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At least this thread has lived up to its name.

Wasn't me making that argument. I'm just saying I would love to see it. If they played a game down here, I would definitely go. That being said, I will try to go to the game this fall in Fargo if I can. I will at least be up there to tailgate and enjoy the festivities. Should be fun, can't wait.

I've heard that as well.

Yep, alot of alumni in the region that would go to that. I would love to see a football game, just don't have the time to make it up to GF.

I personally hate that logo. Would like to think they could do better than that; not visually appealing at all. Would look hideous on a hockey jersey, and even worse on other sporting apparel.

Agreed, I was a fan of Nokota from early on. No reason to have eliminated that so early one. It was original, unique to the region (state horse), and there is nothing controversial about a horse.

Personally, Not a fan of this. North Stars is a great name for a MN tean, Not good for a ND team, and really not a fan of just Stars either.

Did they already state they will narrow it down to 2 before voting?

Well if it works, then more power to them, but generally these kinds of protests do absolutely nothing. Well within their right to protest though. Can't blame any of these folks for feeling as though they were not heard.

I understand which way Lowell voted, but prior to voting he also made the comment. Just pointing out that there are people of the opinion that their opinion is superior to everyone else's. I actually really appreciate that regardless of personal opinion he was willing to vote to allow everyone to have their input. As for the rest, just read the message boards and look at any previous poll whether it is on here, or a newspaper website. No Nickname has been an extremely popular option; that statement is not even worth arguing. I'm not stating it should be the outright favorite or winner, but with that level of popularity, it should not have been removed from contention at this point in the process.

Not saying this is the right approach, but I think it has more to do with the process and how everything has unfolded over the fact that there will be a new nickname. People don't like not having their voices heard when they are so passionate about something. As for being frustrated ... What the heck do you have to be frustrated about? You didn't want no nickname as an option and it isn't. Let the other group be emotional and frustrated about it. Wouldn't you be, if after of this the committee simply chose North Dakota, and eliminated your preferences without you getting any say in the matter?

It all comes down to money. NDSU chooses to invest in Football and Basketball, and who can blame then. Those are the big money makers (at the vast majority of schools) and they have had success in them. BUT I really would love to see a big investor come to the school looking to start up a program. UND-NDSU hockey rivalry would be a blast. You can never have to many rivalries, and this would be a fun one.

HAHAHA, I'm all for No Nickname, but if there was ever a way to shoot it down harder, this is it.

I think you knew what I was saying. Don't need to make an argument out of a statement that was pretty easy to understand.

Good luck, I sent President Kelley and several other school leaders a very formal very professional letter last spring expressing my displeasure with him and the school, and never received a response of any sort. It was after the school came down hard on one of the sororities for a banner supporting the hockey team during the Frozen Four. Innocent banner, but because someone from the Indian building complained, the President chose to (AGAIN) bend over for political correctness (though this really shouldn't have been a sociopolitical issue) and publicly reprimand the sorority and its member. The lack of leadership from this guy is unbelievable. So happy he will be gone.

I'm not going to say that these quotes mean that we SHOULD remain UND, but the above quote should support that students, alumni and stakeholders should have at least had their voices heard. I have several friends who are athletes, and not a single one plays hockey," committee member and UND student Jazmyn Friesz said. "They just want to stay UND, not to bring back Fighting Sioux." Several athletes who want to remain North Dakota. Doesn't seem like they were represented here. Maybe those friends were in the minority, but I have my doubts. "Now I think is the time for some courage and the popular choice based on what was submitted during April, obviously to all of us, if you look at numbers, is 'North Dakota,' but popular isn't always the right choice," said Schweigert, a UND alumnus and committee member. As for Lowell, I don't know him but hear high praise of the kind of person and Alumni he is, BUT that doesn't warrant taking away the opportunity for all of the supporters to have their voice heard. Don't have to agree with me, but not allowing us to vote for a clearly popular choice, is not different that the Standing Rock Tribe not allowing their people to vote yes or no on the Sioux name in the first place. What you have is a small panel telling the public interest, "We know better than you, and it is what we want that counts". "North Dakota" received 21 points when the committee voted on the name with St. Peter awarding 8, the most, and Bahl awarding -8, the least. As for Landon Bahl, any student who is set to represent his constituents need to put personal bias aside. I understand not liking the concept of North Dakota, but to vote against letting you fellow students and alumni have a say in this process is wrong. Voting a -8 for an option that has clear public support, via message boards, online polls, letters to the editor (by know mean are these 100% accurate portrayals of public opinion, but they support the argument to a degree) is choosing to vote based on personal choice rather than as a representation of the student body. If you did not want the school to remain UND, you feel as though you won. If you do want the school to remain UND, you feel as though you lost (again). The bottom line is many people who have poured their hearts, souls, and money into this school were stripped of a chance to voice their opinion. Had UND been put on the ballot and lost to Roughriders, there would be far less people upset; but the committee chose to ultimately take this vote out of the public's hands. No vote at this point will portray an accurate representation of the Students, Alumni and Stakeholders as a whole. Rather it will portray a directional change aligning with the wants of one small committee.

Actually the Wild still have the worst nickname in the NHL. They could change it to something else tomorrow, and I wouldn't blink.

This biggest issue with that is the timing. If there were going to dump something that was so popular, it should have been done at the beginning, not dragged along through multiple stages of cuts. Poor execution by the commitee and President Kelly

There have been multiple sources, saying the committee is already set on North Stars, regardless of what happens going forward. Not saying those sources are all accurance; but all too often, when there is smoke, there is fire.

Also, putting TO in all caps doesn't give that sentence any additional significance.

Then President Kelly never should have said it was on the table at the beginning of the process, and the committee should have eliminated it immediately. When you leave it on the list throughout the entire process, then it was an option. You can't blame people for being upset, when one of the most (arguable THE most) popular option is eliminated during the last cut. You don't have to like that particular option, but with its popularity, and it being in contention up to this point, the ONLY reason to remove it now is that it doesn't align with what the committee members want.

This is so accurate. Extremely frustrating for many to have such a passionate opionion about something, then have the option yanked before they are even allowed to speak on it via vote. If this was going to be the case, the committee should have eliminated it from day 1. I think it is very clear the committee has their own agenda. Sad, and impossible to prove, but this entire process seems to have been somewhat of a show to create an illusion of allowing fans to have an impact on the future of the school's name.

This!!

Don't be so ignorant. If fans prefer staying UND or North Dakota, it automatically means they just don't want to get over the Fighting Sioux name? Nice generalization. Maybe a huge number of people actually prefer North Dakota, because the rest of the option are pretty pathetic. Fighting Hawk - very general, not really unique, pretty boring North Stars - Awesome name, for a team in the North Star state SunDogs - The ridiculous of this option does not need to be elaborated on NoDaks - very general, a moderate alternative to remaining just North Dakota Roughriders - name of the local high school, pobably the best option of the group, but still not great. Clearly some people still find this controversial. Maybe, just maybe, that is why many of us prefer remaining North Dakota. Regardless, the fact that the option was as popular as it was, and we aren't even allowed to get behind that option is ridiculous. The voices of a few highly liberal, politically correct extremists speaks for everyone ... again!