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I didn't say anything one way or another. Since Jones' record had been put out there and we are apparently comparing the men's and women's teams, just though Brewster's record should also be shown. And Brewster has been on staff since 2008-2009 and was in charge of recruiting while Roebuck was here. Don't try to pretend he had nothing to do with the roster make-up before he became head coach. It was no secret that he was going to be the one to replace Gene and he was given responsibilities in line with that.

Travis Brewster is 21-19 in the Big Sky and 31-27 overall.

You are correct, blanked on that for some reason. On another note, Weber hasn't won the conference tournament and went dancing since 2007, which was their current coach's first year. Talk about a cold streak for a school who puts that much emphasis on basketball. Yet oddly enough, I don't see a "Fire Rahe" thread on their message board, or at least one with any current activity.

Third Fourth Fifth times a charm?

Feel free to point out where I previously stated anything along those lines. But since you brought it up, in 2011 and 2012, it was all the team had to play for and they earned an auto-bid both years, so yeah, I was proud that those teams achieved that goal. Not sure how you wanted them to earn something that wasn't available? Last year, the team finished higher than any first year team in the Big Sky had previously and took the eventual champions to the wire in the semi's. Would have loved to see them pull off the upset and take on Montana in the championship game, but Weber was a better team. UND's performance was recognized with a bid to a postseason tournament, seems a lot better than the alternative of sitting at home.

You are using that word quite liberally by using it to describe some of his arguments. No one is denying last night's game was unacceptable, but some people need to take a step back and fight the urge to run to their computer to demand someone lose their job everytime they see a result they don't like.

So because you said the women could beat the men, it proves they are horrible? The men finished 3rd for the second year in a row, you make it sound like they finished dead last. In conference play, the women were 6-4 on the road and the men were 4-6, not exactly the huge disparity you are trying to make it out to be.

Yeah, you sound genuinely curious....

From how excited you get to bump this thread, I have a hard time figuring out what is and isn't sarcastic. And yes, I guess if we are looking at one year periods, the women are outperforming the men. But I guess that means Brewster should have been fired last year since the men outperformed the women? One has very little to do with the other. Jones won the tournament the last two years in the GWC, so there are two conference tournament championships you are leaving out. Yeah, they were in the Great West, but guess at that point, I'm not sure what other tournament you are going to argue they could win. I guess if we are looking at what he has done in the Big Sky, he's 0-2 in regular season titles (with two 3rd place finishes) and currently 0-1 in post-season titles (losing to the eventually champs in the semi's).

We all do. And I don't know how much longer Jones will be employed but if you think that the ultimatum next year is to win the BSC tourney or be fired with what will be two years remaining on his contract, you are wrong (unless of course you plan on writing a check to make it happen, then be all means, speculate away). There is a lot more that will play into it than that. In fact, with what UND is losing after this year and what some of the other teams are returning, going dancing next year would be a pretty amazing feat. I rest my case about you being delusional. And what about last year, did Brewster not know how to control his players?

You are delusional if you think that.

He'll have to be a contributer next year. I've think his strength will always be on the defensive end and he has the ability to guard guys bigger than him which helps. Be nice if he could develop a corner 3 shot or something along those lines.

Guessing he'll hear about it while sitting next to his pool in Arizona.

I didn't get to see the first half and part of the second half, did we revert back to playground ball instead of a team game? I know you aren't going to win many games shooting 36% and going 2-19 from 3 while the opposing team shoots over 50%. I'm guessing Jones was trying to send some sort of message with Hobaugh in there the last couple of minutes and some of the starters on the bench. Hopefully it clicks or alot of these guys only have one game left in their career at UND.

Depends on what UM does. UND will be the 2 or 3 seed, but I would guess 3 after tonight. No real difference other than who ends up getting the 6/7 seeds and that is far from being decided. Flat out embarrassing loss. Remember that it and win the next 3, all will be forgotten.

2 point game. 24 seconds remain.

Dustin Hobaugh appearance? Looks like Jones got fed up and benched some guys for the stretch? Making a point before the conference tournament I guess. 5 point game with 34 seconds left. UND with 1 free throw to shoot. Free throw made. UND down 4 with 30 seconds to go.

UND favored by 9.5 on the road. Seems like a fair asessment. I'd like to see them put the game away early and not let SUU back into it.

You clearly have better sources than gfhockey then.

Completely agree, just didn't want people to overreact if UND doesn't win tomorrow against another very good team. Though judging from past threads, probably isn't anything to worry about...

I believe that UND clinches the tournament at the Betty in any of the following scenarios occur: -UND beats SUU on 3/6 -UNC beats SUU on 3/8 -EWU beats either ISU or WSU -SAC loses to either MON or MSU There are a few other more complicated ones that involve more tie-breakers, but those are the simplest ones. For them not to host, I believe all of the following would have to occur: -SUU beats both UND and UNC to bring their record to 15-5 -EWU loses to ISU and WSU -SAC beats both MON and MUS That would move SAC into 3rd or 4th place and the tiebreaker would be in SUU's favor (MON does not fall in UND or SUU's favor so whether they finish 3rd or 4th doesn't matter).

Midco announced it earlier this morning on their Facebook page and Twitter. Starting at 11am today going through Saturday night.

In a nutshell, RPI is made up of (1) 25% - your win/loss record directly, (2) 50% - your Opponent's Win/Loss and (3) 25% - your Opponent's Opponent's Win/Loss. The team being looked at also falls into the Opponent's Opponent's Win/Loss as well, so that compounds the problem when you aren't doing well. There are adjusters for home/road/neutral games. Due to a lot of variables not relying on the team being measured, you can help inflate it by playing higher ranked teams, especially those in power conferences, whether you win or lose (you are better off losing on the road though). Southern Utah has played some higher ranked teams than Presbyterian, so it helps move up their RPI, even though they don't have a win. It is also why people who point to it as how good a team is are only partially correct. The selection committee takes a good look at actual records against top 50 and top 100 teams, not just whether or not you've played them. The biggest dings against UND this year are losing to Cal Poly on a neutral floor, PSU and Sac on the road and MSU and SDSU at home.

In terms of actual people in attenance, I would guess it is pretty close to that. If the girls lock up the tournament at the Betty and make some noise, I think it will carry over nicely into next year.

Some interesting numbers from the game last night: In the first half, UND shoots better from the field (79%, 19-24) than the the free throw line (78%, 14-18) UNC shoots 60% for the game slightly outpacing UND's 58% UND doubled up UNC on both the offensive glass (13-6) and overall (33-16) UND outscore UNC in the paint 42-38 Three pointers didn't fall in the second half for UND (0-5) after looking good in the first half (4-6) As the end of February turns into the beginning of March, Brian Jones has his team playing its best basketball of the season. Again. That is 4 wins in a row. Just need 4 more...