Predator Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 The State Senate Passed House bill 1263 by 28-15. Now to you Mr. Governor. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 I'm pretty sure the NCAA's attorneys are filling out brackets, and not fretting over this, right now. Quote
Predator Posted March 11, 2011 Author Posted March 11, 2011 Does the Gov have balls enough to veto? Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Does the Gov have balls enough to veto? This, my friend, is the million dollar question. Dalrymple signs this, it opens several cans of worms, but he also assures, IMO, a hefty support in his future campaigns. SIGN IT GOVERNOR!!!! SIOUX FOREVER! Quote
CAS4127 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Is there anything in the bill regardig the effecitve date? If not, then it is August 1, 2011, assuming the Govenator signs it. The "retirement" date for the nickname is August 15, 2011, right??? The timing of this kinda mucks things up, but we will definetely be hearing more about all of this in the days, weeks, and months ahead. Anybody know any "good" attorneys? Quote
Predator Posted March 11, 2011 Author Posted March 11, 2011 http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/196451/ Quote
star2city Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 This, my friend, is the million dollar question. Dalrymple signs this, it opens several cans of worms, but he also assures, IMO, a hefty support in his future campaigns. SIGN IT GOVERNOR!!!! SIOUX FOREVER! Both the Senate and the House votes show enough support to override any Governor veto. The Bill will become law. There may be constitutional questions, but who will have standing to bring those issues to court? Quote
Goon Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Does the Gov have balls enough to veto? He would be committing political suicide if he doesn't sign it. Quote
Predator Posted March 11, 2011 Author Posted March 11, 2011 He would be committing political suicide if he doesn't sign it. I think it would be so detrimental you could call it murder! Quote
Predator Posted March 11, 2011 Author Posted March 11, 2011 Vote breakdown and a quote from the Gov saying he plans to sign the bill http://northdakota.areavoices.com/ Quote
CAS4127 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Both the Senate and the House votes show enough support to override any Governor veto. The Bill will become law. There may be constitutional questions, but who will have standing to bring those issues to court? Now nickname supporters need to focus on the proposed legislative referendum to amend the ND Constitution to essentially eliminate the SBoHE. If that bill passes (not even sure where it stands right now), then the question becomes whether there is a June primary election this year. Don't know that personally right now either. If so, then will the question be put on that ballot, or will it or does it HAVE to be a question for the general election ballot because it could amend the ND Constitution--again, not sure on that. Even if a June ballot question, and assuming it passes, when does that measure become effective? Again, not sure. But, for know, the SBoHE would have standing because of its constitutional stature and power to control ND colleges and universities. Like I said earlier, this is is long from over--ya, I know Sicatoka--major understatement. Anybody got time to do some research this weekend?! Quote
Knickball2 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 North Dakota, the only area in the country that doesn't bow to Political Correctness Zealots, Take that Ron His Horse Is Thunder, Robert Kelley, Brian Faison, Jesse Taken Alive, Max Schneider and the rest of you nay sayers. Majority rules, Fighting Sioux forever. 1 Quote
Wilbur Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 SIOUX YEAH YEAH! Let the bickering begin from the people that say there are bigger issues out there than the Sioux name. Quote
Fighting Sioux Fan Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 What email address do we use to show our support to the Govenor? Quote
FargoBison Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 He would be committing political suicide if he doesn't sign it. Pretty sure he doesn't have to sign it and I doubt he will if he doesn't have to. The bill is just way too divisive and has the potential to create some nasty debates when it comes to the legislature vs the SBoHE. It also sticks UND with the nickname and does nothing to solve the problem with the NCAA. 1 1 Quote
NDSUguy Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Not trying to fan the flame but I have a few questions: 1. This does not require the AG to sioux the NCAA. What happens if the AG refuses to do this. 2. If the AG did sue the NCAA, what happens if when the AG loses the lawsuit (like before) Is it possible that this vote will keep the nickname but in return UND loses all home playoff games from here on out? Quote
SIOUXPR Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Now nickname supporters need to focus on the proposed legislative referendum to amend the ND Constitution to essentially eliminate the SBoHE. If that bill passes (not even sure where it stands right now), then the question becomes whether there is a June primary election this year. Don't know that personally right now either. If so, then will the question be put on that ballot, or will it or does it HAVE to be a question for the general election ballot because it could amend the ND Constitution--again, not sure on that. Even if a June ballot question, and assuming it passes, when does that measure become effective? Again, not sure. But, for know, the SBoHE would have standing because of its constitutional stature and power to control ND colleges and universities. Like I said earlier, this is is long from over--ya, I know Sicatoka--major understatement. Anybody got time to do some research this weekend?! The question wouldn't be put on the ballot until the next general election in November 2012. You can find the text of the bill here: http://www.legis.nd.gov/assembly/62-2011/documents/11-3095-01000.pdf The info about the date is on line 16. Also, the constitutional change would not go into effect until January 1. 2015. This info is in section 6 at the end of the bill. Quote
PhillySioux Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 I wonder if we will see statements from the involved parties before Monday. Quote
Knickball2 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 The AG's lawsuit against the NCAA will be in Federal Court and will include Intellectual property infringements, Gordie Caldis, GF Attorney was right all along, the original action should have been in Federal Court, with the precedent of the Central Michigan Chippewas being followed. Bring a constitutional claim if you dare SBoHE, those individuals know the overwhelming tide of distain that they will be forced to endure if they make that move. What a great day in Fighting Sioux History, what a great day for North Dakotans, and even more so, what a great vindication for the people of the Spirit Lake tribe. 1 Quote
Predator Posted March 11, 2011 Author Posted March 11, 2011 Pretty sure he doesn't have to sign it and I doubt he will if he doesn't have to. The bill is just way too divisive and has the potential to create some nasty debates when it comes to the legislature vs the SBoHE. It also sticks UND with the nickname and does nothing to solve the problem with the NCAA. Vote breakdown and a quote from the Gov saying he plans to sign the bill http://northdakota.areavoices.com/ Quote
mksioux Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Not trying to fan the flame but I have a few questions: 1. This does not require the AG to sioux the NCAA. What happens if the AG refuses to do this. 2. If the AG did sue the NCAA, what happens if when the AG loses the lawsuit (like before) Is it possible that this vote will keep the nickname but in return UND loses all home playoff games from here on out? 1. You are right. The bill only requires the AG to consider suing the NCAA. He does not have to sue the NCAA. The AG has hinted that beacuse of his role in the previous lawsuit on behalf of the SBoHE and because of the constitutional questions this bill raises, he may have a conflict of interest and recuse himself from making that consideration. I'm not exactly srue how that works, but I think outside counsel would be retained to act as a Deputy AG . But I could be wrong on this. 2. The AG did not lose the previous lawsuit. It was settled. If the NCAA places UND back on the sanctions list and the State sues the NCAA and loses, presumably UND would simply stay on the sanctions list (i.e. wouldn't be able to host playoff games). As to your final point, it's possible but not certain. Lots of variables left to be sorted out. Quote
mksioux Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 The AG's lawsuit against the NCAA will be in Federal Court and will include Intellectual property infringements, Gordie Caldis, GF Attorney was right all along, the original action should have been in Federal Court, with the precedent of the Central Michigan Chippewas being followed. Bring a constitutional claim if you dare SBoHE, those individuals know the overwhelming tide of distain that they will be forced to endure if they make that move. What a great day in Fighting Sioux History, what a great day for North Dakotans, and even more so, what a great vindication for the people of the Spirit Lake tribe. I know next to nothing about IP Law. If someone knows something about it and sees a path toward successful litigation, please share. Quote
FargoBison Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 Saw that. So what is next...A constitutional debate about the authority of the SBoHE and legislature? Quote
Wilbur Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 No way, Bison fans on a Sioux board trying to rain on a bit of a victory parade.... Quote
Let'sGoHawks! Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 North Dakota, the only area in the country that doesn't bow to Political Correctness Zealots, Take that Ron His Horse Is Thunder, Robert Kelley, Brian Faison, Jesse Taken Alive, Max Schneider and the rest of you nay sayers. Majority rules, Fighting Sioux forever. This is a multidimensional situation, with many question marks remaining...but i LOVE your statement. I'm proud to be a North Dakotan!!! Quote
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