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Scott, Chuckie is not going to do any of that, this is the same dummy that was going to change the UND name so I can't see him doing this. I think maybe it is time for UND to some how push Chuck out and find a president that understands UND. Probably a UND Alumni. President Kendall Baker was heads and toes about this guy. Chuck doesn't get it. I have read that if Chuck had changed the name some very powerful people UND Alumni would have removed Chuck very quickly. What does everyone think?

Here is another one. Sounds like everyone pretty much blew off the Protesters. It is a whole bunch to do about nothing... 4 November, 2001 Letter to editor: Mascot fight no place for SCSU Stu Peterson, Clear Lake -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After reading in the Oct. 22 Times the article about the controversy over the University of North Dakota's nickname, I felt it necessary to state my opinion. St. Cloud State University President Roy Saigo was hired to run the university. He and the others involved at St. Cloud State must have extra time on their hands to be sticking their noses in other colleges' business. If he worked for me, I would fire him. Could it be the interest in this issue is because of funding from Grand Casino? Since this is a democracy, let's have a vote. I cast mine for North Dakota to do whatever it wants. Maybe Saigo and Sudie Hoffmann can next go after the "Fighting Irish." Ridiculous!

Here is good article I found in the St Cloud Times. Interesting... Does anyone know if Lil Johnny Hoff is going to show up for the Protest this weekend? 1 November, 2001 Readers' views: Nickname is not important issue Mike Kennedy, St. Cloud -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many thanks to Sports Editor Dave DeLand for the sensible column in the Oct. 25 Times pointing out the ridiculous stance of St. Cloud State University regarding the University of North Dakota's nickname and logo. There are enough issues to deal with that affect all the students, including the fact that the cost of attending public and private colleges and universities in Minnesota increased this year faster than the national average. I found the allegation by the St. Cloud State representative that the team nickname is hate speech to be nonsense. Perhaps university officials who have appointed themselves as the Speech Police should know that in the 1930s the council of Sioux elders of the Standing Rock Reservation offered the name to the university, in honor of their own fathers, the great Sioux warriors. The council decision was renewed in the 1950s and again in the 1980s. Many of the native Americans who object to the name aren't even Sioux. They are Ojibwe and Arikara -- historical enemies of the Sioux, as pointed out by David Yeagley of Oklahoma State University, a professor and member of the Comanche Tribe in Lawton, Okla. Perhaps an institution such as St. Cloud State that prides itself on education ought to do its homework and the Times should reserve its top spot on the front page for real news.

Ok, I see what some are saying. Look at Florida State Univesity and all the stuff they do with the Mascott/Logo. I mean they have a guy go out on a horse and throw a spear into the ground at the 50 yard line. I read somewhere while doing some research on the subject that Seminols didn't even ride horses. FSU also has the tomahawkchop and all of that stuff, you don't see stuff of that magnitude up here in Grand Forks. I don't know if we could have done the opening of the REA any more respectful. I think lawyers would argue first amendment all the way. Florida State Football is a big business. I doubt they are just going to ok, we will change the name. I don't think it is going to be that easy. Your probably opening up a string of law suits and litigation that would last for years.

Here is something that was on KCNN.COM/GUESTBOOK The UND name is going national because of SCSU. There is now a study by the NCAA Minority Opportunities and Interests Committee that will go until Aug 2002 do determine if these mascots will change. The St. Cloud Times story said that the Committee will probably be visting Grand Forks within the next few months on this issue. This issue is going national, so it does not matter just what people in Grand Forks and North Dakota think. Espically since most of the national press has been negative on this issue to UND and Mr. Engelstad. Nickname Change Supporter <undflickertail@hotmail.com> Grand Forks, ND USA - Monday - October 29,2001- 10:51:57 No offense how can the NCAA make a team chage its logo. I mean if UND has to Change its name, they QU, SDSU, FSU, CMU are going to have to change it names and I can't see it because I think it would end up in the Supreme Court and it goes back to the First Amendment. I just cant stand these P.C. Nazis...