Bison06

I’ve never heard one single NDSU fan who knows the slightest bit about college football think we could actually compete with the blue bloods. I think they could definitely become a G5 powerhouse like a Boise State though.

Sometimes making a list like that early in the season isn’t a sincere attempt to say a guy has a legitimate chance to win the award, but more of the writer’s “tip of the cap” to a guy and a program that the writer is impressed by. So, it’s not ridiculous. NDSU, like it or not, has had better QB play than nearly every FBS school for the last 6 years and Trey looks to be continuing that trend. Laugh at that if you like, but the NFL scouts would disagree with you.

Not sure on Columbia, but here’s a link for his recruiting page. https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Trey-Lance-96865/RecruitInterests/ I’m no expert in college rankings, but it would seem to me that if Cornell and Brown offered him, academically it isn’t a stretch that Columbia could have. And certainly would be more than qualified to attend either NDSU or UND.

Lance is a special athlete. Frankly, I’m amazed he ended up at NDSU. After watching the Gophers against SDSU, I think he’s possibly better than anybody on the Gophers roster. We’ll see how the season plays out, but he certainly didn’t look like a freshman. Physically or mentally. *disclaimer, it was against Butler.

Because this is often a hotly debated topic, quick question as a point of clarification. What do you mean by “the field got much more competitive?”

Pappy 23 year, I wish.

I’m not sure why a little back and forth always leads to these types of comments. I can’t speak for others, but I don’t come here because of any insecurities or inferiority complex. You honestly don’t find it more fun and entertaining with opinions that don’t follow the party line? I stopped posting on Bisonville years ago, because it isn’t fun to have discussions if everybody agrees and anything other than the company narrative is met with insults. Personal insults. I’ll be the first here to congratulate your fans if you pull an upset this weekend. After I drink away my sorrows of course.

Thank you!

But seriously, why did you quote my post and then respond in a way that had nothing to do with my post?

I’m not following your meaning.

Rocky Hagar hasn’t walked the halls in 25 years, it’s a new era. If you asked guys even back when I played, 15 years ago, I’d be willing to bet only a few would have known who Rocky Hagar was. To be clear, from someone who has been on the inside of NDSU football, when we talk tradition and values and respecting the guys that came before you and laid the foundation, those conversations do not revolve around specific players in those eras or specific opponents. NDSU football minimizes the individual players and elevates the team and the preparation to win. I can’t remember a single time a coach talked about a specific former player and a specific game in NDSU lore, but we talked about the sacrifice and the tradition all the time. If I didn’t grow up an NDSU fan, Rocky Hagar would have just been a picture on the wall in the locker room to me.

I’ll click around the interwebs a bit and see what I can find.

That’s what I was hoping to see, Pluto tv the only way huh?

I think your last paragraph outlines perfectly how most NDSU fans feel about this game. I believe it’s going to take UND beating NDSU for NDSU fans to truly feel like the rivalry is back.

That is a time long-gone. We could go 7-4, with losses to UND, SDSU, UNI and USD, eek into the playoffs and if NDSU somehow got on a run and won the championship after that regular season, the fan base would only be more excited about it. ”Even on our down years, we still know how to win when it really counts” would be the narrative out of Fargo.

I couldn’t care less if the players know about the history between NDSU and UND. I guess we can just agree to disagree on this one.

Why wouldn’t you want that player? The history between NDSU and UND in football happened mostly before they were born. I don’t require my favorite team’s players to be historians to be on my team. Not that they ask me about recruiting

Is there somewhere I can watch UND vs Drake online?

I’ve never seen a fan base respond so casually to their starting QB going down. Must speak very well to how much you all trust the backup.

Smh

I agree with everything you just said. But that still doesn’t address my question as to why the players would in any way see this as a rivalry game.

Why is the obvious distinction I’m making in this conversation being ignored? To the players!!!!!! I don’t believe they see it as a rivalry...yet.

I bet if you asked your teammates from ND what it meant the first time, they’d have a different answer.

I agree, this needs to be a trophy game. Best outcome for me, bring back the Nickle, but if that can’t happen, let’s start a new tradition with a new trophy.

I disagree with rivalries being more for the fans. If you’ve played in a true rivalry game, it’s much, much different on the field.