siouxnami Posted March 21, 2004 Posted March 21, 2004 What a joke... The all tournment team was: Irman - my pick for MVP Bo - last goal was awesome power, speed, and an amazing shot Parise - best player on the ice Ballard - solid very, always noticable on the ice Jones - whatever, seemed like he was responsible for a bad Vanek goal, maybe I got my numbers mixed up. He never stood out, but then neither did anyone else on D. and Briggs??? - What a joke First King should have been the goalie on the all tourney team as he was the ONLY solid goalie that played 2 games. Briggs was terrible. He let in many soft goals against Duluth and was nothing special against UND. The whole tournment he was a rebound machine. The Gophers won despite Briggs. They won because Brandt played his worst game of the season (considering Wisconsin, but the first two periods were good there), letting in what I thought were 3 or 4 soft goals. That last goal was a joke. I expect that this game was an exception and I hope to see Brandt play the next 4 games as he is the best keeper at UND. Now the real season begins... Quote
DanHFboards Posted March 21, 2004 Posted March 21, 2004 Jones - whatever, seemed like he was responsible for a bad Vanek goal, maybe I got my numbers mixed up. He never stood out, but then neither did anyone else on D. Read this at the Gopher site about the Vanek goal, looks like it was Greene: The Golden Gophers tied the game at three just 2:08 into the third period on Thomas Vanek Quote
Fighting Sioux Fan Posted March 21, 2004 Posted March 21, 2004 Why Briggs, he was not very impressive at all! I agree that King should have gotten it. If not for him, AA would not have beaten CC. Briggs gave up four goals in two games, that is not all tournament team numbers, in my opinion! Quote
siouxperhockeyfan1029 Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 King deserved the award way more then Briggs did. I think King played the best of all te goalies in the tournament he just didnt have much in front of him. Quote
Sandman Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 By no means do I think Briggs deserved it but in a post game interview I heard on the radio he didn't think he deserved it and asked if his own family was doing the voting. Quote
Goon Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 By no means do I think Briggs deserved it but in a post game interview I heard on the radio he didn't think he deserved it and asked if his own family was doing the voting. In my HMO that is modesty. Quote
Skateblade Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Briggs Tourney MVP? I know it's hard to belive. There was more than a little beverage consumption going on this weekend at the Final 5. Perhaps those who voted had a few too many barley pops too! You'd have to have had more than a few though to mistake Briggs for MVP! Quote
Wantagh Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 The goal Vanek scored was a gift from Greene. But there was some pretty bad defense the whole game by the sioux. The goal that got called off was a bad defensive play by someone on the backcheck not taking the man. But there were times when the Sioux just took it too them but as a third period team this year, they did not play that way. Briggs did not deserve to be MVP of the tourney considering he gave up 9 goals in 2 games and got some good bounces in front of him. Quote
$2 hat Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 As a gopher fan I agree! King should've been the goalie and Irman the MVP. The sioux were well represented though. Quote
MinnesotaNorthStar Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 King was THE best goaltender at the Final Five...no one was even close. He let in 1 goal on 47 shots vs. CC to give AA a chance at the autobid, and 4 goals on another 40 some odd shots against one of the most high powered offeses in the country. I'm glad Briggs was "modest" about it, because he kept just enough pucks out of the net for Minny to win. They played two even games, and 8 goals in two games...as compared to 5...c'mon voters, grow a pair and recognize great goaltending. Briggs played Hauseresque (without the stickwork)...solid, but nothing special. Irmen played extrememly well and deserved to be tourney MVP, he was all over the ice both nights. Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Irmen played extrememly well and deserved to be tourney MVP, he was all over the ice both nights. I agree with that. There is no way Briggs is the MVP. In some cases the goaltending takes too much blame for his team losing, but in other cases, the goalie gets more credit than he deserved. That is definitely the case here. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 The all-tourney goalie should have been King. The tourney MVP should have been Irmen or G. Potulny, but they both have "home town" problems in the eyes of some. Quote
jojordan23 Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 How many points did Irmen and/or Grant P. have in 2 games? I still say the guy who scored 7 points is the MVP, but hey, I am just a homer... And yes, King should have been the all-touney goalie... Quote
YaneA Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 While I think King deserved to be MVP on merits alone, you have to ask yourself why the the voters (who--media?) refused to throw Anchorage a bone. Clearly, the Seawolves were the story of the tournament for a lot of reasons and they were snubbed when King wasn't placed on the all-tourney team. If you aren't gong to vote the top scorer MVP and give the award instead to a goalie, you darn well better award it to the BEST goalie there. I can't believe anyone doubts that King was the best goalie on the ice. Quote
jojordan23 Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 While I think King deserved to be MVP on merits alone, you have to ask yourself why the the voters (who--media?) refused to throw Anchorage a bone. Clearly, the Seawolves were the story of the tournament for a lot of reasons and they were snubbed when King wasn't placed on the all-tourney team. If you aren't gong to vote the top scorer MVP and give the award instead to a goalie, you darn well better award it to the BEST goalie there. I can't believe anyone doubts that King was the best goalie on the ice. I don't know that anyone could have said that any better... can we bring this to old Bruce M's attention? The people who voted on this award need to be taken outside and beaten by the likes of Matt Greene, Matt Jones, Mike Prpich, Jake Taylor, Marco Peluso, etc... Quote
Carl Spackler Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 This simply adds to the fact that the WCHA wants to see Minnesota win and get all the accolades....deserving or NOT!!!! Briggs would not be an MVP of a Pee Wee hockey tournament!!! What a total joke. Quote
dagies Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 I find it funny that Sioux fans are being ridiculed elsewhere for complaining about the MVP choice when many of the alternate suggestions here are Gophers. Quote
Kramerdog Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 One clarification: The media at the Final Five does not select the all-tournament team. It is selected by an unnamed panel of five people that votes via secret ballot and one person turns the results of the voting in to the WCHA officials at the end of the last game. When asked who was on the panel, the WCHA officials questioned after the game did not know who had done the actual voting. Several members of the media complained about this, and there may be a change in the way the all-tournament team is selected in the future. And in one hockey-watcher's opinion, this would have been a better and more deserving all-tourney team: F - Parise F - Irmen F - Schwabe D - Ballard D - Jones G - King MVP - Irmen Quote
sagard Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 One clarification: The media at the Final Five does not select the all-tournament team. It is selected by an unnamed panel of five people that votes via secret ballot and one person turns the results of the voting in to the WCHA officials at the end of the last game. When asked who was on the panel, the WCHA officials questioned after the game did not know who had done the actual voting. Several members of the media complained about this, and there may be a change in the way the all-tournament team is selected in the future. And in one hockey-watcher's opinion, this would have been a better and more deserving all-tourney team: F - Parise F - Irmen F - Schwabe D - Ballard D - Jones G - King MVP - Irmen This post sums up my picks, though I'm not convince any defensemen had great weekends. Voting secrecy is stupid. There is no accountability then. Quote
Fighting Sioux #1 Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 I heard an interesting spin on the MVP pick walking out of the X on Saturday night. A guy with a Gopher jersey on said to his buddy, "They gave the MVP to Briggs so he has some convidence going into the NCAA's." Question is....who are "they"?!?!?! Maybe there is some truth to that statement!! Quote
UMDDogz Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Irmen-- 3-1--4 deserves recognition Where was: Schwabe-- also 3-1--4, better than Irmen in the UM/UMD game Ridiculous to just divide up all-tournewy honors between the two teams in the championship game. Did the voters WATCH any games other than Saturday night?? Quote
Carl Spackler Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Irmen-- 3-1--4 deserves recognition Where was: Schwabe-- also 3-1--4, better than Irmen in the UM/UMD game Ridiculous to just divide up all-tournewy honors between the two teams in the championship game. Did the voters WATCH any games other than Saturday night?? Isn't it obvious they didn't WATCH the game.....hell Briggs got the MVP. Quote
redwing77 Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 Irmen-- 3-1--4 deserves recognition Where was: Schwabe-- also 3-1--4, better than Irmen in the UM/UMD game Ridiculous to just divide up all-tournewy honors between the two teams in the championship game. Did the voters WATCH any games other than Saturday night?? I agree about Irmen, but not about Irmen's performance against UMN. I think the recognition is due that an, at best, mediocre penalty kill of Minnesota managed to score short handed on the Bulldogs. SHGs should be a rarity and Irmen made it look easy. Quote
StarzUND Posted March 22, 2004 Posted March 22, 2004 I agree about Irmen, but not about Irmen's performance against UMN. I think the recognition is due that an, at best, mediocre penalty kill of Minnesota managed to score short handed on the Bulldogs. SHGs should be a rarity and Irmen made it look easy. Danny is deadly on the PK, last year in Lincoln, he lead the league in SHG with 9 I think. Quote
MinnesotaNorthStar Posted March 23, 2004 Posted March 23, 2004 Did any defensmen play defense at all this tournament? Watching the games, Ballard and Jones (my bias aside) definately had the best tourney of defensmen though neither really played that well. MY all tourney team MVP - Irmen F-Irmen F-Parise F-Schwabe (got screwed out of a goal...he should have had 2 on Saturday, they gave it to Lessard) D-Jones D-Ballard G-King I agree about Irmen, but not about Irmen's performance against UMN redwing...Irmen didn't play against UMN Quote
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