Teeder11

Let me slow it down for you. The nastiness and hypocrisy associated with the UND-NDSU rivalry is not an anomaly in the world of college athletics. It is the norm in all great rivalries. That does not make it right. That is just the way it is. To wish that it should just go poof and be gone is one's prerogative but it is pretty naive, too. And to highlight a hypocrisy on one side while dismissing or ignoring one on the other is not just hypocritical, it is also disingenuous. This is fun!

My, you are naive, aren't you, Pollyanna?

Neither side owns the high ground on hypocrisy. It's very mutual part of any great rivalry. Next.

They mean "region" as in upper Midwest, not just northeastern North Dakota.

All very true. It was interesting that Oregon was interested in Smith as a PWO. The Ducks are pretty synonymous with "fast." He must have some pretty decent speed. As far as football IQ, I Don't know.

Projected safety, corner, returner, slot receiver, running back? Or all of the above?

Relax. Geaux Sioux, this is a fan message board. Everything is done in hyperbole. ( ;

It certainly is the proverbial "sausage being made" isn't it?

Teeder11, on 05 May 2015 - 2:59 PM, said: Fixed your fix.

I was just talking about this very thing with a co-worker... and your explanation was my best guess, too. I just wished that there would have been a happy medium on the lag time between the time the lists arrived from the outside agency to the time it was released publicly, at which point better vetting could have taken place and some of the confusing matters that are confounding people today could have been cleared up and alleviated. I think it should have been released today rather than immediately after it was received. Just my 2 cents. I do realize, however, that someone could then accuse UND of manipulating the data... so damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.

Not hypocrisy. Just being overly transparent -- to a fault.

"They" reconvene tomorrow at 6 p.m.at Twamley 404.... bring your own popcorn.

This is my read, too.

^^^I was trying to come up with a way to explain that very thing. I love the Red Pepper because of all the great experiences that I have had there over the years -- same with The Moon and other Grand Forks Iconic places --- and all the nostalgia that comes with it.

Dillon was a hard luck case, hampered by injuries. Kiser showed spurts at the 5 but utimately got pushed around with her slight frame. E. Thompson was recruited to play volleyball originally. Gave it up and tried b-ball. C.thompson was a walk on from lower division Northern State. Buckley never saw a lick of action as a freshmen last season, as opposed to Strand and Sawatzke, who both got a lot of bench minutes. Meyer also sat for the season.

A quick glance shows the absence of Dillon, Kiser, E. Thompson. C. Thompson and Buckley.

To the tune of "White Christmas" (apologies to Irving Berlin): I'm dreaming of a Hambone update With every SiouxSports post I read With exclamation points aplenty, in font size of twenty And the words 'FBS runningback coming' indeed.

Seems a lot of that goes on unabated on here on all sides of this issue.

True... that was a low blow!!!! Rock on!

There are definitely some problems going on at UND. But your Reader's Digest synopsis of the root causes range from incomplete to one-sided to inaccurate. One could argue that "leadership" IS finally taking place on campus, albeit, it appears to be stemming from the Provost's Office (although, I would imagine it is at the behest of the president). The faculty are mad as hell because someone is actually saying "No" to them and actually holding their feet to the fire on certain -- not all-- issues. This doesn't sit well in the mamby pamby world of Ivory Tower liberalism, where decisions usually get made (and watered down) in the endless committee systems or through some kind of task force with the pretense of listening to all sides and making decisions that have everyone's buy in. BTW, there was no way they could NOT have used this kind of tactic with the Nickname issue and gotten away with it -- so that big elephant in the room is an anomaly here. Another big issue at hand is that there's a clear move to reign in some of the traditional semi-autonomous divisions on campus -- that have preferred to do business in vacuums with no input from Twamley Hall -- but are the first ones to run to Twamley when they need a bailout from taxpayers. This has already happened at EERC and with the REAC building on campus. Aerospace looks to be in the cross hairs now. Not saying the administration has done everything on the up and up at all, because they have not -- not in the least. I am saying that simple assertions and interpretations about the sausage that is being made at a public institution based on the rantings of one side may be good message board fodder, but there's a lot more to it. Finally, there are some people out there, who are critics of higher education, who IMHO should be welcoming some of the hard-line stances the UND administration has taken on certain cost-cutting matters. The faculty, who have never seen a public-funding plan they didn't like, may not be happy with it, but that should be your first clue that it might be a good thing.

Exactly.

I am sure there's a thread on some Cal-Irvine Anteaters message board out there somewhere that boasts about all the Anteater logo sightings that have been witnessed around the world by its fan base, because, um, every fan base seems to have one. Different fan bases notice their beloved logos out in pubic and in the media because they are actually looking for it. The reason we notice so much UND/Fighting Sioux stuff out there is because (A) it's a really cool and a great logo, and (B) because we are actually looking for it. I do it whenever I go to West Acres in Fargo (or anywhere for that matter in Fargo), visiting my hometown in western North Dakota, attending the State Fair in Minot, whenever I go to the Mall of America, Airports around the world, big public events everywhere, etc. You probably have seen more Cal-Irvine Anteaters stuff out in public during your travels, on TV and in other media than you realize, but it escaped you because you weren't actually fixated on noticing it. Point is -- your assertion is not unique to UND and its FS nickname and logo. Everyone notices their favorite team's stuff out in public. But it would be great to have something a little more concrete to identify with and rally around moving forward than just the name of our school, even if it takes a few generations for it to be accepted. You can't tell me that UC Santa Cruz "Banana Slugs" nickname was embraced with open arms right away by the populace, but now it is as beloved to them as the Fighting Sioux nickname is to us.

This is my understanding, as well, of how the process is intended to play out.

Heard nothing.... if true, wonder if such a move would pave the way for a drop down or another kind of high-talent transfer. Again, I have heard nothing and would wish Patrick all the best in everything he does here at UND.

As in a horse? LOL!