nd1sufan

So what do MVC schools think of Missouri State, Illinois State, SIU, etc? Do they consider those schools trash schools because they have Colleges of AG? Why wouldn't they vote those hick schools out and add the elite UND's and USD's?

OMG, bite your tongue. UND, the Harvard of the Upper Midwest, should never stoop as low as being in the same conference as an AG school like NMSU... Where are your standards???

And they only need a 19,000 seat capacity once every 2 years and that is because a third of the stadium is green and gold.

Yep, Fargo is going to piss off 90% of their travelers that have a 10 mile or less drive to the airport to make it more convenient for people in the GF area to catch a flight. Not going to happen.

I think it has been discussed in this forum that there are 18 random tests per team after every playoff game. At 4 or 5 games per year during a 9 year run, that would put the number of NCAA administered tests at close to a thousand. Not a bad percentage of positive tests compared to every other team in the country. You must be an NDSU FB insider to know about the rampant positive internal tests they are coming up with.

OK. A couple of months removed. I am sure he started dealing after the season was over...

One suspension in hundreds if not thousands of tests in the last 8 years. I guess you have a new definition of an epidemic than most. My assumption is there is not widespread usage or there would have been more positive tests. And I would hate for the athletic department to go down in flames like Clemson did after several positive tests a couple of years ago... I'm not sure if they will ever recover... And from a program that had a player arrested for dealing steroids a couple of years ago, pot meet kettle.

Yep. Ya ain't trying if ya ain;t cheatin.. Especially if you are smart enough not to get caught. And if only one positive test out of a thousand or more is all you get caught on, I say keep doing what you are doing...

I would say that is an idiotic prediction/statement but it is not nearly your most outrageous one.

SV still has a master plan that a handful of BSC teams will team with others, most importantly for the plan to work, UND, to form an FBS conference.

Well have the Griz contacted UND yet? UND is the key to any FBS movement by the Big Sky or any of their teams correct?

Yes, you never know how kids will turn out once on campus and a couple of years into the program, but I would think by the recruitment of the Moorhead, Ada and Barnesville kids the concensus is at this time they are better prospects than other local kids committed to either program.

i hadn't heard about any offers from NDSU to either of those kids. UND1983 just said they only offered a partial to Satter and not other scholarship offers to ND kids.

They obviously think that is all the was warranted. Is there a quota of scholarships that should be saved for ND kids every year bu the D1 schools regardless of talent? They have commitments from a Moorhead kid and an Ada kids and offered a kid from Barnesville. Those are just as local as ND kids and better talents than any kid in ND this year.

Nope, Not saying that at all. There may be many ND kids that can be major contributors to D1 FB teams this year. Time will tell. History would tell you not this many but maybe this is an exceptional year. I am saying UND and NDSU both recruit the state hard and offer the kids they think can contribute. They obviously have different opinions this year.

Their strategy hasn't changed. They offer all the in-state kids they think can help them win. They don't offer kids they don't think can help them whether or not they have connections to the program or not. Bubba must think this is the greatest crop ND HS FB players the state has ever assembled with all of the in-state kids he has committed.

But they would have a chance to be in a FB conference with UND. No G5 conference Boise State is in or could be in would be legitimate without UND. Just ask SV...

Hell freezes over?

Again, nobody does the hard hitting exposes like Miller and Nelson. I am shocked Nelson in allowed at UND press conferences...

Not really. Just having some fun.

Yep. Nobody would notice if a a kid wasn't playing in a playoff game and the media wouldn't wonder why. And you are absolutely correct. UND would be wasting money they don't have in the FB budget with piss tests. They have no risk of an NCAA test and the Englestads would take it out of the coaches salary budget it they did the testing.

This is a PWO offer over D2 scholly money since D2's cant offer PWO. But if it makes you feel good go for it. NDSU has developed PWO's into NFL players. It is what good football programs do. Develop kids into better football players. Check out Gopherhole and see how many UND scholarship signees and commits in the past few years, including this year, have only D2 offers as other offers.

The situation UND is in now is nothing like the D2 days in the 90's. Nobody cares about D2 FB. Who won the last 5 D2 titles? Don't google it, Nobody knows or cares. HS FB players know about NDSU's run, and not just kids in the region, even kids outside the region. Kids know about the NDSU QB that just signed a $128 million contract and they currently have 10 players in NFL camps. When your top in state commit says one of the best things about playing at UND is they get to play against NDSU every year, it isn't a good sign for UND. But UND can tell recruits they won a D2 title 20 years ago. And they had an TE go to the NFL 20 years ago. That always plays well with kids.

UND doesn't have to test their players. They are in no danger of getting tested by the NCAA. You actually have to win a playoff game to get tested...

You just haven't been on this forum enough. UND FB coaches are just so far ahead of other coaches in evaluating talent. Even though the kids commit with no other offers, they have to hold on with pins and needles until signing day because every other FCS school, led by NDSU, comes in at the end with huge offers to try to pry them away from UND. It happens every year. Just ask the UND360 guys. It is hard to argue they are wrong with the results Bubba has been utting up...