stoneySIOUX

Definitely don't disagree, but knowing we have two lockdown lines behind them, seeing one of those lines pop isn't a bad idea.

Right?? I really, really like that. I bet we see it early in the year.

I know they've been doing maintenance days for a lot of guys, so not sure if they are specifically hurt, or just taking a day off.

Forward lines today at practice: Costantini - Schmaltz - Blake James - McLaughlin - Gaber Caulfield - Jammer - Sendo Hain - Strinden - Portz Albrecht - Kunz These are 100% different than the lines yesterday, so don't look too hard into these. Fun to see some ideas, though. LOVE the 2nd and third line. Was also told to that apparently Hain tested off the charts with all the Iron Man stuff. Great to hear that.

FYP As long as they go in, my friend!!

When I went to UND, I worked on campaigns for fundraising and the question of why was always asked when people decided to not donate money, especially when they had previously donated. I am 100% positive that there is data out there that states why (if they have) they stopped giving or won't give to UND. I have not seen one story correlating the name change to a drop in donations. If there was one, the Herald would be all over it, IMO. So, I don't think any of this silly infighting has led to anything negative specifically hurting UND. So, do I think it's positive that a massive chunk of people hate the logo/name? Absolutely not. But, that happens with every name change everywhere. My guess is there's WAY more people talking smoke than there are that have actually stopped donating. Or, those talking smoke never donated before/aren't alumni and would never have donated. It's all a matter of time. Many will never "get over it" but the overwhelming majority will. We're just in that awkward time period, IMO. Best way to avoid it? Stay off the cancer that is social media lol. (This doesn't count ) Also, keep supporting UND no matter what like most of us do!

See Penn State versus DU

All sports do. I think it's about balance of the "student athlete" kind of thing.

I say it's ok for you to say "we" and anyone who disagrees with us is a jerk

Definitely not arguing that any of that is positive. Frankly, it's just flat out stupid. However, just because this happens, doesn't mean many are stopping their support of UND because of it. Some people like the logo, some don't. Wish we'd all just chill the eff out. With all of that said, I just have yet to see anything truly negative (ie. Dropping donor support, lack of attendance) happen because of this stupid tiff.

I agree with this. Hoping the influx of forwards will get this going, like we all are.

Hahahahaha jeebus.

It's not controversy, man. All sides just need to be less dickheads to each other. It's that simple. We all cheer for UND.

No worries, man. I didn't think you did. Civil discussion is cool with me haha. That is a shame that that crap happens. Super stupid. However, I don't see what "damage" it really does to the University.

Fair enough. I clarified in my post just before this... it's not the "Hawks Only" group.... it's an anti-Sioux forever group. Basically a group of people who rip on Sioux Forever people and call them dumb/idiots/etc. I've never seen what damage the "Sioux Forever" crowd does or ever has done. I've heard all the logic of why this group thinks the "Sioux Forever" crowd is hurting UND, but can never get anyone to show me a lick of proof about it. In the end, I think long term it'll just fade away and people will just let FH be the name and embrace it. The crowd that shouts at the "Sioux Forever" crowd for being idiots only causes those idiots to dig in deeper.

We've gone over this before, man. You're screaming into the wind. NO ONE disagrees with this. This is part of what is causing the divisiveness. Some people think the ones that don't like the name are all clumped into this group that have the fantasy that the Sioux name is coming back. This is NOT the case. The largest part of this crowd consists of people who just don't like the name/love Sioux too much to let it go and choose to avoid buying Hawks gear. The group of "it's the reality, get over it" constantly barrages the "Sioux Forever" crowd. Remember ... the middle is where most lie. I was here back then, too. It's basically the same LOL.

It's not just him, it's the stuff he just said. Pointing at the other guy of the "aisle" and saying, you're wrong and you're dumb. If we all just settle the eff down and let each other have a flipping opinion, we'd all be better off. It's the constant polarization of the "Sioux Forever" and the "Hawks Only" groups that causes pain.

Sorry man.... this crap is also what is hurting our University....

We've beat the dead horse that was currently beating the dead horse.

We all have our Anti-Big 10 bias

Fair point, Sic. We'll see. With that said, I am supremely confident of the D in front of him. I am expecting DeRidder to be a very, very good addition.

What's unproven about him? That he hasn't played at UND? The Big 10 is a mediocre defensive conference, but a solid offensive one. His numbers are pretty good playing against teams that are absolutely gunning night in and night out. Again, I know for a fact he's never played behind a defense he is going to play behind this season. There's been nothing to indicate he can't be a solid, solid tendy for UND.

DeRidder is very much a proven goaltender. Kid has seen A LOT of rubber in his NCAA career. He will also have the best defense he's ever had in front of him. Feels like he's even more proven than Cam was in 2016. He was the supposed Achilles heel that year, too.

I am not one to ever say this, but this is a team that has every piece of the puzzle.

Yep, yep. And for context, since 2000-2001, we've had: 3 captains -- 9 times 4 captains -- 9 times 5 -- 3 times 6 - 1 time (2016) Definitely not uncommon anymore to have more than 3.