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With the portal, investment in modern facilities will be more important than ever now.

Looks like NDSU has two. https://gobison.com/sports/football/coaches

I understand where you're coming from almost like the whole #firehakstol vs keep Hakstol thing with the hockey team. Curious - did you have an opinion on that matter before he left? Speaking of MSU, it would be nice to be able to watch that second half! Have you seen it available to watch anywhere yet?

Given that this was one of the best and deepest teams ever, which I agree, I just don't see why you don't think the roster can't continue to improve and get deeper along with UND's chances for a championship. UND's record has been up and down with Bubba, but I think the program has very steadily improved and I think it is still improving. Until I see evidence to the contrary I think firing Bubba would be too high of a risk/reward to justify firing, though I'd be fine with moving either of the coordinators to HC. If Bubba is fired I think both would be gone and I don't want them to leave though.

But he choked when it counts in the playoffs vs a terrible coaching staff Please disregard that comment - I know that wasn't really the point. Utah State this year would be another good example of what you're getting at I suppose. Sorry in advance for rambling. Big name coach. However, given that he brought in, from what I remember, 20-30 transfers, is there any reason to believe that success will be sustained once he leaves after the 3-4 years that has been discussed? I think putting pressure on a coach to have immediate success can have a negative impact on the culture of the program, as fewer players are "bought in" four/five year players. With too many transfers, how likely are most of the guys likely to stick around once the coach moves on vs guys recruited as high schoolers who (imo) have more loyalty to the program? If you hire a coach and have extremely high expectations for immediate improvement, or if the coach plans to use UND as a stepping stone,, is there a chance that forces the coach to make short term recruiting decisions to the detriment of the long term stability of the program? For example perhaps he takes in upperclassmen transfers rather than freshman so he can have better roster depth in the short term, as he doesn't really care about what happens with the roster after a huge class graduates because he aims to be hired away to another school anyway, thereby leaving the cupboard bare for the next coach. There are many examples of coaches turning teams around after one season, but what is the difference between flash in the pan teams and teams who get turned around and then have long term success after the coach leaves right away? What are the odds of sustained success say Missouri State's coach moves on? Probably higher than if he didn't coach there at all, but then again UND is nowhere near as low as that program has been. Long story short, I don't want UND to become a Jacksonville State type program. If you're aware of that program you'll know what I'm getting at.

Yes.

@Midwestern Hawkare you able to find it within yourself to admit that you were wrong about Tommy for once, in that he didn't force the throw and it wasn't a bad throw?

He got sacked by the guy to his left

How?

I don't know either, but you know we would hear about it if they didn't convert, with the obvious benefit of hindsight.

THIS. Speaking of stupid decisions, some people want to replace the coach even though the program doesn't have the money to attract a guy that has any winning HC experience at this level... Going forward, I'd prefer to not literally gamble on the trajectory of the program. Bubba is taking a pay cut to help with assistant pay - no doubt quality candidates will be banging down the door for that opportunity! Not wanting to overhaul the program after dominating a playoff game and winning a share of the conference title a few months ago, because we lost close games on the road to some of the best teams in the country this fall does not mean that I have low expectations. The program is continuing to trend the right direction in terms of team talent, expectations, and depth, and the coaches are building the program the right way. If this is a down year, I fail to see how the coaching staff has reached it's potential.

You all realize that SDSU's DE that was smoking our LT, and who sacked Tommy twice during the last drive, finally got off the field when you are complaining Bubba didn't call a time out? Is that really a stupid coaching decision? Bubba shoulda let the guy take a breather and not miss any snaps? It looked to me like Richter was pretty open for the interception as well (guy who intercepted the ball was behind Richter), and Tommy had time to set his feet and make a throw, but he was off by a few inches. It happens. Perhaps if Richter didn't slow down and hesitate as he was making his cut, the ball would have been right in his hands? Watch the replay again and focus on Richter - the ball was right on the money if he doesn't slow down...

I'm not virtue signaling and he wasn't acting as a vigilante - you admitted so yourself when you said he was defending himself. If you are about to argue that you weren't implying that he was, I think you're full of it. I think everyone would agree that actual vigilantism are bad. Watch the actual testimony.

If there weren't rioters and arsons or the proper authorities actually enforced the law.. kyle was hardly the problem if you actually follow all of his actions throughout the night. As a 17 year old he made a stupid decision to go there, as many high schoolers also make stupid decisions, but he at least was going there for the right reasons.

Did you watch any of the trial or his testimony? He doesn't have that attitude at all. "How dare he clean graffiti, put out Arson fires, and protect himself". If this happened in GF would you really rather have the rioters in dt grand forks or a bunch of people like rittenhouse?

What would you classify as a deep ball, in yards? Can you cite some examples of Tommy screwing up deep throws?

Within the next year or two. I don't think our OL was good in the spring. It was solid, about average for a mvfc team, imo.

I agree for the most part, but completely disagree the he's brick footed. He does an amazing job of moving around in the pocket. No matter the offensive scheme, taking as few sacks as he has while throwing the ball as often as we do is impressive.

Oral Roberts broke ground a couple of days ago on a new athletic center and basketball practice facilities. "The Mike Carter Athletic Center is estimated to cost more than $15 million and will be built debt free. The building will be located on the southeast side of the Mabee Center and construction will take approximately 18 months to complete. The facility will house a 10,000-square-foot sports performance area with turf and a fueling station allowing multiple teams to train at the same time. A new Eli Academic Center will have open study space as well as individual and group study rooms and a team room large enough for 100 people. In addition, two, full size practice courts are being built for the men's and women's basketball teams along with administrative and coaches offices."

If we're got to choose the one spot the team could get better at, I'd still say the O Line is more important. A mobile QB doesn't help much on 3rd/4th and short if our O-line can't get enough push for a 1-3 yard gain when the D stacks the box and is expecting a run. Do you think Tommy has the ability to become as good of enough runner as you would like? As in, do you think it's only decision making or do you think he isn't athletic enough or both? My worry is that I think it's unlikely that we find a QB that is both a better runner AND has as as good of a pocket presence and accuracy as Tommy. I hope he stays QB, but with him being very young still, I think he can learn and improve his running game. If he can do that, and the o line improves, UND could be really damn good on offense.

He's no Quinton Patterson. I agree with siouxfan512 - looks like average QB speed with but with above average toughness/effort. Wasn't Joe Mollberg supposed to be a mobile qb as well? I remember him being way slower than I expected as well, given the hype. Given that Vaugn is supposed to have a stronger arm, has he had the chance to throw ANY deep balls? I don't recall any, which is crazy considering the d usually expects a running play.

Yeah I guess he is starting for JV until the middle brother graduates. Coach had high praises for all three, and the article implied that there was little doubt about him being the starter for the next couple years.

We didn't want him anyway.