Goon Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 This is interesting. I don't know if I would like to go to the West Regional in Ann Arbor though. PROVIDENCE East Regional 1. Boston College 2. New Hampshire 3. Ferris State 4. Denver WORCESTER Northeast Regional 1. Maine 2. Cornell 3. Boston University 4. Mercyhurst ANN ARBOR Midwest Regional 1. North Dakota 2. Michigan 3. MSU, Mankato 4. Michigan State MINNEAPOLIS West Regional 1. Colorado College 2. Minnesota 3. Ohio State 4. Ala.-Huntsvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprig Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 The INCH projections don't fit the current pairwise. But, since it's unknown what the committee will do with sending teams across the country, who knows. The Sioux are in a position right now where going east appears to be the strongest possiblility. Believe INCH is assuming that the NCAA will avoid making teams travel long distances, once again. Plus, everything is turned upside down anyway if the league winners (in the weak conferences) don't win the post season conference playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 13, 2003 Author Share Posted February 13, 2003 Seems a little premature, there are like 8 to 10 games left in the season, league championships and the conference championships, lots of room for some major upsets and teams taking a turn for the worst... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 With the first-round byes going out the window, there becomes a huge difference between finishing #1 or #2 in the pairwise, and presumably facing the MAAC or CHA winner ... and finishing #3 or #4 .... In the inch ratings, CC draws Huntsville .... and UND gets Michigan State. Only a little difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 13, 2003 Author Share Posted February 13, 2003 With the first-round byes going out the window, there becomes a huge difference between finishing #1 or #2 in the pairwise, and presumably facing the MAAC or CHA winner ... and finishing #3 or #4 .... In the inch ratings, CC draws Huntsville .... and UND gets Michigan State. Only a little difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Just out of curiousity, why don't teams play the regionals at the site that is in their region? Why wouldn't UND play in Minneapolis (St. Paul, I believe) and OSU play in Ann Arbor?? Why do teams get moved around like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 They try to balance the power across the regions. They do the same thing in hoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverman Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Sic,Good point however one has to wonder how the Gulf War II is going to play in a factor. Travel could be a sticky point with the NC$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 The NCAA announced the seeding plan for the expanded hockey tournament: In setting up the tournament, the committee begins with a list of priorities to ensure a successful tournament on all fronts including competitive equity, financial success and likelihood of playoff-type atmosphere at each regional site. For the model, the following is a basic set of priorities: a.   The top four teams as ranked by the committee are the four No. 1 seeds and will be placed in the bracket so that if all four teams advance to the Men's Frozen Four, the No. 1 seed will play the No. 4 seed and the No. 2 seed will play the No. 3 seed in the semifinals. b.   Host institutions that qualify will be placed at home. c.   No. 1 seeds are placed as close to home as possible in order of their ranking 1-4. d.   Conference matchups in first round are avoided. e.   Once the six automatic qualifiers and ten at-large teams are selected, the next step is to develop four groups from the committee's ranking of 1-16. The top four teams are the No. 1 seeds. The next four are targeted as No. 2 seeds. The next four are No. 3 seeds and the last four are No. 4 seeds. f.   The next process is to place the teams in the bracket. g.   Step one is to place the No. 1 seeds since the top priority is to have the top four teams as ranked by the committee as the No. 1 seeds regardless of region. h.   Step two is to place the home teams. i.   Step three is to place the No. 1 seeds as close to their campus as possible. j.   Step four is to fill in the bracket so that first-round conference matchups are avoided. The biggest change seems to be that they're no longer going to swap seeds, but simply rotate identically seeded teams between regions to meet their goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted March 12, 2003 Author Share Posted March 12, 2003 Here is the latest. Althought this web page has little or no credibility, I think it would be fun to watch UND beat UofM in the Region final. It would be a hoot. I don't think North Dakota would have much trouble with Ferris State setting up the game... PROVIDENCE East Regional 1. New Hampshire 2. Boston College 3. MSU, Mankato 4. Mercyhurst WORCESTER Northeast Regional 1. Cornell 2. Boston University 3. Ohio State 4. St. Cloud State ANN ARBOR Midwest Regional 1. Colorado College 2. Michigan 3. Maine 4. Ala.-Huntsville MINNEAPOLIS West Regional 1. Minnesota 2. Ferris State 3. North Dakota 4. Harvard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmidtdoggydog Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 There is a lot of hockey to be played, however, if the season ended today and according to USCHO the brackets would likely be: West Regional: Colorado College vs. Mercyhurst Minnesota vs. St. Cloud Midwest Regional: New Hampshire vs. Ohio State Maine vs. Michigan East Regional: Cornell vs. Alabama-Huntsville Boston College vs. North Dakota Northeast Regional: Boston University vs. Harvard Ferris State vs. Minnesota State which seems a tad more likely than the INCH setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 I love the INCH website. Their "Found on a Cocktail Napkin" is often pretty clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 There is a lot of hockey to be played, however, if the season ended today and according to USCHO the brackets would likely be: West Regional: Colorado College vs. Mercyhurst Minnesota vs. St. Cloud Midwest Regional: New Hampshire vs. Ohio State Maine vs. Michigan East Regional: Cornell vs. Alabama-Huntsville Boston College vs. North Dakota Northeast Regional: Boston University vs. Harvard Ferris State vs. Minnesota State which seems a tad more likely than the INCH setup. I find it very hard to believe that they would put 3 WCHA teams in the same regional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 West Regional: Colorado College vs. Mercyhurst Minnesota vs. St. Cloud This won't happen. They will at the very least switch Ohio State and St. Cloud. There is no way they are putting 3 WCHA teams in. Besides, if the Gophers get into the final of the Final Five, they will be granted a #1 seed in the West, thereby moving CC to the Midwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmidtdoggydog Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 This won't happen. They will at the very least switch Ohio State and St. Cloud. There is no way they are putting 3 WCHA teams in. Besides, if the Gophers get into the final of the Final Five, they will be granted a #1 seed in the West, thereby moving CC to the Midwest. Wrong. As it stands now Minnesota is #5 in the power rankings, which means a #2 seed, not a #1. Nathan, whether Minnesota wins the Final Five or not may be irrelevant. If they are the top 4 in the power rankings at the time the selections are made, they will get a #1 seed, if they are 5 or below they won't. But, Minnesota stays home regardless of their seed. If they are a 2 seed, CC still goes to the closest regional, which would be the West in Minny. If Minnesota gets a 1 seed, CC will then go to Michigan. Read USCHO Bracketology for the explanation especially as it relates to UND and St. Cloud. Regardless, the season doesn't end anytime soon, at least we hope, so there is really no sense in getting ahead of ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Wrong. As it stands now Minnesota is #5 in the power rankings, which means a #2 seed, not a #1. Nathan, whether Minnesota wins the Final Five or not may be irrelevant. If they are the top 4 in the power rankings at the time the selections are made, they will get a #1 seed, if they are 5 or below they won't. But, Minnesota stays home regardless of their seed. If they are a 2 seed, CC still goes to the closest regional, which would be the West in Minny. If Minnesota gets a 1 seed, CC will then go to Michigan. Read USCHO Bracketology for the explanation especially as it relates to UND and St. Cloud. Regardless, the season doesn't end anytime soon, at least we hope, so there is really no sense in getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah, but part of the bracket procedure is avoiding conference rivals too early in the tournament. I don't think there is a rule that says CC HAS to go to Minnesota for the regional is there??? I could see them going to Ann Arbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 This whole tournament set-up is pure b.s. Does Minnesota care where they end up, whether it be a #4 seed in a region or #1? Doesn't matter, they're going to be playing in front of 9,000 of their own fans and everyone will scream "what a monumental upset!" when they knock of Colorado College. Puhlease. The reward for being a #1 seed shouldn't be going to a huge rival's own building. I don't care when the region sites were selected, this is a set-up just like last year to make sure Michigan, Minnesota, and a couple of HE schools make the big dance. Look at Denver last season. The reward for being the #1 seed in the WCHA is to play the Gophers at Xcel Energy Center. They win the game, then get to go on the road to play Michigan at Yost Arena. And people were still stunned that this team didn't get to the Frozen Four? Minnesota will be back in the Frozen Four again this year, not so much because of their talent, but moreso because people underestimate home ice advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Wrong. As it stands now Minnesota is #5 in the power rankings, which means a #2 seed, not a #1. Nathan, whether Minnesota wins the Final Five or not may be irrelevant. If they are the top 4 in the power rankings at the time the selections are made, they will get a #1 seed, if they are 5 or below they won't. But, Minnesota stays home regardless of their seed. If they are a 2 seed, CC still goes to the closest regional, which would be the West in Minny. If Minnesota gets a 1 seed, CC will then go to Michigan. Read USCHO Bracketology for the explanation especially as it relates to UND and St. Cloud. Regardless, the season doesn't end anytime soon, at least we hope, so there is really no sense in getting ahead of ourselves. Like I said, if the Gophers go to the championship game, whether they win or not, the PWR's will flip with BU and possibly Cornell and UNH, thereby placing them into the top 4. Of course, it would really help the Gopher cause if Wisconsin could knock off Mankato and stay as a TUC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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