Prospective Recruits

[atxsioux]

25 minutes ago, Scratch said:

I used to think the same, but the past couple years listening to the podcast kinda changed my mind to think he is actually oblivious to problems. The way he scoffed at the suggestion of firing berry and ridiculed the masses who held that opinion as clueless twitter morons seemed genuine when he talked about it. Then he invented the "first round picks ensure teams wont win the natty" narrative once it became impossible to deny that Berry hadn't brought in a single talented player his first 4ish years as head coach. That seems beyond toeing the line to me, but I am admittedly jaded about Schloss so idk.

To add to the Dupont gossip, my cousins in BC (early twenties, best played 2 years in WHL) tell me the rumor is he's very likely to play college and UND and DU are the frontrunners. Also say kids out west still think of UND when they think of college hockey but Denver becoming more popular quickly, for obvious reasons. I was surprised that they said no one really talks about BU or BC still. I agree with the guy who mentioned the concerns about Verhoeff also being right shot D. Hopefully UND promises Dupont 1st PP and 28 mins a night from day one because based strictly by output compared to his same-age peers Dupont is arguably a better prospect than Crosby and McDavid. 

Good interview on Jeff Marek's pod with Dupont (starts at 38 minute mark). Really mature kid for his age it seems. (Very safe to say that he watches college hockey in his spare time - one of his favorite D-Men to watch was Buium)

 

 

[nascar99]

1 hour ago, beastandco said:

I listened to Drew Shore’s podcast with Bryn Chyzyk as a guest. Bryn stated that UND has a roster spot open and a lot of the top prospects are waiting until after the draft to make their decisions. I believe it was recorded sometime early June before Gordon’s decommitment because he said “one roster spot open.”

I know this was talked about a lot but hearing it from him confirms that UND will probably be quiet until after the draft. He must have some traction on a player or two because it is a gamble to wait this late when players are committing left and right it seems like.
 

You have a link to Drew Shore’s podcast with Chyzyk? Would be interested in listening to it when I have time

[atxsioux]

13 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

You have a link to Drew Shore’s podcast with Chyzyk? Would be interested in listening to it when I have time

Listening to it as we speak so I can share haha

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

48 minutes ago, atxsioux said:

Listening to it as we speak so I can share haha

 

Chuckled at Bryn holding out for a discount code on Gage's moving company. Well done on both ends of this discussion.

[nascar99]

Not sure if Wheeler's polling is just from CHLers (or if it also includes European junior players who haven't signed pro yet), but very interesting to note. It's also possible that some of the guys not super interested in going NCAA could be steered in that direction by the NHL teams who drafted them, provided they've completed the course load credits necessary.

 

[beastandco]

7 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

Not sure if Wheeler's polling is just from CHLers (or if it also includes European junior players who haven't signed pro yet), but very interesting to note. It's also possible that some of the guys not super interested in going NCAA could be steered in that direction by the NHL teams who drafted, provided they've completed the course load credits necessary.

 

It looks like the poll was conducted throughout the season, I think that is worth noting. The 34% that said no could and likely does include players that are ineligible to play college because they play in European pro leagues. Out of the top 50 prospects, I would guess that there is about 10 players that will commit for college next year that are currently uncommitted. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was much more or less.

[Goon]

On 6/18/2025 at 6:51 PM, nascar99 said:

From the DM conversations I've had with Schloss, he knows more than he gives on about certain problems and as we've mentioned before, he has to toe the line to avoid losing scoops or even worse, getting canned.

Brad isn't getting canned. 

[nodak651]

New pod with Bryn Chyzyk.  Hockey Think Tank Podcast

https://lnns.co/LbPX0GqZvnE

College Recruiting, Having a High Compete Level, & The Importance of Culture & Character off the Ice With Guest Bryn Chyzyk, University of North Dakota GM - EP 370

[brianvf]

 

[atxsioux]

2 hours ago, nascar99 said:

Not sure if Wheeler's polling is just from CHLers (or if it also includes European junior players who haven't signed pro yet), but very interesting to note. It's also possible that some of the guys not super interested in going NCAA could be steered in that direction by the NHL teams who drafted them, provided they've completed the course load credits necessary.

 

If you go strictly off of wheelers top 50 list it works out to below

• 38% not committed to NCAAs yet (CHL players)
• 18% not committed to NCAAs yet (Overseas players)
• 44% playing NCAA / committed to NCAA school (this part could be way off hah, I'm assuming he didn't ask this to players already committed or playing?)

So very quick math but 20% (or 10 players) considering the NCAA have yet to commit (which most of us are assuming at this point will be after the draft)

And holy if it does end up being close to that 20% thats alot of players committing - could be recruiting chaos after the draft.

[beastandco]

6 minutes ago, atxsioux said:

If you go strictly off of wheelers top 50 list it works out to below

• 38% not committed to NCAAs yet (CHL players)
• 18% not committed to NCAAs yet (Overseas players)
• 44% playing NCAA / committed to NCAA school (this part could be way off hah, I'm assuming he didn't ask this to players already committed or playing?)

So very quick math but 20% (or 10 players) considering the NCAA have yet to commit (which most of us are assuming at this point will be after the draft)

And holy if it does end up being close to that 20% thats alot of players committing - could be recruiting chaos after the draft.

It could be chaos. I think a lot of teams are competing for 5-10 guys. Most blue bloods have one or two spots open. I don’t think every team will get one or two high end guys. They just do not want to fill their roster and throw away their lottery ticket. I do think we see a wave of commitments in the next few weeks. 

[nascar99]

21 minutes ago, beastandco said:

It could be chaos. I think a lot of teams are competing for 5-10 guys. Most blue bloods have one or two spots open. I don’t think every team will get one or two high end guys. They just do not want to fill their roster and throw away their lottery ticket. I do think we see a wave of commitments in the next few weeks. 

Seems like every top 10 team has 1-2 flexible spots where they can defer a current committed recruit back to junior if they land a high end big fish from the CHL or elsewhere. Sure, you risk losing a guy via decommitment, but if you can immediately add high end talent, you do it.

[Und Princess]

3 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

Seems like every top 10 teams has 1-2 flexible spots where they can defer a current committed recruit back to junior if they land a high end big fish from the CHL or elsewhere. Sure, you risk losing a guy via decommitment, but if you can immediately add high end talent, you do it.

I'm sure it's always a tough decision for the school and recruit.

[beastandco]

8 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

Seems like every top 10 teams has 1-2 flexible spots where they can defer a current committed recruit back to junior if they land a high end big fish from the CHL or elsewhere. Sure, you risk losing a guy via decommitment, but if you can immediately add high end talent, you do it.

Decommitments are bound to happen anyways. In UND’s case, I don’t think there is a recruit quite ready to make the jump to college hockey that isn’t already coming in. Simpson will likely go in the 3rd/4th round but is very raw. Schultz will go late and would really benefit from a year or two in juniors. It doesn’t make sense for either of those guys to come in this year.

Outside of McKenna, I feel like there is very little buzz about anyone else coming over from the CHL. As much as I want a Kindel, Cootes, or Schmidt, there is no indication that NCAA is on their radar.

[nascar99]

5 minutes ago, beastandco said:

Decommitments are bound to happen anyways. In UND’s case, I don’t think there is a recruit quite ready to make the jump to college hockey that isn’t already coming in. Simpson will likely go in the 3rd/4th round but is very raw. Schultz will go late and would really benefit from a year or two in junior. It doesn’t make sense for either of those guys to come in this year.

Outside of McKenna, I feel like there is very little buzz about anyone else coming over from the CHL. As much as I want a Kindel, Cootes, or Schmidt, there is no indication that NCAA is on their radar.

Schultz already spent a year in junior and probably needs another year there. Schultz could easily decommit if he wants to be in the NCAA this fall and North Dakota wants to defer him again.

Martone has been rumored in past months (Penn State, Michigan State, Michigan were tied to him in those rumors). Literally every CHLer other than maybe Misa should spend a year plus in the NCAA instead of stat padding in junior again or being thrown to the wolves in the NHL when they're not ready. But of course, as Schloss said, the course credits may not have been completed to make them eligible, so it would be moot there.

[beastandco]

27 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

Schultz already spent a year in junior and probably needs another year there. Schultz could easily decommit if he wants to be in the NCAA this fall and North Dakota wants to defer him again.

Martone has been rumored in past months (Penn State, Michigan State, Michigan were tied to him in those rumors). Literally every CHLer other than maybe Misa should spend a year plus in the NCAA instead of stat padding in junior again or being thrown to the wolves in the NHL when they're not ready. But of course, as Schloss said, the course credits may not have been completed to make them eligible, so it would be moot there.

I agree. I know Reschny has to do some extra work this summer to become eligible this fall. There are a lot of guys I’m sure that are not eligible and also a lot of guys that will stay loyal to their junior teams. I know hockey Canada isn’t a big fan of college hockey and a lot of these kids want to be on the world juniors team this winter. 
 

I’m expecting Schloss to drop a podcast this week previewing the draft and giving an update on UND’s open spots. He hasn’t said much about the two open spots at forward.

[Siouxdaddy]

On 6/20/2025 at 3:12 PM, Scratch said:

I used to think the same, but the past couple years listening to the podcast kinda changed my mind to think he is actually oblivious to problems. The way he scoffed at the suggestion of firing berry and ridiculed the masses who held that opinion as clueless twitter morons seemed genuine when he talked about it. Then he invented the "first round picks ensure teams wont win the natty" narrative once it became impossible to deny that Berry hadn't brought in a single talented player his first 4ish years as head coach. That seems beyond toeing the line to me, but I am admittedly jaded about Schloss so idk.

To add to the Dupont gossip, my cousins in BC (early twenties, best played 2 years in WHL) tell me the rumor is he's very likely to play college and UND and DU are the frontrunners. Also say kids out west still think of UND when they think of college hockey but Denver becoming more popular quickly, for obvious reasons. I was surprised that they said no one really talks about BU or BC still. I agree with the guy who mentioned the concerns about Verhoeff also being right shot D. Hopefully UND promises Dupont 1st PP and 28 mins a night from day one because based strictly by output compared to his same-age peers Dupont is arguably a better prospect than Crosby and McDavid. 

Trust me, Schloss isn’t oblivious. He just has his opinions. He’s not going state everything about the program to the public. It’s bad journalism and he has been doing this for a long time. He’s not going to risk burning any bridges 

[Blackheart]

2 hours ago, Siouxdaddy said:

Trust me, Schloss isn’t oblivious. He just has his opinions. He’s not going state everything about the program to the public. It’s bad journalism and he has been doing this for a long time. He’s not going to risk burning any bridges 

Enjoy his stuff but I don't care if I ever hear about the Women's program again.  Did you know UND had a Women's hockey team at one time?

[Und Princess]

Just now, Blackheart said:

Enjoy his stuff but I don't care if I ever hear about the Women's program again.  Did you know UND had a Women's hockey team at one time?

I did

[atxsioux]

3 hours ago, beastandco said:

I agree. I know Reschny has to do some extra work this summer to become eligible this fall. There are a lot of guys I’m sure that are not eligible and also a lot of guys that will stay loyal to their junior teams. I know hockey Canada isn’t a big fan of college hockey and a lot of these kids want to be on the world juniors team this winter. 
 

I’m expecting Schloss to drop a podcast this week previewing the draft and giving an update on UND’s open spots. He hasn’t said much about the two open spots at forward.

Think hockey Canada has their hand forced by a few factors and will have to abandon that thinking for WJC selection. Their best player for upcoming WJC will very likely be playing NCAA + they've lost in the quarters 2 years in a row. Politics go out the window when you need to put a winning team on the ice to get your arse out of the jackpot hahah.

[atxsioux]

4 hours ago, beastandco said:

Decommitments are bound to happen anyways. In UND’s case, I don’t think there is a recruit quite ready to make the jump to college hockey that isn’t already coming in. Simpson will likely go in the 3rd/4th round but is very raw. Schultz will go late and would really benefit from a year or two in juniors. It doesn’t make sense for either of those guys to come in this year.

Outside of McKenna, I feel like there is very little buzz about anyone else coming over from the CHL. As much as I want a Kindel, Cootes, or Schmidt, there is no indication that NCAA is on their radar.

I think some of the lack of buzz could be due to players, agents, and teams are wanting to keep the NCAA mentions to a minimum out of respect to help keep the heat off players. Once they are drafted it does help spin the narrative to say "this is what my NHL team thinks is best for me". (also players could be leaning on the college side but do want that final confirmation from the team that drafts them - that's what Chris Peters with flo hockey had heard at the combine as well) If Bryn and team had heard these players were not able to come to college they would've already went after some older CHL/USHL players / maybe brought in 1 future commit that they thought was most ready. Players will be in forks in July for summer skates so it would be odd for Bryn and Co to be slow playing that announcement for players that could've already announced.

[dustnyou]

1 hour ago, Blackheart said:

Enjoy his stuff but I don't care if I ever hear about the Women's program again.  Did you know UND had a Women's hockey team at one time?

100% chance of hearing about it again on his next pod now that Idalski was just named HC of the new PWHL team in Vancouver 

[brianvf]

13 minutes ago, dustnyou said:

100% chance of hearing about it again on his next pod now that Idalski was just named HC of the new PWHL team in Vancouver 

Yes, for sure.

[beastandco]

33 minutes ago, atxsioux said:

I think some of the lack of buzz could be due to players, agents, and teams are wanting to keep the NCAA mentions to a minimum out of respect to help keep the heat off players. Once they are drafted it does help spin the narrative to say "this is what my NHL team thinks is best for me". (also players could be leaning on the college side but do want that final confirmation from the team that drafts them - that's what Chris Peters with flo hockey had heard at the combine as well) If Bryn and team had heard these players were not able to come to college they would've already went after some older CHL/USHL players / maybe brought in 1 future commit that they thought was most ready. Players will be in forks in July for summer skates so it would be odd for Bryn and Co to be slow playing that announcement for players that could've already announced.

A lot of very good points here. I just have a hard time believing that Bryn and Co do not have a good idea who is coming in for the last two spots right now.

[brianvf]

19 minutes ago, beastandco said:

A lot of very good points here. I just have a hard time believing that Bryn and Co do not have a good idea who is coming in for the last two spots right now.

Yeah, I'd bet that they have 4-5 potential targets that they've already been in contact with for a bit of time.
The week after the draft should see quite a few NCAA teams finalize their rosters I would guess.