The Sicatoka Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 This season, when UND gets two or more goals in a game from seniors they are 10-1-0. (The loss was 3-2 to CC at REA with McMahon getting both goals for UND.) If the seniors don't chip in two or more they are 8-12-5. Final ride boys. How do you want to go out?
DamStrait Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 Wow, that really puts it into perspective. I wonder if Hak is aware of this stat? If so, it'd be a good one to go over with his seniors.
CoteauRinkRat Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 What a great stat, Sicatoka. That is very interesting and really shows what their leadership (scoring goals) does for the team.
SFSIOUX#1 Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 What a great stat, Sicatoka. That is very interesting and really shows what their leadership (scoring goals) does for the team. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or doesn't do.
keikla Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 How does this statistic compare to games lost or won when UND actually got two or more goals...regardless of who scored them? I agree that the team needs leadership from the more experienced, but at this point I'd be equally thrilled with a goal by a freshman as compared to a goal by a senior.
#1SiouxFBFan Posted March 8, 2005 Posted March 8, 2005 By my count, the Sioux are 18-8-4 (excluding the Manitoba exhibition game) when scoring 2 or more goals, regardless of who scores them. Another interesting stat is that UND's wins have all come in games when they have scored 2 or more goals. They are 0-5-1 when scoring less than two goals.
UMDDogz Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 I would crunch that stat for UMD...but since half the team are seniors...it would not really be a valid indicator
The Sicatoka Posted March 9, 2005 Author Posted March 9, 2005 The magic "two or more goals" point: Make it: 18-8-4 Miss it: 0-5-1 Of the "make it" sub-group: If seniors get two or more: 10-1-0 If seniors get less than two: 8-7-4 It still is pointing at when the seniors show up.
KirkEisenbeis Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 If the Senior Big Games statistic is worthy of a wow, then doing the same exercise with the sophomores should reveal that games where they score two or more will result in a very disappointing record. Senior Big Games: 10-1-0 (Seniors are eight skaters who make up 34% of team goal-scoring) Sophomore Big Games: 6-2-1 (Sophs are seven skaters who make up 30% of team goal-scoring) Of course we're going to get a nice-looking record: You're looking only using games where a specific group of eight skaters scored two goals, meaning that most games where the team scored exactly two goals are also being thrown out. (Sioux are 2-5-2 when they score exactly two.) The average number of goals in the Sophomore Big Games is 3.67. Yeah, 10-1-0 is better than 6-2-1, but they're not that dissimilar; choose your own reaction but this exercise tempers my amazement. Any time you take a chunk of eight skaters who total 1/3 of the goals on a .500 team, you're going to get a record that is significantly over .500. What the hell, let's try it on Duluth: UMD Senior Big Games: 13-3-3 (Senior class is 11 skaters who make up 63% of team goal-scoring) UMD JR-SO Big Games: 4-2-0 (JR-SO classes are seven skaters who make up 25% of team goal-scoring)
kr Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 Not sure what this adds to the figures thrown out but: for the senior class 7 out of 8 players have skated in 30 or more games this year (BC 27, NF 34, QF 36, CG 35, MJ 36, JM 32, RM 33, AS 33) while for the soph class 3 out of 7 players have skated in 30 or more games this year (RB 28, EF 18, SF 7, BM 21, CP 36, DS 33, MS 35) It is nice to have BM back in the lineup.
siouxnami Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 Not sure what this adds to the figures thrown out but: for the senior class 7 out of 8 players have skated in 30 or more games this year (BC 27, NF 34, QF 36, CG 35, MJ 36, JM 32, RM 33, AS 33) while for the soph class 3 out of 7 players have skated in 30 or more games this year (RB 28, EF 18, SF 7, BM 21, CP 36, DS 33, MS 35) It is nice to have BM back in the lineup. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Doh, I left my Sioux decoder ring at home.
siouxtatoo42 Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 Doh, I left my Sioux decoder ring at home. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> maybe this'll help BC-Bristish Columbia NF-New Foundland QF-Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman CG- Complete Game (baseball stat) MJ-Micael Jordan (transfer from NC) JM-James Massen (drew blank) RM-isn't that a band? (sorry-REM) AS-All Square (golf score) RB-Ryan Bayda EFI-Electronic Fuel Injected SF-San Fransisco BM-Bench Mark (surveying term) CP- Cold Pizza (espn show) DS-Dumb s&!t (me for doing this) MS-Multiiple Sclerosis (isn't that the telethon with jerry's kids?) sorry for making you read this. Brain cells regenerate after time, so if you have become dumber, don't worry, they will come back.
CoteauRinkRat Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 Um...can you repeat the part of the stuff where you said all about the...things?
UMDDogz Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 It is nice to have BM back in the lineup. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> With a little fiber, you can have BM at the same time every morning!!
BringDeanBack Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 Correct me if I am wrong, but are these stats correct for Fylling, Canady, Massen Fylling 35gp 10 pts Massen 32gp 4 pts Canady 27gp 3 pts Those are three seniors who all have got significant playing time this year. It is no wonder that the Sioux are struggling for a national tourney spot. On the bright side, Rory Mcmahon has been solid.
siouxnami Posted March 9, 2005 Posted March 9, 2005 Correct me if I am wrong, but are these stats correct for Fylling, Canady, Massen Fylling 35gp 10 pts Massen 32gp 4 pts Canady 27gp 3 pts Those are three seniors who all have got significant playing time this year. It is no wonder that the Sioux are struggling for a national tourney spot. On the bright side, Rory Mcmahon has been solid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Side note: What is with Fylling missing open nets this year? He had the keeper out of the picture Saturday in St. Cloud and shot it wide (missed by alot).
Smoggy Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 BM-Bench Mark (surveying term) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I suppose next you're going to be bringing TOC into the mix. Now I have visions of blue topping running threw my head.
redwing77 Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 I suppose next you're going to be bringing TOC into the mix. Now I have visions of blue topping running threw my head. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dumb questions: What does TOC and TUC stand for?
Smoggy Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 Dumb questions: What does TOC and TUC stand for? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Top of Curb (surverying term) Team Under Consideration (PWR/RPI term)
Sioux_Hab-it Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 Correct me if I am wrong, but are these stats correct for Fylling, Canady, Massen Fylling 35gp 10 pts Massen 32gp 4 pts Canady 27gp 3 pts Those are three seniors who all have got significant playing time this year. It is no wonder that the Sioux are struggling for a national tourney spot. On the bright side, Rory Mcmahon has been solid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is correct and compared to their previous years stats in order to fully appreciate that these individuals took one heck of a step backwards. Fortunately for us we are playing a team in the Dogs with the same problem, players such as Caig. So whose underachieving seniors want this weekend more. Answer that question and you can bet money on the outcome.
siouxtatoo42 Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 I suppose next you're going to be bringing TOC into the mix. Now I have visions of blue topping running threw my head. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> if you wanna come back and blue top, we have 3 miles of runway at the airbase to do five or six times, 150 feet wide, 50 ft stations. we're hiring and could use you.
kr Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 With a little fiber, you can have BM at the same time every morning!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What kind of crappy response was that!?!?
siouxtatoo42 Posted March 10, 2005 Posted March 10, 2005 What kind of crappy response was that!?!? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> solid
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