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Weird how NDSU fans and staff seem to be the ones embarssed about it. But just another game on the schedule. Have they said it enough times to convince themselves of it yet?

Red River spells it Roughriders and uses Roosevelt imagery as do the Frisco RoughRiders (who seem to use a hybrid spelling of the two, one word but capitalize both R's). Also, the committee has the power to make slight adjustments as they see fit to any remaining finalists (such as changing "North Stars" to "Stars", etc)

Not to mention it was a one line snippet from a multiple hour meeting. Guessing KG said a lot of things that could be interpreted many ways when they are presented with little to no context.

Correct. Just clarifying that North Dakota didn't officially adopt it until 1911.

The Roughrider unit formed in 1898. North Dakota adopted their flag in 1911.

Sure there'd be some additional TV Revenues to help bridge the current $48 million gap between them and Iowa State (lowest budget Big12 team) but I'm kind of thinking that since $25 million of that is in ticket sales/contributions (120% of NDSU's current total athletic department budget) is kind of a gaping wound that has no possible way to be filled....

Tim Ryan - 5'11" FS out of Huntley, IL Evan Holm - 6' CB/WR out of Edina, MN Jordan Canady - 6'2" WR out of New Berlin, WI Alonzo Addae - 6' CB/WR out of Beaverton, OR

Condolences to his family and friends. I know there is a handful of former players that read and post here, some who played with Travis, sorry for your loss.

I'm already seeing and hearing excuses and claims of how UND will play dirty. Also a handful of #hottakes on some plays from the Montana game from last year from a bunch of geniuses who didn't see a single second of the game. What a bunch of garbage. Glad Schmidt's defense already has the fans thinking about a physical game. Can't wait to see what he has drawn up to bring pressure out of the 3-4.

Title IX is about opportunities, something NDSU feels no need to offer at a proportionate rate for women. But whatever helps you actually avoid the issue. 129 women vs. 282 men. Participation rank of 340 out of 347 Division 1 schools. Those are facts.

Then why the preemptive defense? I haven't seen any other school put out a disclaimer like that. I know they use different prongs, but the U of M is getting investigated and their participation rate for women far exceeds NDSU. Are you saying a ratio of 2.2 opportunities for men for every 1 opportunity for women is something to be proud of? Yes, I'm sure scholarships and not having to pay for their own equipment and travel is something they definitely would not be interested in.

Small clarification, No. 3 senior QB. Still incredibly impressive.

1 year as player. Or are you just embarrassed because you whiffed 3 or 4 different times on who the new assistant was going to be?

I blame Padilla.

Just want to make sure I understand your stance: You are basically saying the only nickname that should ever be acceptable to be used at the University of North Dakota is Fighting Sioux and if that isn't possible there should never be another one chosen?

"No nickname" was 2 votes out of 11 from being completely removed from consideration, it is possible that there is hope it just goes away naturally and there is no need to get the NCAA involved in the situation at all. And honestly, if the NCAA has spoken on the matter and given their blessing for "no nickname" (and I personally don't think they have), what's the best case answer they could actually give - "Sure, its fine today but we continue to reserve the right to change our mind and policies at any point".

I'd rephrase it to "Why don't you want a nickname?". UND always has been and always will be North Dakota regardless of what nickname is chosen.

I guess I'm not sure what doesn't make sense to you. Hakstol seemed to understand it when he came out publicly in favor of retiring the nickname because of the challenges it caused for the athletic department, some of which still continue to exist because the issue still isn't resolved. Hockey is one of the sports that would be least affected by any issues and even so, they have a $100+ million state of the art arena to fallback on. You aren't comparing apples to apples. Just because it doesn't have a huge effect on hockey doesn't mean it isn't an issue within the rest of the athletic department. But I guess the other programs just need to recruit better. You know what would make that easier? Not having to deal with the nickname issue in additional to the typical BS stuff they (and all other coaches) go up against.

There is an opposing coach on record saying that it was used against UND. There is a former UND head coach saying it was used against them. Your argument is that since no one has said anything in the media the last couple years that means it has stopped despite the nickname issue still being unresolved? UND coaches aren't going to continuously bring it up because all schools have various things used against them in recruiting and this is part of the hand they've been dealt (though on the surface, it should be a resolvable one). I guess I'm not sure what you're looking for in terms of proof of it and whether or not you want to believe it or just pretend it doesn't exist is your prerogative. But if someone is going to claim that the nickname issue hasn't, doesn't or won't have any bearing on what happens on the field, they are wrong.

Are you looking for a yearly update from opposing coaches saying "Yep, still bringing up that train wreck of a nickname mess"? Or are you going off the assumption that that since once the nickname was dropped, that clearly resolved the issue and every opposing coach decided it wasn't worth bringing up anymore?

It is continuously used against UND on the recruiting trail. Whether what opposing coaches are telling recruits is true or not doesn't matter, what matters is it is another way to put doubt in recruits mind that there could be some sort of instability or future consequences down the road. This was especially true when UND didn't have a conference and was looking for one or were facing possible sanctions, but have continued on because the matter isn't settled. It will continue to be so until the nickname issue is put to bed. Choosing "no nickname" doesn't do this.

Last I heard, they were actually still a little short on Phase 1, but enough that the UND Foundation was able to guarantee it. The amount did not seem to be a huge concern and was small enough that they felt comfortable going ahead and starting the process of having Phase 2 approved.

Not sure what misconceptions there is about having the 8th worst women's participation rate out of 347 Division 1 schools. But I guess they add the caveat "NDSU Offers a wide variety of athletic opportunities for its students at the varsity, club, intramural and recreational levels. NDSU diligently monitors its students’ athletic interests so its athletic offerings can continue to meet its students’ needs." Weird they feel the need to preemptively defend it...

Would you feel the same way if UND was still able to use Fighting Sioux? Or should we only be "unique, confident, self-identified" if we can't have a nickname that people seem to have an irrational attachment to?

I posted about some fairly common examples I've seen on social media of people's claims, I didn't say that everyone who is in favor of no nickname was going to quit donating or quit cheering for UND, that subset of people don't have UND's best interest in mind regardless. There are people that have other reasons for wanting "no nickname" but from conversations I've had and reading social media, the large majority of those I've seen advocating for "no nickname" are doing it so they can keep the Fighting Sioux nickname as the de facto nickname. Its not like its a big secret or something only I'm thinking: -"Saying we're going to be North Dakota to me means saying we're going to stay the Fighting Sioux" - Nickname committee, Chelsea Moser -Majority of public wanted North Dakota as nickname but many are just mad about Sioux logo retirement. - Nickname committee member Carla Christofferson -“I like North Dakota because we're indefinitely the Sioux,” said another UND student