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Is that the same Marcus Williams that SU faithful tried to convince us would be drafeted in Rd 2?

How do you know he didn't take it at that time? Schlossman said he didn't have time to research that 2 year time period because he was afraid of getting scooped. BF's message to GT was regarding how to release the info to the press and about game start times. It looks to me like he thought they had a verbal agreement in place.

I don't believe in there was 2 years in between communications. Schlossman said they just didn't have time to track down the communication between those dates because they were worried about being scooped on the story. I would guess that there was plenty of talking in that time but BF won't tell everybody about it because he doesn't want to poison the water regargless of the SU theory that he negotiates through the media. Schlossman also said that it was all open records requests and not coming from BF.

pretty selective regarding what bothers them in fargo. If you win they can overlook criminal activities.

110 games is a fairly large sample size too. UND leads the series 62-45 with three ties. To think we won't be back is foolish.

Somebody still gives a rip.

I have never posted on Bisonville and never will. Why don't you prove how little you care about UND and how you have moved on by moving on and going away for good. Put your money (keyboard) where your mouth is.

if you don't give a rip why are you on this site discussing it? I truly don't give a rip about MLS soccer so I have never been on one of their fan sites or bothered to comment on it. Be honest with yourself.

i don't really care if we play but this^^^^^^^ is driving me nuts.

As my father-in-law used to tell me - the wheel is round. Things change and you are not always at the top or the bottom. The NDSU fans of the 1980's thought they would dominate UND forever but I believe we won 10 of the last 13 we played. Similar situation today where SU fans can't imagine UND ever being on equal footing with them. GT does hold the cards in this situation and he is rubbing it in BF's and UND's face because he can. You can be sure it will bite him or NDSU in the ass someday when things change and he needs a game or a vote for something from UND. NDSU remembers back to 2003 quite well but I am sure we will have long memories too.

never heard anybody from UND use that term. Strictly an NDSU term so move on already and go back to bisonville.

What makes you think GT would have agreed to that and not changed his story? He seems good at that.

Per Sioux Football Insider. @SiouxFootball: We now know why #UND AD Brian Faison didn't take the one-game offer. It was changed yet again. Went from $175K for two games to $125K for 1.

I agree on the acedemic part. Gene still has a chapped butt because we didn't play him during SU's transition. He told a Fargo sportswriter friend of mine in the past that there will be no football game while he is there. That's fine with me but I wish he would own it and stop pretending he is trying to make something work. If he really wanted it to work we would be playing and you wouldn't be H&H with Weber St. UND will not bow down to him and take a one time game in Fargo and he knows it. That is why he make the offer.

USA Today did an analysis of college sports about a year ago. They don't break down where the subsidies come from except to say they are from student fees and school/state support and they report that only 23 out of 228 D1 sports programs are self sufficient. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2013/05/07/ncaa-finances-subsidies/2142443/ For 2012 the numbers for NDSU $16.8 million in expenses funded in part by $7.2 million in subsidies - 43%. For 2012 UND had $20 million in expenses and $9.2 million in subsidies - 48%.

i will turn that around on you. if you say money is the main factor in the decision - why won't GT take the home and home with UND? Much better financially for him than a home and home with Weber St. And a guaranteed win if you listen to SU fans.

i knew that and meant $190k per game. Doesn't change my point.

The $190k offer with both games in Fargo was just an attempt to get Faison to grovel at GT's feet. GT either gets that from UND or is able to pretend he tried even though he knew he would be told to F off. What an a$$. Oh - and please tell me again how they can't get enough games because teams are afraid of him. The parents of current players are still spouting that bs.

If NDSU fan base was totally ambivalent about the game and UND in general - why are so many of you on here? Go away already and prove to everybody you don't care.

So hold a press conf and do the same but quit hiding behind grandma's skirt and pretending to want to make something work.

He lived in the TC at that time and didn't cross paths with Roger. OK then. There is a big difference between what Roger did - playing a DI AA team at that time would have hurt our playoff chances even with a win, and agreeing in emails to schedule two games home and home and then back out while changing the rules again. Roger was honest in his decision making and owned up to why he was doing it. Gene needs to grow a pair and do the same. It is a matter of character.

My brother went to MSU and is not a fan of either team but lives in Fargo. He lit up Gene a couple of years ago at a fundraiser for not playing UND. Gene got mad and asked him why he cared. My brother told him that as a taxpayer he was paying the additional cost to bring in teams for home games and to travel to places like Weber St. and Montana when playing UND would cost essentially nothing.

What trustworthy business partner makes an offer and then pulls it once the other side agrees to their terms. There was no whining from Faison here. These emails were obtained by the Herald through and open records request.

Own up to the fact that you aren't going to play UND because you are still mad at them and don't agree to a set of games and then change the rules after the other side agrees to your terms. Man up and own who you are and quit pretending. I really don't care if we ever play again.

This just shows a lack of character but we shouldn't be surprised. Gene told a Fargo reporter years ago that SU wouldn't play UND as long as he and/or Chappy were around. Fargo reporter didn't dare report it for fear of being banned from access to SU athletics. If you won't play that is fine but own up to it and don't hide behind disingenuous negotions while you stall and then pull out of the verbal agreement you made.