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It was a KVLY (Valley News Live-- Fargo, N.D.) report that was re-posted on the MSNBC site. KVLY is an affiliate of MSNBC's parent station.

The media excerpt you quote is cited as coming from KVLY in Fargo, which means it was probably compiled by a freshly-minted Moorhead State journalism grad whose knowledge of the nickname issue probably derived from a 30-second study of one paragraph on Wikipedia before filing the report. It shouldn't be that way; but believe me, that's usually the extent of media research these days. Especially, by the young punks that our small market television stations attract around here. So, I'm fairly confident that the lesson of Hanlon's Razor applies here, which is "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." I know it makes for a more interesting message board if we could continue to allege that conspiratorial or clandestine forces were at work here, but sorry to be a buzz kill, it's more likely to be the result of media ignorance.

Well said. I too want the nickname and logo to stay FOREVER. I too am as anti-PC as you can be. And I am very intrigued and excited by what is taking place in Bismarck, but I have that luxury as an arm-chair critic. BUT for those who bear the burden of resolving this issue, sometimes the best course of action is not the most popular one.

Don't disagree. Just hate to see your credibility diminished by typos and misspellings. If we have such strong feelings against individuals, we should at least know how to spell the their names.

Did they ever get your vote?

Very good perspective, Jim. Thanks!

Another way to look at this might be to choose another situation altogether in which the NCAA has clear rules or restrictions against something, such as taking money, bribes or favors from basically anyone, but especially team boosters ...... or maybe the NCAA rules on maximum number of scholarships allowed ... or any one of a thousand other rules that the NCAA has to regulate athletes, coaches and boosters. If the North Dakota Legislature passed a law saying that its NCAA-participating universities were exempt from any of these NCCA rules or bylaws, would the NCAA simply make an exception for those schools because they are simply following state law?

It would go through the same process, but my guess would be that it would receive a hefty "do not pass" recommendation at committee.

So, you're saying there's a chance.

We "Forkers" and former "Forkers" weren't necessarily in love with the food or the service, though, I think you are right that you must have hit it at a bad time or a low point in its history....what we "Forkers" were in love with was the nostalgia of the place and the great memories spent with friends at the bar and in the dining booths. It was truly a great place that transcended the flaws you cite through its history, character and ambiance.

Better get my passport updated, I am as good as there!

I honestly don't know. I vaguely recall hearing that years ago. Just seems odd that that open lot has sat vacant for so long. No development of any kind what so ever. It would be interesting to know if it is zoned as University Development, or Industrial or residential.

Isn't their a huge city water tank under that open lot to the east? I thought I remember that being reported years ago as part of news articles about building a new Water Treatment plant in Grand Forks. The point being: how much development could take place on that land, and what kind of development could take place, if there is a water tank underneath? Again, I don't know if that is the case. Someone from the Public Works might know.

Go on his blog and use his link to vote for Matt Frattin... and then tell him you did so in the comment section. I did.

They did beat the Sioux last year head-to-head. But you are correct, their strength of schedule is rather lacking. I don't think rankings mean much for any team at any time of the year. I do think this year's Sioux could beat the Bulldogs 8 out of 10 times, at least, but, that said, I wouldn't get caught looking past Yale in a one-and-done scenario.

I think the Bob will at least give us a game of it tonight. I was at the game Friday and it didn't look like they were outclassed as much as it was a complete and total dominating effort by the Sioux (kinda how we buzz against the Gophs) and a lack of familiarity with the physicality of WCHA hockey and how to deal with it on the part of the Colonials. I saw flashes of talent from the Colonials. We'll see what happens tonight, but It won't be as easy IMHO. That said ....Go Sioux!

There is a law against one of those, however -- driving over the speed limit. Still, I am not crazy about the law. Too many logical inconsistencies. i.e. It's illegal to text while driving, but not to put on make up while driving, eat or drink beverages while driving, tune the radio while driving, talk on a phone while driving, converse with a passenger while driving... etc., etc., etc. You can't legislate out stupidity or legislate in common sense. But I guess we will keep trying all in the name of feeling better about ourselves without actually doing anything to actually make things better.

Some more historical background and an image here!

Very well thought-out post. I agree.

^ ^ ^ I love it. Classic reply. Seriously, though, thanks for making it a little easier to read. It took 10 minutes to uncross my eyes halfway through that chunk of text. I bet more people will actually attempt to read it now instead of gloss over it and move onto the next post.

Maybe former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach will want to re-enter coaching at the FCS level. Wonder what kinds of budget UND could muster for a quality established head coach instead of promoting from within or going with an up-and-coming OC or DC from another school. We figured out a way to make Dean Blais happy for a while a few years ago, can't we do it in football, too? Just pondering.

I tend not to be so reactionary.... but in this case, I am tending to agree. President Kelley is there in Missoula. If I were him, I would pull a Jerry Jones-Wade Phillips move and have Mussman fly home on the UND jet and basically tell him he's gone.

20-17 Griz.