Crime

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9 hours ago, southpaw said:

What point are you trying to make?
Imagine if the killer had a gun. More people than Iryna would have been shot and potentially killed.

We can't prevent all murders, but we can make it harder to commit mass murders.

There were a ton of automobile deaths because people weren't wearing or didn't have seatbelts. We realized that a significant number of those deaths were preventable, so seat belts are now compulsory. More than 10,000 lives per year are saved in the US because of seatbelts, according to the NHTSA.

So, why don't we do the same with guns? Why are guns more important than lives?
I don't see a well-regulated militia necessary for the security of a free state anywhere, so why do we let nearly anyone purchase a gun?

Agree with UND MOORHEAD, think of how many deaths and violence a year involve alcohol, and how many lives are affected by it.  A lazy man’s argument would be to ban it, but we saw what prohibition did and how it created a sinister black market that created a huge criminal element that probably helped spawn the current cartels.  
Banning guns would leave only the criminal element black market with access, leaving law abiding citizen no means to defend themselves.  How about making people accountable for the crimes they do commit.  We could be like Canada and just put our key fobs in the mailbox, so the criminals don’t have to come inside to get what they want.
 

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15 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

We don't ban alcohol or tobacco, but we do regulate them. We regulate who can or cannot drive a motor vehicle. We should do the same with firearms.

The first part of the 2nd Amendment says "A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state." That is the part the gun lobby (NRA, GOA) wants everyone to forget about. But it's there nonetheless.

We need 5 day waiting periods for firearm purchases. We need criminal and mental health background checks. No more gun show loopholes.

We need a ban on cop killer bullets and other military grade ammunition.

We need a comprehensive, no exceptions, no excuses assault weapons ban. Weapons of war do not belong in the hands of anyone outside of the military and law enforcement.

And despite broad support for these measures across the political spectrum, it will never happen as long as the spineless jellyfish in Congress are afraid of the gun lobby.

What happened to Charlie Kirk was despicable and tragic. Same with all the school shootings over the past quarter century. This isn't a political issue. It's a human rights issue. And whether we want to do anything about it is up to us.

End rant. Flame away, because I don't give a damn anymore.

Yes, we do regulate alcohol and tobacco, and goodness knows that nobody under age ever uses either of them.  Talk about duckies and bunnies! 

[CMSioux]

Those NRA talking points are coming in handy. 

[UND1983]

Thing went really well the last four years, right? 

The sooner you simpleton's figure out it's one big orchestrated worldwide circus and we are peons with no control, the better your life will be.  There are no parties in control.  

[Sioux90]

13 hours ago, southpaw said:

What point are you trying to make?
Imagine if the killer had a gun. More people than Iryna would have been shot and potentially killed.

We can't prevent all murders, but we can make it harder to commit mass murders.

There were a ton of automobile deaths because people weren't wearing or didn't have seatbelts. We realized that a significant number of those deaths were preventable, so seat belts are now compulsory. More than 10,000 lives per year are saved in the US because of seatbelts, according to the NHTSA.

So, why don't we do the same with guns? Why are guns more important than lives?
I don't see a well-regulated militia necessary for the security of a free state anywhere, so why do we let nearly anyone purchase a gun?

This argument doesn’t hold water. We have constitutional rights. 

[Sioux90]

On 9/3/2025 at 4:54 PM, southpaw said:

Shifting gears, and I didn't know where to put this, but thought this was the best spot considering it was illegal. 

But, I was reading about how Germany would attack boats filled with civilians in the early to mid 1930s before WW2 got underway. 

Crazy that a country would murder civilians in international waters with no proof of capital crimes.

The Nazis also disarmed the German people. 

[Siouxperman8]

Boy - that whole “no politics” edict sure didn’t stick. 

[UND1983]

25 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

Boy - that whole “no politics” edict sure didn’t stick. 

Letting people wave their flag, kind of interesting