NDSU grad

Doesn't ring a bell. Could be though.

Scott Walter. Sean McKinnon Aaron Skyberg The last two are a little farther back than 15 years.

So does Cornell.

I hate to derail this thread any further but NDSU athletics has pretty much done everything it could to distance itself from Lakes. I know at one time he was banned from NDSU sporting events, including football tailgating. Of course he's been banned from Bisonville (not an easy accomplishment) so he had to start his own website. I know you guys know this, but he in no way represents NDSU and I am personally embarrassed we cheer for the same team.

I have to admit that would be pretty awesome. Are you thinking UC-Davis, Portland St., Cal Poly, and Sac. St. would still be in the Sky for football?

Helping others in a time of need is not a liberal concept. Unsustainable social programs that accomplish nothing other than to perpetuate generational poverty is.

Just started snowing in Minot. No accumulation yet. Looks like Bismarck is getting hammered though.

The XDSU's will pretty far down the list for entrance into the MVC. I don't like it, but that's the way it is.

Ok, that I agree with. But I would add that in order to take that next step (which I think NDSU is doing) you have to expand that footprint and get guys who wouldn't have been able to find Fargo on the map if NDSU were still d2. Basically guys like Lawrence Alexander, Kory Brown, Taylor Braun, and Trayvonn Wright.

Ummm, no. We didn't have quick success out of the transition. SDSU really struggled their first 4-6 years out of the transition. The 04-05 team, which I previously mentioned, was full of D2 players and was absolutely terrible. The Woodside class would not have been assembled the way it was if NDSU would have remained D2, and even that team didn't hit full stride until they were seniors, so I am not accepting your premise that the XDSU's were immediately successful out of the transition.

This I would disagree with. The players NDSU has now are nothing like the players the Bison had in the DII days. Out of the current roster probably only Mike Felt and possibly Marshall Bjorklund would be on the team if we were still d2. If you want to take a look at a D1 Bison team with D2 talent look at the 04-05 roster, and that was possibly the worst Bison basketball team in the last 30 years.

LOL. It appears the thread has veered slightly off topic.

I just think it would be interesting to put the numbers on what it costs to deliver education via traditional and online methods, and then fund accordingly. It looks like the legislature is looking at differet funding models for higher education (again), hopefully they can make hash out a funding formula that makes sense.

I'm not well-informed enough to give you an exact breakdown per student credit hour, but can provide a little insight into how the numbers are different. My wife is teaching 6 credits worth of online classes this year at MiSU. She's getting about $2500 to do that, or about $416/credit hour. My major adviser at NDSU had a 10% teaching appointment, which required him to teach 3 credit hours per year. If you take 10% of his $90,000 total salary that comes out to $9,000, or $3000 per credit hour. Also, you have to take the facilities into account, as there is opportunity cost there. I want to be clear I'm not discounting the value of online education, I just wish the funding formula would distinguish between online and traditional students.

The only problem with that is the cost of delivering education to an online student is much different as compared to a traditional student. Yet state funding does not distinguish between the two.

Adam Keller (our kicker) was very good, 1st team all-conference.

I'm just guessing here, but 06 Minnesota and maybe 07 Central Michigan would meet that criteria.

Define an assault rifle. What' the difference between an AR-15 and a .223 semi-auto?

Even though NDSU generally had a superior team than SUU, the Bison always struggled in Cedar City. I don't know what it is about that trip. Kind of glad they are out of the Summit for that reason alone. Good luck to UND.

Could happen, but the score when they played last year was 55-48. I see a similar type of game again.

That might be the score at the end of the 1st quarter. I'm thinking a 56-45 type game.

I think Nash red-shirted in juco, so if he has to sit out this year I think he would only have one year of eligibility remaining after this year.

I really don't think WNG stands a chance in this one, but that's what everybody said their first three playoff games too.

It's pretty complicated. From what I understand, Colton Heagle could take a medical hardship since he didn't redshirt. Also, Zach Vraa may be eligible for a sixth year since injuries kept him from playing two years. He was seriously considered to have his redshirt pulled his true freshman year but broke his collarbone. He also had collarbone injuries last year which caused him to miss all but one game. But from what I understand anytime a sixth year is involved it's pretty rare for a medical hardship to be granted.

If Kleason red-shirted voluntarily his freshman year, it's doubtful he would be eligible for a sixth year.