SiouxDini Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I don't believe anyone said the "enitire" region of Northwest North Dakota is Sioux hockey fans, however being from there too, I know many. Get over yourself 1234, Sioux Hockey has more interest that Bison Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 That is simply not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Which part of "Most important sport on campus" do you have an issue with? Just because you keep saying it is so, doesn't mean it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 If you would real the thread, you'd see we were arguing about the state, not the campus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXTX Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Again, it's impossible for you to claim an entire reigion is sioux fans JUST because you and your friends and family were. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Guess again. I never said entire region, but you said hockey was non-existent as a sport. Not true. Once again you have probably never been in western ND, so you really have no idea what your talking about and can't make an informed decision about what is popular. If your above statement is true then it would also point out the flawed logic in your response....Just because you and your family and friends went to NDSU doesn't mean everybody is a NDSU FB fan. Also, my older brother went to NDSU. Believe it or not, but there is even people in northwest ND that have season hockey tickets for the sioux and they have had them for 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 When I said hockey is non-existant what I meant was that there are no teams other than bismark gf and fargo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 It's obvious to anyone that hockey is number one at UND, but to think SI is correct that hockey is the most followed sport or has the most fan support in the state would be incorrect IMO. If the people of the state were asked, I would bet far more follow some type of football or football team. Almost all small towns in ND don't have hockey nor do they care about it. That isn't saying that NDSU football is followed by more people than UND hockey, because I think the tradition UND hockey has, and it is the closest thing the state has to a professional sports team. UND hockey does have a huge following, probably bigger than what the SI stats say, but I would say more people in the state follow football than hockey and basketball might even sneak in someplace. I hope UND football continues the success they have had the last 10 years or so and wins a few more National Championships. If that happens I bet NDSU football would not even be #2 on the same survey. How could Jim Leclair not make the list of ND's greatest athletes? IMO he should be on the list ahead of several others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 That is exactly what I was saying. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverman Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 When I said hockey is non-existant what I meant was that there are no teams other than bismark gf and fargo. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't know where in the he11 Bismark is.... But I know a few fans who drive from Bismarck, N.D. to watch Fighting Sioux hockey... Just a little F.Y.I....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonguy Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I don't know where in the he11 Bismark is.... But I know a few fans who drive from Bismarck, N.D. to watch Fighting Sioux hockey... Just a little F.Y.I....... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They have plenty of them at Krispy Kreme and most other doughnut shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Fargo is the only city in ND worth learning to spell right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxjoy Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 When I said hockey is non-existant what I meant was that there are no teams other than bismark gf and fargo. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm pretty sure the following high school hockey teams would disagree with you: Bottineau Devils Lake Dickinson Grafton-Park River Hazen-Beulah Jamestown Mandan Minot Wahpeton-Breckenridge West Fargo (a community that is not Fargo) Williston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 West Fargo -> Fargo Mandan -> Bismarck The rest of those teams are a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star2city Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I hope UND football continues the success they have had the last 10 years or so and wins a few more National Championships. If that happens I bet NDSU football would not even be #2 on the same survey. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dale Lennon's coaching and recruiting seem well on their way to making this a reality. How could Jim Leclair not make the list of ND's greatest athletes? IMO he should be on the list ahead of several others. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LeClair was not included because he was raised in South St. Paul, and even played two years of JC ball at UM-Crookston before UND. If the list included current state residents, he would certainly be on it, as he is the current mayor of Mayville, N.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 With Cass County making up approximately 20% of ND's population, NDSU obviously has a pretty large advantage over UND in terms of a potential fan base within short driving distance. What would be interesting, at least to me, would be whether the rest of the state--exluding Cass and GF counties--would self identify themselves as more of a UND or NDSU football fan. UND has the advantage of having a larger alumni base, and more success over the past 10-12 years. NDSU has the dI factor, plus considerable success, albeit much of it coming 15-20 years ago. Those of you who live in or are from central or western ND would be in a far better position than I to speculate on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 West Fargo -> Fargo Mandan -> Bismarck The rest of those teams are a joke. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Careful what you say. First off you are talking about High School teams. Second you should look up and down the list before you rattle off a statement like that. Grafton-Park River has more to say in North Dakota hockey than anyone other than GFC and GFRR...that includes FN & FS. Who's the last big time player a Fargo school has turned out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jloos Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Careful what you say. First off you are talking about High School teams. Second you should look up and down the list before you rattle off a statement like that. Grafton-Park River has more to say in North Dakota hockey than anyone other than GFC and GFRR...that includes FN & FS. Who's the last big time player a Fargo school has turned out? Cory McLean, Captain of Notre Dame hockey team, 1999 grad of Fargo North. Off the top of my head I can only think of him and Mike McLean from South - played for Army, Pat O'Leary from North (98) played for UND. Some others could have played D1 hockey but chose other sports - Askew from South, Hoffman from North (although that probably isn't very recent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 You could make the argument that Gopher Dan Irmen is from Fargo (although his last ND HS was GF Red River). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 The GF MSA still has almost 100000 people! That's not enough to fill the 13500 Alerus?! Cmon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 The GF MSA still has almost 100000 people! That's not enough to fill the 13500 Alerus?! Cmon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't recall anybody saying that there's not enough people in this area to fill the arena. In my opinion, it should be full every week. However, you could certainly make the same claim that the Fargodome should be full or nearly full with 180,000 people in the area or whatever the combined population of Cass and Clay counties is. And although 14,000 is nothing to be ashamed of, that still leaves roughly 4000 to 5000 empty seats every game. Both schools are averaging about 75% capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Right. But someone said that NDSU has a huge advantage since they have all the population, which isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Right. But someone said that NDSU has a huge advantage since they have all the population, which isn't true. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point was simply that if you're comparing which football team is more popular in the state of ND, UND or NDSU, NDSU has a big advantage because 20% of ND's population lives in Cass County. So regardless of the allegiances of the rest of the state, NDSU will likely have more fans due simply to the fact that the Fargo area is so much bigger than any other city in ND. It will likely be able to draw a lot of fans from Fargo who perhaps grew up elsewhere and had no allegiance prior to moving to Fargo but would be far more likely to follow the local team rather than one 75 miles away. Similarly, if somebody moves to Grand Forks from outside the area, chances are that they will follow UND more closely. The difference is that Fargo-Moorhead has far more of these types of people from which to draw from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisonfan1234 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 That's simply not true for one reason: UND students move to Fargo for the good jobs. Whereas no NDSU students move to GF for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 That's simply not true for one reason: UND students move to Fargo for the good jobs. Whereas no NDSU students move to GF for obvious reasons. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So which part of what I posted isn't true? I think you're misunderstanding what I wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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