Frozen4sioux Posted yesterday at 01:47 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:47 AM 55 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: Northern Plains Playoff Update (After 1st Day) 16U: Friday-3:15 PM, SiouxFalls/West Fargo Power 7 TeamND 2 FINAL Saturday 7:15 PM, Sunday 12:30 PM (If Necessary) 26 minutes ago, Ndamukong_sioux said: I edited the 16u score for you. Further Clarification. 1 Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:48 AM 16 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Are sf playas all from sd I assure you the coaches drafting them into juniors or offering them college scholarships do not care if they are or if they are not. Quote
gfhockey Posted yesterday at 01:49 AM Posted yesterday at 01:49 AM Just now, Frozen4sioux said: I assure you the coaches drafting them into juniors or offering them college scholarships do not care if they are or if they are not. Well if it’s team nd vs team sd I’d expect a fair fight Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted yesterday at 01:50 AM Author Posted yesterday at 01:50 AM Just now, gfhockey said: Well if it’s team nd vs team sd I’d expect a fair fight It is not Team ND vs Team SD Team SD is a sperate team that competes at the Tier 2 level. Tier 1 cashes checks from all over. 1 Quote
ChadR Posted yesterday at 02:49 AM Posted yesterday at 02:49 AM Have any ND seniors played junior games after the HS season ended? I would guess Morelli will play games for Minot again. Hasn't played yet. Taven James from Warroad has played for the Tauros. Quote
ChadR Posted yesterday at 02:51 AM Posted yesterday at 02:51 AM 1 minute ago, ChadR said: Have any ND seniors played junior games after the HS season ended? I would guess Morelli will play games for Minot again. Hasn't played yet. Taven James from Warroad has played for the Tauros. Brooks Cullen and Mason West played for Fargo Force tonight. Quote
gfhockey Posted yesterday at 02:55 AM Posted yesterday at 02:55 AM 1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said: It is not Team ND vs Team SD Team SD is a sperate team that competes at the Tier 2 level. Tier 1 cashes checks from all over. So what’s team nd Quote
yzerman19 Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM Team ND is a group of picked birth year teams that play in the central plains district tourney in order to go to Tier 1 nationals. Tier 1 USA hockey operates on a birth year model, so Minnesota and ND teams have to be split up and players assigned according to USA hockey birth year designations. Historically, these teams are throttled at nationals. Minnesota might actually make a run this year, as the Blue Ox team (Moorhead and Warroad) 2010 group actually beat Shattuck for the autobid from Minnesota district. Shattuck will still get in at-large, but this might be the first time a ND/Minny group that isn't Shattuck makes a run. They will have their work cut out for them, but they will at least be competitive. If you look on gamesheet under 2024 chipotle usa hockey tier 1 national championships (then choose which birth year) you will see how last year went. At the 13O (bantam minor) level last year, Minnesota Loons went 1-4-0 with a -16 goal diff. Team ND went 0-5-0 with a -22 goal diff. Minnesota beat ND 4-3. National champion Little Casesars beat team ND 13-0 and beat MN Loons 12-0. Quote
yzerman19 Posted yesterday at 03:44 AM Posted yesterday at 03:44 AM 11 hours ago, JakeLove said: I read an article in The Minneapolis Star-Tribune that presented the fact that the MSHSL has lost about 1 boys varsity HS team every year for the last 15 years, with similar decline in girls (I forget the statistic); and that participation in each has dropped by about 10-15% over the reporting period. the article theorizes about cause (essentially complexity of participation and demographic trends) and without going into the merits of the theories, let this fact sink in: Bloomington, a city of 100,000+ will have ONE HS boys varsity team as the venerable Kennedy HS can no longer field a team. the overall skill has never been better (in ND and MN imho) but falling participation is a doom loop for HS hockey. for those truly interested in the future of the sport these are alarming facts. The governance of the sport needs to focus on participation and development of all participants not just the A/AA kids. ND HS so far is avoiding the downward trend and actually looks to be adding at least one more team in the near future (Minot North). yeah...Bloomington is large, but its historical homeowners are an aging demographic, and those moving in are demographically different than historical Bloomington. Jefferson, the juggernaut of the 90's doesn't even field a AA team at a lot of levels. People just need to be as realistic as the scouts are and face the realities. There are tracks: Top of the mountain: you are a top 50 player in the country for your birth year. No way are you playing high school after age 16. You are in the USHL, CHL, or at the NTDP. College is a lock. NHL is still viable. Climbing the mountain: you are a top 250 player in the country for your birth year. You might play high school at 17, but then you are in the USHL or CHL. College is likely. NHL is a long shot. Firm footing on the mountain: you are a top 1000 player for your birth year. You can play high school through senior year, make your way via NAHL or as an older entry into USHL, work hard and get a college spot if you earn it. College is a long shot. Pro ship has sailed unless you find a winning lottery ticket in the couch cushions. At Base Camp: Outside the top 1000 players for your birth year in the country. have fun playing in high school, play junior B if you want to delay real life and just have fun. Play intramurals in college. Maybe play some beer league and coach your kid until they outgrow your teaching. I was a base camper, and that's cool. More people need to have perspective. 2 Quote
petey23 Posted yesterday at 04:05 AM Posted yesterday at 04:05 AM 2 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said: I assure you the coaches drafting them into juniors or offering them college scholarships do not care if they are or if they are not. 2 of the top players on the SFP 16u team are from West Fargo plus Spehar's kid from Minnesota. Quote
yzerman19 Posted yesterday at 04:12 AM Posted yesterday at 04:12 AM The choice to play somewhere other than your hometown is based on 2 principles: you are either running from or running to. 1. A player/family might be running from a model or an association or a community that does not share their values or goals. Examples might be the coaches won't play younger players on principle regardless of talent or the powers that be won't play a talented player "up" or there is a personal conflict with the family and power brokers in the association. 2. A player/family might be running to a model or program that will provide (in their opinion) a better opportunity in terms of development, exposure, commeraderie, community. To me that is really it. Obviously my examples are not exhaustive. Also, many people lack perspective. How many ND players do you know that have left the ND or MN bubble and participated and succeeded on the national stage? Idiot parents see a kid who is old for their league (by USA Hockey standards) who is putting up big numbers against younger kids on bad teams...oh little johnny scored 130 points...well, little Jimmy playing in Boston played his birth year against the best in the country and put up 110...who translates to the next level...I ask rhetorically 1 Quote
Ndamukong_sioux Posted yesterday at 04:38 AM Posted yesterday at 04:38 AM I've been wanting to make this list for awhile, and with all the talk about leaving ND in this forum I decided to put my research pants on and compile a list of players who've left ND for Tier 1 with their current teams this year. Lot of good, lot of not so good and a lot still TBD. Couple things did stand out to me, West Fargo 07-08 birth years loaded and if you're from Minot you're probably better off staying in Minot. Enjoy! 2002 Hayden Helgeson - Grand Forks - didn’t play any hockey after 18u Northstar Christian (2021) Brady Braun - West Fargo - didn’t play any hockey after 18u Des Moines Buccaneers (2021) Blaise Miller - Grand Forks - Concordia College (NCAAD3) Ben Strinden - Fargo - UND (NCAAD1) Dane Montgomery - Grand Forks - UND (NCAAD1) Nick Pineo (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Not on active roster this year, last played 2023 Hudson Havoc (USPHL Premier) Jackson Kunz - Grand Forks - UND (NCAAD1) 2003 Liam Cox-Smith - Minot - Liberty Univ. (ACHA) junior path NAHL (6 games) - NCDC-AJHL-SJHL-AJHL Dylan Jensen - Fargo - UNLV ACHA - Juniors NAHL Charlie Larson - Minot - Not on active roster this year, 2023 spent with Alexandria Blizzard (NA3HL) Beau Bergeron - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, 2022 Indy Jr Fuel 18u AAA Kade Peterson - West Fargo - U of Eau Claire (NCAAD3) Aiden Moser - Devils Lake - U of Wisconsin-Stevens Point (NCAAD3) Owen Hanson - Minot - Grand Canyon Univ (ACHA) Drew Montgomery - Grand Forks - Colorado College (NCAAD1) 2004 Dawson McCann - Minot - Neepawa Titans (MJHL) Brasen Boser - Minot - Arizona State (NCAAD1) Conner McLachlan - Jamestown - Not on active roster this year, last year Willmar Warhawks (NA3HL) Cole Spicer - Dubuque Fighting Saints - Drafted 2022 Round 4 #117 Boston Bruins Dylan Bast - Minot - Not on active roster this year, last year Taft School prep 2005 Anthony McIntosh - Minot - North Iowa Bulls (NAHL) Bauer Berry - Grand Forks - Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) Edmonton Oilers 7th rd pick #218 & St.Thomas Commit (NCAAD1) Landon Dauner - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, last year Austin Bruins (NAHL) Gavin Hruza - West Fargo - Austin Bruins (NAHL) Lief Ekblad (Goalie) - Williston - Kenai River Brown Bears (NAHL) & Winkler Flyers (MJHL) Neal Lindemoen - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, 2024 spent with Phoenix Jr. Coyotes Olan Endres - Grand Forks - Not on active roster this year, played 13 games in MJHL last season Zach Nehring - Minot - Western Michigan (NCAAD1) Drafted 2023 Round 3 #82 Winnipeg Jets Andrew Peterson (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Binghamton Buzz (NA3HL) 2006 Dylan McCann - Minot - Neepawa Titans (MJHL) Merik Grinaker - Fargo Angels - Peninsula Panthers (VIJHL) & Victoria Grizzlies (BCHL) Benjamin Likness - West Fargo - Bismarck Bobcats & Oklahoma Warriors (NAHL) Michael Mathison - West Fargo - Philadelphia Rebels (NAHL) Lucas Schoenborn - Minot - Battlefords North Stars (SJHL) Ryder McDonald - Grand Forks - Shattuck St. Mary’s 18u Prep Gage Martell - Bismarck - Odessa Jackalopes (NAHL) 2007 Lincoln Kuehne - West Fargo - USNTDP 18U - Colorado College commit (NCAAD1) Hudson Routh - West Fargo - Northstar Christian 18U AAA Benson Grande - Fargo North - South Kent 18U Prep Isaac Thompson - Devils Lake - Northstar Christian 18U Tanner Elser - West Fargo - Not on active roster this year, last Northstar Christian 16U Benson Grande - Fargo - South Kent School 18u Prep Easton Thvedt (Goalie) - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 18U Andrew O'Neill - Fargo - USNTDP U18 - UND Commit 2008 Hunter Rudolph - West Fargo - Northstar Christian 16U - St.Cloud Commit (NCAAD1) Zaide Penner - Northstar Christian 16u Reece Clayton - Northstar Christian 16u Paul Suda (Goalie) - Grafton - Cleveland Barons 16u Zac Zimmerman - Fargo - Moorhead HS (This one is to be funny) TJ Hale - West Fargo - Shattuck St. Mary’s 16U - Colorado College Commit (NCAAD1) Kane Johnson - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 16U/Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) Keaton Jundt - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 16U - UND Commit (NCAAD1) Ben Haaland - Minot - Northstar Christian 16U 2009 Colin Grubb - Minot - Shattuck St. Mary’s 16u Alex Gold - Fargo - Northstar Christian 16u Oliver Bryan (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Northstar Christian Lucas Hankey - Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 15U Logan Mosser - Minot - Team Maryland 150 AAA Jack Larkin - Fargo - Northstar Christian 16U Aven Bredvik - Fargo - Fox Motors 15U 2010 Connor Dwyer - Bismarck - WB/Scranton Knights 14U ALL info is from Elite Prospects and my brain. If I missed a few feel free to mention them and where they're playing this year. Quote
yzerman19 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago the 2010 kid made an interesting choice...didn't join a top end team, isn't attached to a school...the best barometer IMO is the national tournament and the high end summer stuff...if you put up big numbers or dominate in other ways at those events you are legit, because the competition is solid. The 2010 kid had a rough go it looks like at WSI last year. Bredvik kid is tiny, so he probably is playing 15O instead of high school because of his size issue. He isn't lighting it up in Michigan Tier 1...10th on his team, which is middle of the pack in Michigan. Quote
ChadR Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 9 hours ago, Ndamukong_sioux said: I've been wanting to make this list for awhile, and with all the talk about leaving ND in this forum I decided to put my research pants on and compile a list of players who've left ND for Tier 1 with their current teams this year. Lot of good, lot of not so good and a lot still TBD. Couple things did stand out to me, West Fargo 07-08 birth years loaded and if you're from Minot you're probably better off staying in Minot. Enjoy! 2002 Hayden Helgeson - Grand Forks - didn’t play any hockey after 18u Northstar Christian (2021) Brady Braun - West Fargo - didn’t play any hockey after 18u Des Moines Buccaneers (2021) Blaise Miller - Grand Forks - Concordia College (NCAAD3) Ben Strinden - Fargo - UND (NCAAD1) Dane Montgomery - Grand Forks - UND (NCAAD1) Nick Pineo (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Not on active roster this year, last played 2023 Hudson Havoc (USPHL Premier) Jackson Kunz - Grand Forks - UND (NCAAD1) 2003 Liam Cox-Smith - Minot - Liberty Univ. (ACHA) junior path NAHL (6 games) - NCDC-AJHL-SJHL-AJHL Dylan Jensen - Fargo - UNLV ACHA - Juniors NAHL Charlie Larson - Minot - Not on active roster this year, 2023 spent with Alexandria Blizzard (NA3HL) Beau Bergeron - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, 2022 Indy Jr Fuel 18u AAA Kade Peterson - West Fargo - U of Eau Claire (NCAAD3) Aiden Moser - Devils Lake - U of Wisconsin-Stevens Point (NCAAD3) Owen Hanson - Minot - Grand Canyon Univ (ACHA) Drew Montgomery - Grand Forks - Colorado College (NCAAD1) 2004 Dawson McCann - Minot - Neepawa Titans (MJHL) Brasen Boser - Minot - Arizona State (NCAAD1) Conner McLachlan - Jamestown - Not on active roster this year, last year Willmar Warhawks (NA3HL) Cole Spicer - Dubuque Fighting Saints - Drafted 2022 Round 4 #117 Boston Bruins Dylan Bast - Minot - Not on active roster this year, last year Taft School prep 2005 Anthony McIntosh - Minot - North Iowa Bulls (NAHL) Bauer Berry - Grand Forks - Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) Edmonton Oilers 7th rd pick #218 & St.Thomas Commit (NCAAD1) Landon Dauner - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, last year Austin Bruins (NAHL) Gavin Hruza - West Fargo - Austin Bruins (NAHL) Lief Ekblad (Goalie) - Williston - Kenai River Brown Bears (NAHL) & Winkler Flyers (MJHL) Neal Lindemoen - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, 2024 spent with Phoenix Jr. Coyotes Olan Endres - Grand Forks - Not on active roster this year, played 13 games in MJHL last season Zach Nehring - Minot - Western Michigan (NCAAD1) Drafted 2023 Round 3 #82 Winnipeg Jets Andrew Peterson (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Binghamton Buzz (NA3HL) 2006 Dylan McCann - Minot - Neepawa Titans (MJHL) Merik Grinaker - Fargo Angels - Peninsula Panthers (VIJHL) & Victoria Grizzlies (BCHL) Benjamin Likness - West Fargo - Bismarck Bobcats & Oklahoma Warriors (NAHL) Michael Mathison - West Fargo - Philadelphia Rebels (NAHL) Lucas Schoenborn - Minot - Battlefords North Stars (SJHL) Ryder McDonald - Grand Forks - Shattuck St. Mary’s 18u Prep Gage Martell - Bismarck - Odessa Jackalopes (NAHL) 2007 Lincoln Kuehne - West Fargo - USNTDP 18U - Colorado College commit (NCAAD1) Hudson Routh - West Fargo - Northstar Christian 18U AAA Benson Grande - Fargo North - South Kent 18U Prep Isaac Thompson - Devils Lake - Northstar Christian 18U Tanner Elser - West Fargo - Not on active roster this year, last Northstar Christian 16U Benson Grande - Fargo - South Kent School 18u Prep Easton Thvedt (Goalie) - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 18U Andrew O'Neill - Fargo - USNTDP U18 - UND Commit 2008 Hunter Rudolph - West Fargo - Northstar Christian 16U - St.Cloud Commit (NCAAD1) Zaide Penner - Northstar Christian 16u Reece Clayton - Northstar Christian 16u Paul Suda (Goalie) - Grafton - Cleveland Barons 16u Zac Zimmerman - Fargo - Moorhead HS (This one is to be funny) TJ Hale - West Fargo - Shattuck St. Mary’s 16U - Colorado College Commit (NCAAD1) Kane Johnson - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 16U/Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) Keaton Jundt - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 16U - UND Commit (NCAAD1) Ben Haaland - Minot - Northstar Christian 16U 2009 Colin Grubb - Minot - Shattuck St. Mary’s 16u Alex Gold - Fargo - Northstar Christian 16u Oliver Bryan (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Northstar Christian Lucas Hankey - Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 15U Logan Mosser - Minot - Team Maryland 150 AAA Jack Larkin - Fargo - Northstar Christian 16U Aven Bredvik - Fargo - Fox Motors 15U 2010 Connor Dwyer - Bismarck - WB/Scranton Knights 14U ALL info is from Elite Prospects and my brain. If I missed a few feel free to mention them and where they're playing this year. Nice list thank you! 1 Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted 21 hours ago Author Posted 21 hours ago 10 hours ago, Ndamukong_sioux said: I've been wanting to make this list for awhile, and with all the talk about leaving ND in this forum I decided to put my research pants on and compile a list of players who've left ND for Tier 1 with their current teams this year. Lot of good, lot of not so good and a lot still TBD. Couple things did stand out to me, West Fargo 07-08 birth years loaded and if you're from Minot you're probably better off staying in Minot. Enjoy! 2002 Hayden Helgeson - Grand Forks - didn’t play any hockey after 18u Northstar Christian (2021) Brady Braun - West Fargo - didn’t play any hockey after 18u Des Moines Buccaneers (2021) Blaise Miller - Grand Forks - Concordia College (NCAAD3) Ben Strinden - Fargo - UND (NCAAD1) Dane Montgomery - Grand Forks - UND (NCAAD1) Nick Pineo (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Not on active roster this year, last played 2023 Hudson Havoc (USPHL Premier) Jackson Kunz - Grand Forks - UND (NCAAD1) 2003 Liam Cox-Smith - Minot - Liberty Univ. (ACHA) junior path NAHL (6 games) - NCDC-AJHL-SJHL-AJHL Dylan Jensen - Fargo - UNLV ACHA - Juniors NAHL Charlie Larson - Minot - Not on active roster this year, 2023 spent with Alexandria Blizzard (NA3HL) Beau Bergeron - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, 2022 Indy Jr Fuel 18u AAA Kade Peterson - West Fargo - U of Eau Claire (NCAAD3) Aiden Moser - Devils Lake - U of Wisconsin-Stevens Point (NCAAD3) Owen Hanson - Minot - Grand Canyon Univ (ACHA) Drew Montgomery - Grand Forks - Colorado College (NCAAD1) 2004 Dawson McCann - Minot - Neepawa Titans (MJHL) Brasen Boser - Minot - Arizona State (NCAAD1) Conner McLachlan - Jamestown - Not on active roster this year, last year Willmar Warhawks (NA3HL) Cole Spicer - Dubuque Fighting Saints - Drafted 2022 Round 4 #117 Boston Bruins Dylan Bast - Minot - Not on active roster this year, last year Taft School prep 2005 Anthony McIntosh - Minot - North Iowa Bulls (NAHL) Bauer Berry - Grand Forks - Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) Edmonton Oilers 7th rd pick #218 & St.Thomas Commit (NCAAD1) Landon Dauner - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, last year Austin Bruins (NAHL) Gavin Hruza - West Fargo - Austin Bruins (NAHL) Lief Ekblad (Goalie) - Williston - Kenai River Brown Bears (NAHL) & Winkler Flyers (MJHL) Neal Lindemoen - Fargo - Not on active roster this year, 2024 spent with Phoenix Jr. Coyotes Olan Endres - Grand Forks - Not on active roster this year, played 13 games in MJHL last season Zach Nehring - Minot - Western Michigan (NCAAD1) Drafted 2023 Round 3 #82 Winnipeg Jets Andrew Peterson (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Binghamton Buzz (NA3HL) 2006 Dylan McCann - Minot - Neepawa Titans (MJHL) Merik Grinaker - Fargo Angels - Peninsula Panthers (VIJHL) & Victoria Grizzlies (BCHL) Benjamin Likness - West Fargo - Bismarck Bobcats & Oklahoma Warriors (NAHL) Michael Mathison - West Fargo - Philadelphia Rebels (NAHL) Lucas Schoenborn - Minot - Battlefords North Stars (SJHL) Ryder McDonald - Grand Forks - Shattuck St. Mary’s 18u Prep Gage Martell - Bismarck - Odessa Jackalopes (NAHL) 2007 Lincoln Kuehne - West Fargo - USNTDP 18U - Colorado College commit (NCAAD1) Hudson Routh - West Fargo - Northstar Christian 18U AAA Benson Grande - Fargo North - South Kent 18U Prep Isaac Thompson - Devils Lake - Northstar Christian 18U Tanner Elser - West Fargo - Not on active roster this year, last Northstar Christian 16U Benson Grande - Fargo - South Kent School 18u Prep Easton Thvedt (Goalie) - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 18U Andrew O'Neill - Fargo - USNTDP U18 - UND Commit 2008 Hunter Rudolph - West Fargo - Northstar Christian 16U - St.Cloud Commit (NCAAD1) Zaide Penner - Northstar Christian 16u Reece Clayton - Northstar Christian 16u Paul Suda (Goalie) - Grafton - Cleveland Barons 16u Zac Zimmerman - Fargo - Moorhead HS (This one is to be funny) TJ Hale - West Fargo - Shattuck St. Mary’s 16U - Colorado College Commit (NCAAD1) Kane Johnson - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 16U/Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL) Keaton Jundt - West Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 16U - UND Commit (NCAAD1) Ben Haaland - Minot - Northstar Christian 16U 2009 Colin Grubb - Minot - Shattuck St. Mary’s 16u Alex Gold - Fargo - Northstar Christian 16u Oliver Bryan (Goalie) - Grand Forks - Northstar Christian Lucas Hankey - Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 15U Logan Mosser - Minot - Team Maryland 150 AAA Jack Larkin - Fargo - Northstar Christian 16U Aven Bredvik - Fargo - Fox Motors 15U 2010 Connor Dwyer - Bismarck - WB/Scranton Knights 14U ALL info is from Elite Prospects and my brain. If I missed a few feel free to mention them and where they're playing this year. Colton Getzlaff leave early? Augustus Elbert - SFPower then NAHL Austin Bruins Bismarck has lost a ton of talent early as well 2005 Max Vig - USHL Cedar Rapids Rough Riders 2007 Charlie Vig - NAHL Bismarck and USHL Omaha Lancers 2006 Drew Beasley - NAHL MN Wilderness and MN Mallards 2006 Logan Keup - SJHL Melfort Mustangs 2006 Tristan Otto - Left for Bigsby Coffee but returned prior to school year Legacy High 2008? Cale Ackerman - Windy City Storm (weekend call up to the Force) Couple other kids from the Bismarck area that went to programs but not sure birth year Ahonen? Fox Motors, Shatz(sp)? Black Bear Quote
Ndamukong_sioux Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Frozen4sioux said: Colton Getzlaff leave early? Augustus Elbert - SFPower then NAHL Austin Bruins Bismarck has lost a ton of talent early as well 2005 Max Vig - USHL Cedar Rapids Rough Riders 2007 Charlie Vig - NAHL Bismarck and USHL Omaha Lancers 2006 Drew Beasley - NAHL MN Wilderness and MN Mallards 2006 Logan Keup - SJHL Melfort Mustangs 2006 Tristan Otto - Left for Bigsby Coffee but returned prior to school year Legacy High 2008? Cale Ackerman - Windy City Storm (weekend call up to the Force) Couple other kids from the Bismarck area that went to programs but not sure birth year Ahonen? Fox Motors, Shatz(sp)? Black Bear I didn’t want to include the Vigs, Luc Bydal, Getzlaff because they went to Jrs vs going to Tier 1. But thanks for adding in the ones I missed who went Tier 1. Quote
yzerman19 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Leaving to go to Tier 1 makes sense to me in the following limited circumstances: 1. 13 year old, Late birthday, good sized kid, dominated as a first year PeeWee, national peer group moving to Bantam (full contact), Association will not allow a play up, doesn't want to play musical chairs within the State and play against old team. 2. 15 year old, undersized, high end skill, national peer group playing 15O (birth year specific), High School doesn't play the younger guys much, doesn't want to play musical chairs within the State and play against old team. 3. 14 year old, got offer to play at a prestigious prep school like SSM, BK, MSC In these scenarios, I do not recommend taking the "easy" way and just going to the most convenient Tier 1 program. If you are going to make that move you are doing it for your kid for a purpose; and convenience and cost should not factor into it. Really need to think about coaching, competition, development in practices, etc. If you are making this move, you also better be honest about how good your kid is. I mean truly honest. Not are you the best player in town or the best player in the State even, but where do you stack up nationally. Did you do well at USA national camp? Did you do well at things like the WSI or Kings of Spring or CCM 68? If you don't know what those 3 things are, that answers your question right there. Are the big, reputable agencies reaching out to advise you for free because they see promise in your kid? Did you get drafted high in the CHL or USHL drafts? How good is your skating and your hockey IQ (the 2 primary differentiators as you move up the ladder). What is your genetic ceiling? I know that there are late bloomers and nobody wants to give up on their kids' dreams, but you aren't giving up by having them stay at home when home is the right place for them to be. The grass isn't greener somewhere else, its greener where you water it. Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Ndamukong_sioux said: I didn’t want to include the Vigs, Luc Bydal, Getzlaff because they went to Jrs vs going to Tier 1. But thanks for adding in the ones I missed who went Tier 1. Ahh that makes sense... Keup went to Fox motors before the SJHL 2007 Colton Spiewak - Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 2007 Drew Albrecht - Fargo - Sioux Falls Power 2008 Parker Roers Goalie Dickinson - Northstar Christian 2007 Alex Schlafman - Bismarck - left for Northstar but returned and played Century JV and will play Century next year 2006 Brooks Siemans - Bottineau - left for CAN Rink Academy and returned for jv/Varsity 2010 Trey Benson - WF to Shattuck 14u 2008 Brenden Hakstol - Shattuck 18u Edited 19 hours ago by Frozen4sioux Found more Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago Going into next season if a guy put the over/under number of bantams/high schoolers that leave for Tier"1"/AAA at 9.5... I'd take the over. Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago 13 hours ago, ChadR said: Have any ND seniors played junior games after the HS season ended? I would guess Morelli will play games for Minot again. Hasn't played yet. Taven James from Warroad has played for the Tauros. Very few are "affiliated" so that limits who can get into a game, there are a few but combine that with weekend commitments to TeamND / CCM team, and some teams being in tight races (Bismarck/Minot/Austin) it's doubtful the Seniors would get game action. Theres a few more practicing with Junior teams but won't be allowed to play this spring. Quote
yzerman19 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Anybody seen the NTDP eval roster? historically it comes out a week before the event, but the event starts next week and I haven't seen anything Quote
yzerman19 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said: Going into next season if a guy put the over/under number of bantams/high schoolers that leave for Tier"1"/AAA at 9.5... I'd take the over. I'll take the over Quote
Ndamukong_sioux Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, yzerman19 said: Anybody seen the NTDP eval roster? historically it comes out a week before the event, but the event starts next week and I haven't seen anything Just the 10 MN kids that got invites, YHH tweeted out the names earlier this AM. Quote
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