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No arguments, just threw them in there because they were "ranked" as the top value. And that their average grants/scholarships exceeded their average tuition and I find that amusing..

No argument, its a problem across higher ed. Here are the actual numbers used with #1 overall University of Michigan added in for good measure: Avg. Scholarships/Grants: NDSU - $4,754 UND - $4,432 UM - $13,992 Avg. Starting Salary: NDSU - $48,300 UND - $45,700 UM - $54,000 College Tuition: NDSU - $7,353 UND - $7,254 UM - $12,994 Student Living Costs: NDSU - $11,604 UND - $13,800 UM - $12,854 Student Retention Rate: NDSU - 78% UND - 75% UM - 97% Not sure where they got all of their numbers other than the starting salaries, which is collected by voluntary surveys. Actual respondents used to come up with the salary data were 343 for NDSU and 266 for UND with no time frame given. So real scientific and stuff. Also interesting that UM is the best value, probably doesn't hurt that their average scholarships and grants somehow exceed college tuition.

I guess giving away that much in tuition waivers and grants really has its advantages.

And obviously since no one can actually answer this question, the clear answer to is fire the coach!!

Your clueless. Maybe NDSU can finally pay off the locker room renovation that was supposed to be paid for 10 or so years ago?

UND has to continuously allocate resources towards the nickname issue (which a portion of come from the state of ND). The more it comes up, the more resources they have to spend on it. The issue continues to be used against UND in recruiting with the constant threat of them being put back on the sanctions list. It doesn't matter whether its true or not, it is still a negative that other schools are using against UND and will continue to until the whole thing is put to bed. Whoever is behind the campaign is spending both time and money on this. If they really cared about the University of North Dakota (or any other cause for that matter), putting those resources towards that would do a lot more good than fighting a battle that was lost long ago. Even if Spirit Lake and Standing Rock where to finally document their approval and even if the NCAA were to accept it (neither of which I can see happening), it is still time to move on. Tribal politics have proven to be very fluid and all it takes is a new tribal council to come into power on one of the reservations and decide they don't care for the nickname and revoke their approval. UND is then back to square one.

Hak will be extended or fired before he ever coaches into the last year of his contract unless he has personally made it clear that he is done following the season. Defending a poster who has been banned multiple times and who's purpose 99% of the time is to be to derail and train wreck threads is pretty amusing. I don't think he's a moron, I think he just plays one on here.

You mean the basketball game that continues to be both the highest priced and attended on NDSU's home schedule?

Then why the premium on the game?

At this point it is nothing more than a futile effort wasting both time and money, resources that could be much better spent elsewhere. There will always be people who want to continue fighting a lost battle and that is their prerogative but I'd prefer they don't do it at the expense of the University of North Dakota and its athletic department, which is what they are trying to do.

An extra million? Your math is a little off. This will likely only affect single game tickets, which last I heard is somewhere around 4,000. Though it would be a cherry on top if the raised their season tickets in 2015 and 2019 and further stuck it to their own fan base, a group who we keep being told by and large don't want the game (though I don't believe it for one second). I'll give you that UND took a lower guarantee than they should have with the stipulation that the net money they receive won't be far off from what they could get elsewhere due to limited travel costs required for the game, meaning FU ended up with the savings. Bubba insisted on the game(s) and he got them. Going to be a good test to see where his defense stacks up and how far the offense has come. Being the third game of the season, most of the small kinks will hopefully be ironed out.

First an unscheduled press conference to announce the games and now this: 9/12 - Weber State - $35 / $25 9/19 - North Dakota - $60 / $50 10/10 - Northern Iowa (Homecoming) - $40 / $30 10/17 - South Dakota - $35 / $25 11/7 - Western Illinois - $35 / $25 11/21 - Missouri State - $35 / $25 But remember folks, its no big deal to them, they were just filling an open date. And before the FU mensa club comes by and states they are just looking to gouge UND fans, NDSU is looking at giving Teammakers who don't have season tickets first crack at a good sized portion of single game tickets, it will be their own fans paying the "inflated" price for an unimportant out of conference game.

It makes a lot more sense when looking at it that way. Basically saying his mind will be made up sooner than later and he won't string everyone along until past June 1 to see what other teams might offer him.

Does it possibly provide a little insight? If he does come back, doesn't Boston lose his rights on June 1 this year? If he did come back would he really only negotiate with Boston after he graduates next year? Seems odd that he would limit himself unless he really feels some loyalty to Boston (which is very possible).

I believe it was originally only a 30 year lease but everything else is correct (to my knowledge that part hasn't been modified). UND maintains control of the underlying land but the building itself is owned under the non-profit UND Sports Facilities Inc. There's so many misconceptions about the REA they should just put a FAQ up on their website.

UND owns the land the REA is on along with everything in front of it from Gateway to 6th Ave except for where the fire station is. I believe they also still own the land where all the condos behind the REA are plus the Wellness Center.

The issue is that as a UDFA, sometimes you have to sign while you can, especially if its a good offer. No guarantees those same offers will be there next year for a variety of reasons (performance, injury, etc). Chances are you end up in the minors somewhere, but you have a contract and a chance. Those aren't guaranteed if you come back to school.

Or a couple decades. Hopefully this will keep people busy while those looking out for the best interests of the University and athletic department as a whole move on and put a new nickname in place. Still can't figure out why people don't understand that's the point we are at, regardless of how it came to be. The Fighting Sioux nickname and logo isn't coming back and the University won't be able to fully move on until a new nickname is in place.

Just want to point out that Izzo and Michigan St. currently have the #2 ranked recruiting class for 2015, his third top 10 class in the last 6 years. Won't argue with his ability to develop players and seemingly getting more out of those that weren't highly ranked, but he has definitely had talent as well.

Not sure how I missed that one, but you are correct. Roche and Johnson played two years but both of those were under Blais.

Oh this is going to be good.... Wish you would have had this turned on Thursday night!!

So what are you trying to say then? Because there are some kids who come through the program who don't stay four full years, they aren't contributing? Or they aren't concerned with winning? Or UND would be better off without them? Who was the last player to only play for one year at UND? Toews, Parise, Zajac and Nelson (thanks 90siouxfan) are the only three four off the top of my head that only played two and then left for the NHL but maybe I'm missing one or two. Not sure how UND would have been better off without them. Murray and Spirko went overseas after two seasons. The majority of the schools who are regularly in the hunt, including those who have won the national title, have kids that leave early. I guess Boston would have won the national title if they wouldn't have recruited Eichel because he's only concerned about being drafted in the top two and going pro next season? In basketball and football it happens all the time with the top teams so I have a hard time buying it as a reason for the results. Still waiting for fs4l to explain his agreement on this.

Would love to hear which players you think didn't put it all on the line while wearing a UND sweater. Should be easy since you both feel there are lots of them.

Heard that due to being on campus, tailgating won't be a big event. Hoping they still put something together to help encourage people to come out.

There was more to Rocky moving on then his on the field results but how ever you need to mold the story to help your cause.