UNDBIZ

That "article" may have had less facts than SAB. It was written by a moo U student so the fact that a majority of the words were spelled correctly is impressive. If only he had the truth of it and the debate was over and the nickname was gone until that magical day when SL wins their lawsuit against the ncaa (a guy can hope right???).

The end zones don't really matter because UND would never be allowed to host a home playoff game if they don't dump the sioux moniker. You really just don't get it do you?

True or False: Dave K cares about the University of North Dakota. True or False: The logo is a photograph. We all know the answer to both those questions is false. The logo may be a work of art, but so were old Disney movies.

I'm sure it's not what you meant because most of your posts are great, but comparing having the Sioux moniker to having dog poo on your shoes is a bit harsh Ira. I'd say it's more comparable to having your foot caught in a bear trap

Business - UND Law - UND Nursing and most Med - UND Electrical Engineering - UND Aerospace - UND Mechanical Engineering - NDSU by a hair Civil Engineering - NDSU by a lot Pharmacy - NDSU Architecture - NDSU Ag (other than actually owning the farm which would qualify as business ) - NDSU

Carlson doesn't care about the nickname at all, he's just using it to rile up the masses against the SBHE. This is simply an attempt at a power grab.

Carlson introduced the proposal to have an appointed commissioner. Not sure about the elected one.

Exactly!! Only white people are allowed to go back on their word!!!

Are you f$!%ing serious?!? This is what UND (and the state, minus Al Carlson, with the repeal law) attempted to do!! Then a bunch of retards idiots got together with petitions and screwed up the entire process. Based on your comments, you obviously live in a box. You have no idea what has happened in the last 7 years (or 1 year, for that matter) and you have no clue as to how the sanctions will harm UND.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes. Sorry, I've been on a Star Wars marathon today

this isn't bisonville

Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em. The state throwing more money at the name will simply result in more money spent. The name will be just as gone or the University will be just as hurt. Spirit Lake's lawsuit could potentially save the name, but the laws, consitutional amendments, etc. do nothing but harm UND.

Careful, Lakes will accuse you of threatening a legislator

Unfortunately, even then it would be unlikely.

Let's not judge the kid. I'm happy to have him committed to UND and I hope the coaches/players/etc can convince him to actually come to UND. That OHL scout looks like a sneak and reeks of desperation.* *I feel completely comfortable judging and bashing on an OHL scout.

I don't think Matt was saying it's unlikely UND gets the boot, I think he was saying it would be a VERY uncommon thing in the world of NCAA athletics if it happened. Which shows how rare just having the commissioner talk about kicking out a member is.

Hmm, I guess I made an ASSUMPTION. See what happens when people ASSUME things and they are wrong? They look dumb. In the case of the Fighting Sioux debate, the people ASSUMING no harm will come to UND are risking something the rest of us have no intention of losing.

Being ranked #23 is not my goal for the football program. Beating Sioux Falls with a last second field goal is not my goal for the football program. Going the entire season without a road win is not my goal for the basketball program. You assume the Big Sky will keep UND. I'd rather know than assume. I realize you didn't go to UND and you don't care about anything but the MEN'S hockey team and the logo, but the other sports are important to a lot of people and to the University as a whole.

If you think the product UND put on the football field and basketball court from 2008-2010 was of high quality, then it's obvious you haven't been watching any games. The football team lost to SIOUX FALLS of the NAIA. That can never be allowed to happen again. Did you play football for UND? No? Then you have no idea what recruits consider in making a decision. The Big Sky used the Sioux logo because at the time of acceptance UND was the Fighting Sioux but UND officials had made it clear that they were going to follow the agreement entered into with the NC$$.

UND sports sponsored by the Big Sky will lose viability. Without recruits, teams will go bad. Why would a recruit pick a school knowing he/she could never have a playoff atmosphere game at home in front of their friends? Knowing that they'll never get to play against Minnesota, Wisconsin, or the other big regional schools? When the Big Sky accepted UND, it was pretty clear UND was going to drop the name, but then Carlson got involved. UND was a perfect looking apple that the Big Sky plucked from the tree. The Big Sky is now hoping the apple isn't rotten inside and they don't have to throw us away.

I'm gonna go ahead and call bullsh*t on this one.

SayAnything blog told them it was true so it must be

1. You can still cheer GO SIOUX without handicapping UND athletics with the nickname. Everyone will know who you're talking about. 2. You've really lost any credibility you may have ever had on this site.

You're referring to smart people being vastly outnumbered by..... uh...... less smart people?

It appears they have a guy who belongs in a freak show/carnival/circus. http://www.hometeamsonline.com/teams/default.asp?u=SOUTHSHOREMENSHOCKEY&t=c&s=hockey&p=profile&playerID=238102