mikejm

For a minute there I thought this reply was directed at Siouxmama's post... But I didn't really want to go there.

Your objectivity is showing again Goon. A lot of us here have complimented the players (JT, TJ and Bina included), the program and the coach for showing great character, especially when compared to several other hockey programs who've found themselves in somewhat similar circumstances. What happens if Coach H says to himself, "Hmmm, these young men got caught doing something stupid. The police were involved. That doesn't reflect well on the program I have been hired to run with the utmost of character and respect. Therefore that doesn't reflect well on either the University or on me. They're going to sit for a game."

Anyone catch Cloquet vs. Duluth East on FSN North last night? Two pretty impressive goalies in action: Ben Leis of East and Reid Ellingson of Cloquet. Are we good in goal with Grieco in and Eidsness on his way? I don't think either of these high schoolers are committed anywhere. They made 92 saves between them in a game that ended in a 1-1 overtime tie.

I spoke to a Blackhawks scout earlier this winter and he said they are very impressed with Chris' presence on the ice, and the leadership qualities he's shown this year. Don't be surprised to see him in the NHL for more than a visit.

http://www.citypages.com/databank/21/1009/...8564.asp?page=4 See "Mitigating Factor": Millard's statement to the arresting officer in the hotel fracas--"My arms are more powerful than your guns"--remains one of the most memorable utterances in Vikings history.

Can you say "Keith Millard"? Dope.

Apparently it is twins!

Now see, there you go again getting all righteous about truth! Man, what is it with you PCM? Rumor ... innuendo ... hearsay. We want it all, and we want it right damn now.

Yeah, I heard they're having 2-for-1 "T"s.

Looks like I picked a heckuva day to quit sniffing glue!

That's really pretty good typing for a person with a beer in one hand.

Perhaps I'm overreacting; if so, I'm sorry. I took a spin over to GPL and I'm surprised at the number of regular posters there who are calling this a "non-story". I trust Hak will do what is best for the team and the young men involved. (Most likely involving innumerable herbies!0

triouxper: aside from the players being officially cited and the quasi-public discussion here, nothing has been "done" to these guys. The University and Coach Hak will do the "doing" beyond the legal system. And to suggest that I am seeking "satisfaction" or "happiness" by suggesting they sit for a game is assigning me the wrong sentiment. Right is right and wrong is wrong. The young men have apparently broken a law and they'll be punished. That makes me neither happy nor satisfied; to the contrary it disappoints me greatly. I hope this is an instance of youthful indiscretion and not a manifestation of some sense of entitlement that we hero-worshipping fans may have fostered in student athletes. There have been some comments here that the punishment fit the crime; that a monetary fine and community service are plenty. That's easy. The problem with that attitude is that these young men have attained a lofty status in Grand Forks, and possibly farther afield. There are countless young people (and perhaps several adults) who see these guys as heroes and role models. If these kids see that their heroes can break a law and pay (essentially) no consequence, what impression has been made? That it is permissible for a minor to be in a bar? That a hockey star needn't heed the law? That if an infraction occurs, the super-star gets off with barely a slap on the wrist? I find it laughable that so many here wish to give this a pass but are willing to throw the book at a player at some other school who runs afoul of the law. Admitedly, this is NOT as big a deal as were Greene's duey or Jake's pull tab deal. But to call it nothing is to ignore just how much influence this program and these young men have on the community. Stepping down from soap box

Suggesting that a one-game suspension is appropriate consequence is not being un-supportive of the players involved.

(Ducking to avoid inevitable barrage of thrown objects and invictives) I find myself agreeing somewhat with Bucky on this. There were many, many posters here jumping up on their soapboxes blasting the Gophers program and tDon for sweeping the whole Blarneys deal under the rug. And now when three of "our own" are in a bit of trouble some of the same people are pooh-poohing any sugestion of suspension for the players involved. No, this incident is not the same as the Blarneys situation. Nonetheless, three very public figures in Grand Forks have been (apparently) cited for offenses and there ought to be consequences. "We" tend to think of our beloved Fighting Sioux program as morally and ethically on higher ground than many of our rivals; please don't be hyprocrites and try to split hairs in this instance. You only add fuel to the Skippys of the world. And before anyone labels me a traitor, keep in mind that I've been a bleed-green UND hockey fan for longer than many of you have been alive!

This is an opportunity for UND and the hockey program to prove something. If the story is true JT and TJ (and Bina) need to be punished and the incident NOT swept under the rug the way many other schools might tend to attempt. I hate to say it, but the boys should sit a game or two and the team pay the consequences. Any less puts the Fighting Sioux in the cesspool with too many other athletic programs.

I hope you won't have any lasting effects!

I'm all for Tom Buning leading the cheers at any game...home or away. He's brought a much-needed breath of fresh air to the University.

Ahem.... 'bout that Bina goal on Youtube...

A quick question: who is the stud who was wearing Finley's number last night? That was a really good effort by someone who's been maligned most of the season.

I have heard personally from a source very, very high up in the AD's office that hockey is not even on the radar screen at SU.

I am not able to "mark as read" anymore. Otherwise, nice upgrade.

This actually might go a long way toward jump-starting the Sioux.

Thanks for the reminder Yttrium.