for that reason.
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12 minutes ago, goyotes said:
Like I stated earlier, I think UND joining the Summit is a win/win and would definitely add strength and stability to the Summit. That still leaves the football question. A strong Summit is good for the MVFC. UND's path to joining the MVFC comes down to these 2 questions:
1)How much leverage could USD, SDSU, NDSU & WIU exert on the MVFC to add UND? The MVFC without the 4 Summit schools would be on dangerous footings.
2)Would the 4 Summit League schools exercise that leverage?
NDSU administration has been very clear by their actions that their intention is to stick it to UND football for not scheduling them during their transition. I don't think they are looking to do us any favors with a large issue like league membership.
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3 hours ago, mksioux said:
The article that you posted (which was circulated and discussed on this board at the time) shows that the MVFC had no interest in adding UND back in 2010. Unless something has changed, I don't see any reason to think UND might be going to the Summit/MVFC. Does the MVFC all of sudden want to go to 11 teams, which they were so adamantly against back in 2010? I doubt it. And I'm someone who would love to see UND in the Summit/MVFC, but I just don't see it happening unless the MVFC loses a team or two.
I have no interest in pursuing a Big Sky football-only membership and going to the Summit for other sports (even if it were a possibility, which I doubt it is).
In short, the MVFC holds all the cards. If they ever want UND, I think there is a reasonable chance it would happen. Until then, I believe UND will stay in the Big Sky.
This is why we aren't in the MVFC and Summit. We tried for 4+ years and were constantly turned down. At some point we had to make a move and took the Big Sky offer. It's revisionist history to say that we should have waited on a MVFC/Summit offer. It wasn't coming and we needed a football home. I hope that has changed but I haven't heard that it has.
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9 minutes ago, Thumper 76 said:
So was reading through cause you guys have an interesting situation going on and this is wildly inaccurate. And I know you're in left field with this stuff as it is, but here's reality. The money from TV contracts are gone for any team outside the Power 5 conferences. You can see from the new Conference USA deal that just got done. The schools are going from receiving 1.1 million a year to 200,000. 200,000 to play crappy Tuesday games and take on all the added expenses of a FBS program. The big networks aren't going to pay for the G5 conference TV rights anymore. Sorry. http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/old-dominion/football/conference-usa-tv-revenue-to-plummet-to-million-per-year/article_1dd435cb-800e-574d-be6d-0afa42d957e7.html
Number two: FBS schools lose less money than FCS schools. Wrong again. Not only is that not true, but the NCAA found in a 2012 study that overall the FCS is growing revenue at a faster pace than FBS schools, while the expenses are raising at a slower rate than FBS schools. In fact, the G5 schools lose an average of $17.5 million, annually. http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/08/ncaa_study_finds_all_but_20_fb.html
Oh, and you're worried about a deficit of $1.4 million for the athletic department? Do you dream of making the money of Cincinnati? Maybe of the University of Houston? Or maybe UNLV or Memphis? They've all been to some glitzy bowl games and are on ESPN. And each one has over a $19 million athletic department deficit or larger. Up to $30 million plus. http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/uab-football-isnt-alone-in-losing-money-for-athletic-departments/
So argue for FBS as much as you want but use facts.
Let's be clear. there aren't many on here arguing for FBS.
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17 minutes ago, Yotes said:
So the Big Sky suddenly won't allow football only members? Summit League makes infinitely more sense for all other sports so long as football isn't left homeless. I hope to see UND come to their senses and explore this option. Travelling between 800 and 1800 miles for every single conference road game makes no sense whatsoever.
I could be wrong but at the time we joined the Big Sky I think it was all or nothing with them
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We are going too. Section 121 is the UND section
i called the ticket office out there and they sold me tickets in the UND section
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9 hours ago, SooToo said:
There was nothing stopping UND admin from completing the Summit site visit and informally exploring the possibility of MVFC invite -- just as USD did -- before answering the Big Sky offer. But they didn't because they saw the Big Sky offer as clearly superior, as Faison publicly stated. A formal, up-front offer from the MVFC may or may not have changed that.
I was told from people in the athletic department when this was going on that an MVFC invite was what we needed and then we would have done the summit/MVFC combo. with no football conference coming we had had not choice but the Big Sky and it was superior considering that it included a home for the football team. would you have expected him to say we were settling for the Big Sky?
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14 minutes ago, SooToo said:
I think your recollection of the history here is a bit muddled. No one offered while UND was slogging through the initial years of transition -- just as was the case for the AC and SDSU earlier. It was UND that cancelled the Summit site visit, a precursor to a certain conference invite, on the eve of the visit when the Big Sky came calling with a membership offer. Faison called that decision a "no-brainer." A formal football invite from the Gateway conference (MVFC) may have changed the equation, but it certainly was not a given.
Personally, I much prefer the BSC over the NCC 2.0. Travel costs, unfortunately, could alter the assessment by UND admin.
Without a home for football the Summit visit was meaningless and nothing was coming from the MVFC. We got a Big Sky invite on the eve of the Summit visit and couldn't afford to turn it down. They had 4-5 years to extend an invite if they were serious.
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18 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:I'll bite. Have you seen the schedule for the bus tour? It's pretty tight.
He's on the bus, socializing with faculty and spouses. He's off the bus, socializing with community leaders and alumni. It's a carefully planned program, not a leisure trip.
Also, this wasn't a press release, it was an internal e-mail. While one could anticipate it leaking, it wasn't a deliberate external communication. Any media questions can (and should) be carefully formulated and asked at an appropriate time after he returns.
Cell service in western ND is probably not as robust as you imagine.
What Miller did was amateur and bush-league. In other words, Rob Portly. Even if the questions are legitimate, that's not the way to treat a brand new executive. Does anything about getting more flies with honey than with vinegar ring a bell with you? The relationship between the local media and Kennedy is a delicate and important one...a shaky foundation is stupid on all fronts. As much as I loathe much of the incessant rambling of the Herald's more 'senior' writers and columnists, Tom would be well suited to take a seat on their knees.
There's nothing urgent about the e-mail. A committee has been tasked (huge surprise there) but its work will likely take until the end of the calendar year.
Give the guy a break...these ND president jobs are looking more toxic by the minute. Professional kryptonite, if you will, and the quality of the applicant pools will soon reflect that, if it hasn't already.
Schlossman tweeted that an announcement was coming Monday or Tuesday so he knew it was gonna get out. The email opens up a ton of questions. Find an hour to answer questions is all I am saying.
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4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
Wasn't it something to do with our old nickname?
I guess it didn't really matter why they didn't want us but they didn't and we had to find a home. I was explaining why we took the Big Sky offer.
I think we should be in the Summit/MVFC if they would take us but I haven't heard that is an option. is it?
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3 hours ago, Herd said:
They won't add you unless you ask to be added. They won't offer you unless you ask for an offer. That ball is in your court.
we asked for 4-5 years and were told to pound sand. I am sure there are still discussions but we are in the Big Sky because the Summit/MVFC said no to UND over and over and over again.
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8 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
So are you advocating sandbagging over multitasking? Interesting choice.
That's an interesting take. Where is the multi-tasking? My problem is that he didn't multi-task and make himself available. I am advocating being accessible when you drop a bombshell like he just did. There's no way that flies in a well run corporation, why in academia?
When is the bus trip back in GF? Tomorrow or the next day?
if he couldn't wait for that he should have have found a cell phone or some way to be available to answer questions (multi-task). I believe there is cell phone coverage in western ND by now.
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29 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
The ND bus tour is done every year and is scheduled months in advance. The $1.4 million shortfall didn't happen on Kennedy's watch. Kennedy should be given more than a month to assess the abilities of his AD. Tom needs to pump his brakes.
I doubt there was anything pressing that forced Kennedy to release this today. Why couldn't he have waited a day or two until he was back in town to address the plan in person? That is what I would expect from a leader.
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16 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
"This is the worst looking hat I ever saw........buy a hat like this bet you get a free bowl of soup!"
I've been more open to accepting the new logo but that's a bad hat.
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My daughter calls GF the 'Land of No Acceleration'
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Everybody on here misses the Sioux name and logo and wishes we still had them. We don't have them and they aren't coming back.
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7 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:
If we are in need of games against NDSU SDSU and USD we should join the MVFC and the Summit. Both make more sense for us, a lot more.
Is that an option? It hasn't been in the past.
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1 hour ago, bison73 said:
I think the quote was-- we wouldnt be going to GF on there watch. which was after BF demanded every year and then started negotiating through the media. Fact is if he would have taken the first deal it would have been done. BF handcuffed you guys.
The statement from Taylor to my NDSU guy was that NDSU wouldn't schedule UND in football as long as Taylor and Chapman were at SU. Nothing about GF, Fargo or any other location.
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3 hours ago, bison73 said:
He didnt ask. He Demanded. If he wouldnt have done that the game would have been played long before it did.
From a good source close to the situation at NDSU - Taylor and Chapman stated they would not play UND in football under their watch regardless of the situation. Demanded, asked, every year, every other year....... none of it mattered when those two were in charge.
They only reason they are playing at all is that Taylor changed the terms one last time (reduced the payout) and threw out one more offer that he figured would be unacceptable to UND on his way out the door. It was only done for spite. To his surprise Bubba told Faison to take it.
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17 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
You misunderstand their standing policy I believe. As seen by their scheduling history, they are more than willing to go on the road and schedule home and homes with teams they consider to be the "who's who" of the FCS for non-conference. Montana, Georgia Southern, Eastern Washington, Delaware has been down recently, but is a historical powerhouse at this level. That being said, there have been exceptions to that rule over the years that speak closer to the point you are making, Weber St. being the only one that comes to mind for me. Scheduling UND has a lot of baggage that goes along with it that has been hashed and rehashed and then beaten to a bloody pulp that we don't need to get into, but you and I both know that a home and home contract with UND doesn't end once it's fulfilled like the rest of those contracts do. Scheduling a home and home with UND carries with it a weight of pushing toward a yearly game, that is what NDSU is trying to avoid so they have the freedom of scheduling that they currently have to schedule some of these (no disrespect is intended) more "name brand" FCS teams when the opportunities arise.
Call BS on the above if you like, but that is the perspective on the situation that NDSU and it's fans currently have.
Calling BS as you suggested and hypocrisy.
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6 minutes ago, Herd said:
The truth is they thought they were putting right policy actions in place, but they were wrong and corrected it within 3 days. No committees, polls or taxpayer dollars affected. What he knew or didn't know should not be if consequence, unless you are on a witch hunt. Thanks God they don't goto the texts for the leaders in corporate America on a daily basis, when poor initial decision are made and corrected. Pretty stupid situation.
What was found was a total lack of integrity by Bresciani. The media policy was just the trigger.
He was caught lying and throwing a subordinate under the bus to save his own arse. Not the kind of person that most people would want running their school or company.
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54 minutes ago, bison73 said:
I cant pass judgement on Dick as he was at SU for a short time. But from what I heard he wasnt liked and he also had made some comments that a president shouldnt have made.
Bresciani has recently made some statements that a president shouldn't make either. That's what got him in all this trouble.
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1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said:
Schloss did a pretty good writeup on assistant coach Kevin Maurice.
I have met Kevin a few times at football alumni events. He was extremely welcoming and personable from the first minute I talked to him. UND is in good hands as long as he is on the staff.
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32 minutes ago, southpaw said:
Again with him - no credibility and no ownership of his actions. Always somebody else's fault.
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I'm not sure the Big Sky is sustainable from a cost standpoint. I also like the idea of playing our traditional rivals in conference play. NDSU, USD, SDSU would bring a lot more interest and excitement than anybody in the Big Sky.
I know there are dogs in the MVFC/Summit but there are just as many in the Big Sky and they are missing the midwest teams that we grew up hating and competing against. It will be a long time, if ever, before we build the same intense rivalries with the Big Sky teams. I also like the idea of being able to drive to away games against those teams plus UNI.