dagies Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Both my kids could spell Minnesota by the age of 2-1/2 - probably due to me taking them to a couple of UND-MN games when they were young. They must be kind of old. You haven't scored THAT much against us recently. (unless it was last March. ) (edit: I guess I should have read the next post) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Umm.. students have been saying "thats debatable" at the REA as long as i have been at UND (4th hockey season) I guess I haven't noticed it...there must not be that many that do it. Is this chant common among other teams' fans as well? I assumed it was a just a Gopher thing...where at least half the arena yells it. Unless it's common (like "sieve" and the beer song), UND students should stop doing it. There's nothing worse than copying a Gopher cheer and doing it poorly in the process. Well, I suppose actually losing to the Gophers is worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I don't believe it is unique to the gophers. I.e. I don't think they started it. Can't remember where but I heard it somewhere else before I heard it at Mariucci. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyeagle Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 dagies - My guess is UW was doing the debatable chant before we were and Cornell before they were. Either way it's kinda lame. If you want to see something cool you should see the UW student section at football games do the chicken dance when the band plays the song. Pretty cool. My kids are 9 & 6 - and being brought up as Gopher fans and, more importantly, hockey fans. They may continue being Gopher fans as they get older but they will appreciate good hockey when they see it, no matter who is playing. If you're suffering from withdrawl follow the link to hear the Rouser, MN March (written by J. Philip Sousa BTW), and the balance of the shool song library. http://www.music.umn.edu/marchingband/media/schlsongs/ (I know - zaero chance this wil happen. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forecheck Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Greyeagle, keep that garbage out of here, please. And to think, I used to have respect for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootdogger Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Umm.. students have been saying "thats debatable" at the REA as long as i have been at UND (4th hockey season) We were doing "that's debatable" and/or "and they STILL suck" in High School back in the mid-80s in Bismarck. We sure as hell weren't creative enough to think of it on our own...so I'm guessing we picked it up from older siblings who attended UND games and said: "If you want to be cool, try this cheer." They were also the ones who convinced us it would be a great idea to smuggle dead, frozen rabbits into Schaumberg Arena (inside trombone cases--ever see a frozen rabbit? Their legs stick straight out so they're like 2-3 feet long!) to throw on the ice against the Minot Magicians. Ahhh..the good old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I think yelling "You Still Suck" when the opposing team regains full strength is much more UND's style than "That's Debatable" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I think yelling "You Still Suck" when the opposing team regains full strength is much more UND's style than "That's Debatable" I don't like the student's current method of yelling "Who's he, he sucks s___!" First of all, the best chants are those that are simple and easy to yell loudly. The last word makes the chant too cluttered. Secondly, as you get older it is much harder to accept yelling the last word with kids or older adults around you, or even with your own kid in tow. Therefore, I would suggest if the fans dropped the last word and went with the "Who's he, he sucks!" they would get more participation. Me, for instance. Heck, I still yell that at the final five. Just no one else is around me. Secondly, maybe it was the lack of students at the Thanksgiving games this weekend but on Saturday night when I was there the "seive" chant was the lamest thing I have ever heard. I think that baby needs better coordination. Sieve chant is still great, if you can get everybody to do it. Yep, I'm a chant expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 I think yelling "You Still Suck" when the opposing team regains full strength is much more UND's style than "That's Debatable" Oh yeah.. and after the opposing team scores a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 The sieve chant has always sucked because no one besides the students does it. Top that off with the students having absolutely no coordination whatsoever and disaster results. Most people do it way too fast. I myself call this Premature Sievealation. I doubt we would get much participation if we dropped s___ for the "who's he" cheer. We don't get any participation in other cheers, why would this one be any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 the sieve chant used to be good when i was a sophomore, but then my junior year the band would play a drum beat that went along with it. They sped up way too fast and i myself blame this for ruining the sieve chant for future generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forecheck Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Here is a simple solution. Someone in the student section needs to take up a collection and buy a loud, electronic megaphone. Then, he/she can say, "Ok, all together now, Sieve! Sieve! Sieve!" Maybe someone could give him a conductor's wand or something, too. I agree, the sieve chant has always been pathetic. Is it shameful for adults to sieve a goalie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmduf Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 What we need is more goalies like the one from Denver (??what was his name??). He used to help the crowd on the road with their sieve chant by waving his arms and goalie stick.....That was awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommiejo Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 To be honest with you I just hate those damn gophers. Plain & simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 What we need is more goalies like the one from Denver (??what was his name??). He used to help the crowd on the road with their sieve chant by waving his arms and goalie stick.....That was awesome! Are you thinking of Wallinheimo? He was good enough that he didn't care what we thought. He'd always put on a little show (especially at opposing rinks) skating around and shooting at the crowd with his stick, etc... I think he was around 92-95 or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 We were debating whether we could get tp in this weekend to give to Finger. How in the world could we get a megaphone in? And assuming we get it in, how long are we gonna get to keep it before the sectuiry guards decide it is a risk to world safety and it is taken from us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forecheck Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Have faith, diggler, have faith. I've only been patted down one time by security, and that was at the first game. I think I can squish a role of toilet paper in my coat. The only problem we run into is that we're so cheap at my house, that we actually stole 6 months worth of dorm toilet paper when we moved into our place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Is it shameful for adults to sieve a goalie? Hell NO! It's expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Geez, if you guys can't sneak in TP. The Sicatoka is right, though. That has GOT to go in the P-box with Finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Well I'm certainly going to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forecheck Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Oh there will be TP in with Finger. Some nice cheap, scratchy stuff. I usually sit a couple rows right behind the visiting penalty box, so I'll be able to easily maneuver my way to him. The race is on, Diggler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Not to be a party pooper, but i would assume throwing toilet paper into the penalty box would assure a quick escort to the exit doors by security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Well if you are gonna be a party pooper, then tp will definitely be needed. Maybe if we gently handed it to him and gave a thorough explanation to the security guards it'd be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Maybe you could also give Finger some instructions on how to get out of the penalty box. I'm thinking of a simple diagram with a red "You are here" X, an arrow pointing at the penalty box gate and a sentence or two on how to operate the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Maybe you could also give Finger some instructions on how to get out of the penalty box. I'm thinking of a simple diagram with a red "You are here" X, an arrow pointing at the penalty box gate and a sentence or two on how to operate the gate. You know that might be pretty good. Just paste up a little "You Are Here" map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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