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That article is 14 months old and I can't find anything confirming or even a passing mention that it has made any headway since then.

And I'm sure sure the 20,000 (!!!) post thread about UND on the MooU board is full of stuff that affects Ndsu...

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this but if I remember correctly, part of the reason it got cut was with how the budget cuts were allocated. While I'm not sure the course was actually profitable each year (though very close to break-even one way or another), when looking at the budgets, it was about a $300K line item that is pretty non-essential to the mission of the University (much more so than housing or dining), especially when the golf teams don't even utilize it. And that number is the annual operating costs and wouldn't include any upgrades or capital needs of the course. Closing it didn't really move the needle one way or another on the profit side, it does make an impact in terms of cutting a percentage of revenues/budgeted funds, which is what the state mandated cuts were based off of. Also, to be clear, only 25% of the land the golf course sat on was gifted to the University, the remaining 75% was purchased. I don't know what land prices were in 1962 and whether it was sold at a discount, but UND paid $300 acre for 75% of the land, with the remainder being given. What's interesting is the current size of the course is only 67.5 acres, much smaller than the original 150 acres.

The appeal was denied on Wednesday before the team left, which is why he didn't travel.

Denver only cares about Denver. They moved into a conference that didn't require them to change their sports offerings. They preferred to move to the West Coast Conference but that would have required them to add sports which would have bloated their athletic budget. The Summit didn't care and Denver wasn't sticking around the WAC with the band of misfits. It is a safe bet that they didn't make a decision in late 2012 to join the Summit because they knew UND going to join it 6 years later and just 2 years after UND announced it was joining the Big Sky. Nov, 2010 - UND accepted into Big Sky July, 2012 - UND officially a Big Sky member ????? - Denver realizes UND isn't going FBS in the Big Sky, but instead joining the Summit and will go FBS with that league Nov, 2012 - Denver accepted in Summit July, 2013 - Denver officially a Summit member January, 2017 - UND accepted into Summit July, 2018 - UND officially a Summit member

Is he part of the same group of guys who wrote a nice big fluff piece about the hiring of a new assistant coach shortly after he was hired and then failed to mention the DUI he got in between getting hired and the article being written which was a span of a few weeks? Or same group who failed to report a player being charged with Disorderly Conduct/Fighting the night of a quarterfinal game and then being allowed to play in the semis and finals? They did manage a quick comment that he was suspended for the season opener this year against Cal Poly but gave zero details on why other than "in house punishment". Yeah, sounds like a group that is all over reporting things like this. Both of the above examples are public record if you don't believe me. You're about 10 years behind on how things are handled. The Fargo media is scared to death to lose access like they were threatened with under Bohl and they've continued on, holding back plenty of stories or doing minimal reporting by just stating it was an "in-house punishment" or "violation of team rules" with no details on why. I'll concede that there are times, that is the most information you are going to get or at least able to go public with, but when your employer has the reports that have the reasons on them and you ignore it, it is intentional.

That's your opinion and nothing more. You don't think it's strange that an internet reporter was the one who "broke" the story shortly before game time when at least one player, who was a starter, didn't even make the trip? The team had been there since Thursday and Forum Communications had multiple reporters there the whole time and just happened not to notice. That's besides hearing that at least one or two reporters flat out knew and chose not to report it.

So players are taking substances that are on the list without pepper paperwork? Interesting angle to take, nothing to see I guess, just a clerical error with multiple players.

The banned stimulant list isn't ambiguous at all actually...

Well then that's changed. I know that early in this current run, there were games against some big time programs turned down for various reasons.

I think the first point is valid as both of you seem to be saying to very similar, but slightly different things. In any given year, the FCS champion and many other FCS schools are better than quite a few FBS schools (and sometimes more than quite a few). But to the general public, that is what playing for the FCS Championship represents, not how good the teams are but what "place" they are playing for. There is absolutely no argument that FCS is a second tier, it just is. I'm not saying that in a denigrating way, its just reality. Doesn't mean there isn't some very good football played, a lot of it at an equal or higher level than the lower half of the first tier, but it is still a second tier overall.

Didn't have to scroll down far for the first reply from an NDSU fan complaining.

Pretty sure at NDSU, they only need to cover around 2/3's of what the men's tab is.

I'm sure it is a tradition and I have no issue with that, hope have a blast, they definitely deserve it. I'm talking about the part where they are openly pandering on social media by the players asking for donations to cover their tab. Do you really think that athletic department is supportive of that portion of the message?

Wonder what Matt Larsen thinks of his outgoing senior players pandering for money on social media to cover an upcoming bar tab? No issue with the players having a good time to celebrate the end of a career, however asking fans on social media to donate to the cause isn't a good look.

McLaughlin was a Hobey finalist last year and is on pace to exceed his production from last year.

Waiting for a year when a school doesn't have it's "best" recruiting class in the school's history.

Probably the same as your continued presence here.

Thought it was amusing when Klieman thanked the media yesterday. Probably appropriate considering how many stories they sat on for him. Don't want to lose access or anything like that, Bohl set a nice precedent there. He's in for a rude awakening in Manhattan.

So early enough that the player(s) didn't travel with the team but the half dozen Forum Communications reporters that were there had to let someone else break the story right before game time.

Interesting.....If that's the case why is are internet reporters saying that it wasn't completely his fault?

I mean, they literally sat on what they knew, finally letting an internet reporter break that one of the players wasn't playing, before they even acknowledged it. Even then they didn't say anything other than the player didn't travel. So yeah, I'm sure they are all over it. Strange how there is so much interest when other teams players or coaches are suspended though...

"We can't outspend everyone so we can't win." Sounds like they might not be able to use their "special shakes" anymore either, wonder how many players were taking those that didn't get tested?

Wonder why this hasn't been floating around social media this week.....? Oh wait, wouldn't want to ruin anyone's delusions of grandeur. I mean it's Klieman's last game at NDSU, because apparently a coach's last game is part of the reason a ticket price should be higher. This doesn't even show two different sorting methods to completely distort the truth! Tweet for reference

I'll preface by saying the reports that these are based off of having a lot of room for discretion in them on how things are categorized. And NDSU doesn't make their report public as far as I have ever seen, so tough to actually see what is going on. On top of that, NDSU is currently at a lower subsidy rate than UND is (though once you make adjustments for UND's surplus and NDSU having to cover the deficit with internal funds, they are pretty dang close), however UND had the approval from students to have that high of usage for student fees. Looking back, wasn't a coincidence on timing for NDSU to try to raise their student fees before being shot down (ultimately trading a section of seating for leaving fees the same). UND's numbers should continue to improve as some of the expenses for cut sports are still being worked through but there was a nice improvement in results. UND's positive results are almost a complete wash that makes up for the negative results in 2016/17. NDSU is the exact opposite, showed really strong results in 2016/17 and then flipped the past year. Again, without the data, tough to see what actually is going on. http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances