...and it is a win now or the fans go ballistic situation at UND. Not that it was an either/or situation with Hain, Senden or Spicer, but how many people complaining would say, oh it's o.k. that Spicer made a couple bad mistakes and/or didn't show up for a tournament game in which we lost. No, those people would be all over Berry because we lost a tournament game. Spicer moved on, and we will too.