nd1sufan

Not really. Just having some fun.

Yep. Nobody would notice if a a kid wasn't playing in a playoff game and the media wouldn't wonder why. And you are absolutely correct. UND would be wasting money they don't have in the FB budget with piss tests. They have no risk of an NCAA test and the Englestads would take it out of the coaches salary budget it they did the testing.

This is a PWO offer over D2 scholly money since D2's cant offer PWO. But if it makes you feel good go for it. NDSU has developed PWO's into NFL players. It is what good football programs do. Develop kids into better football players. Check out Gopherhole and see how many UND scholarship signees and commits in the past few years, including this year, have only D2 offers as other offers.

The situation UND is in now is nothing like the D2 days in the 90's. Nobody cares about D2 FB. Who won the last 5 D2 titles? Don't google it, Nobody knows or cares. HS FB players know about NDSU's run, and not just kids in the region, even kids outside the region. Kids know about the NDSU QB that just signed a $128 million contract and they currently have 10 players in NFL camps. When your top in state commit says one of the best things about playing at UND is they get to play against NDSU every year, it isn't a good sign for UND. But UND can tell recruits they won a D2 title 20 years ago. And they had an TE go to the NFL 20 years ago. That always plays well with kids.

UND doesn't have to test their players. They are in no danger of getting tested by the NCAA. You actually have to win a playoff game to get tested...

You just haven't been on this forum enough. UND FB coaches are just so far ahead of other coaches in evaluating talent. Even though the kids commit with no other offers, they have to hold on with pins and needles until signing day because every other FCS school, led by NDSU, comes in at the end with huge offers to try to pry them away from UND. It happens every year. Just ask the UND360 guys. It is hard to argue they are wrong with the results Bubba has been utting up...

When they signed JJ, Bubba said he there were enough touches to go around and he would be in the mix immediately. JJ got touches only in mop up duty the first year. I know for a fact he went to UND because he was promised more from Bubba than from Klieman, both in money and opportunity.

What do you call the best athlete by far? Speed? Strength? Quickness? Klein not the best in any of these. Maybe you are saying he is the tallest WR. I will give you that.

what are you talking about?

how about the year before?

Satter would run right by Klein for one.

They were beaten by a BCS FBS school. They didn't offer him as a transfer, They told him the truth. He could walk on but they had no scholarship for him and he would probably be 4th or 5th on the depth chart. Even behind his old teammate at South. He chose to take the money and bought the garbage Bubba sold him about getting him the ball even with Santiago and Olivera.

NDSU recruits the state of ND hard every year. They offer kids they think can help them. They haven't been beaten on a ND kid by another FCS school in many years. I am not sure what you are calling "destroyed". Maybe the definition of UND FB destroying others in FB recruiting is getting ND kids nobody else offered. In that case, I guess you are right.

I have seen Klein play. He is not the best athlete in this class...by a wide margin...

Absolutely! Look at all of the UND commits that have NDSU offers! NDSU is lucky to get kids with NSIC offers now.

NDSU could go FBS today with the Fargodome without making any increases in seating. The Fargodome meets the minimum standard for FBS capacity and they probably have more FB ticket revenue than a great majority of the G5 FBS schools while they are still in the FCS. They charge as much for a ticket than the bottom third of the Big 10. UND on the other hand would have to get creative with having a "home" game at a power 5 away stadium to work the attendance numbers to qualify. I am not saying NDSU is going FBS anytime soon, but they could with the Fargodome as is.

But all used to hear from UND fans is "we compete against Minnesota, Wisconsin," ... Not Miami of OH, W. Mich, St. Cloud, CC... If the Pig Ten had extended an offer at the split, The Big Ten commissioner wouldn't have been able to complete extending the offer before Faison would have accepted. He would have been lynched by UND hockey fans if he would have turned down an offer to go with the U of M and Wisconsin. You can say all you want about the NCHC is a better conference than the Big 10 in hockey, but a great deal of the luster of UND hockey has gone away since the split of the WCHA,

I don't think Matt Larsen is embarrassed about not getting an invite to an FBS conference, but maybe you know him more personally than I do. Conferences and school presidents do what is in the best interests of their entities. There may be some monetary reasons and concerns about the competitiveness of NDSU when weighing possible membership. I guess the UND AD and President must have been extremely embarrassed when the Big 10 schools split from their conferences in hockey and invited an associate member and it wasn't UND. How embarrassing for the supposed top program in college hockey.

Probably not. And he looks like an athletic player. But if you don't have at least a more than 50/50 shot at hitting an open jumper, your effectiveness as a D1 player is diminished. You can offset that by having 4 other offensive minded players on the court at the same time, I don't know if UND has that, but if they do he would be a very good addition as a slasher/defensive specialist.

You are right as always. Damned embarrassing to win 7 of 8 titles and beat every FBS with enough guts to schedule you. And I wouldn't be so sure UND will be following NDSU into an FBS conference if they ever get the opportunity to join one, like the MWC. If they want two teams, my guess their first choice to join NDSU would be SDSU, not UND. But we all know you know better than the rest of us. You haven't been wrong yet...

When a player says his shot is a work in progress that would be a bit concerning.

I don't think they offered him that early and I never thought he was worthy of a scholarship. You can look back and I always thought RIchman definitely offered the wrong Dickinson kid. I still wish he would have offered Moody.

I get why Santiago would want to get on a CFL practice squad. You don't make any money but you keep your dream alive. I see John Crockett was cut from Ottawa but make their practice squad. I really don't get why someone who is 3 or 4 years out of college and had a taste of the NFL would try to hang on with very little chance of getting back to the NFL.

The kids from Enderlin just finished their freshman seasons. You might want to pump the brakes on them a bit. I am not saying they may not be good in the future, but they are very young playing against class B kids a half a foot shorter than them and they weren't exactly dominating. Again, they may wind up being good D1 players, but I think it is way too early to be offering them scholarships.

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