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I believe players can ask for permission to transfer. I'm not sure on new NCAA rules and if schools can still permit where players can and can't go. I also don't know if a coaching change would be good enough reason for the NCAA to waive the no sit policy. They are not the most consistent on the enforcement of their rules.

Those were the same outcomes if Klieman were staying. I think NDSU is the more talented team and still wins but I agree, not the best time for an off the field distraction.

I think they retain a good chunk if not all. For UNDs sake hopefully a few local guys take another look. I think its odd they keep him in the office to coach the next few games. If they continue to dominate it won't be an issue but if things get tough can you really look towards a coach that is leaving as committed?? Wish him well. Very well deserved. Thought maybe having kids still at Shanley would keep him around but you can't turn down $2,300,000.

Lol. Wow.

Klieman may end up at Kansas St but he is nowhere near the top 4-5 on the list. Edit: not because he can’t coach but because donors at Power 5 schools aren’t key on taking a FCS coach as a head coach.

It’s still FBS and donors don’t want a FCS coach.

I forgot about that stint.

Are we talking about Kett or Rudy?

Isn’t Tibesar currently at OSU?

That's exactly the reason it has never been done before.

When is the last time any program has done this? At this point you fire your OC. I don’t know I’ve heard your scenario above.

Actually historically they have promoted or hired within their system. Either a former coach or someone with ties. I don’t mind the hire. I think Danny will put in all the necessary time to learn from other staffs on how to run the philosophy he wants to run. The key will be the OL hire and if they can add another position coach. That will be a big hire if we can get some experience that has ties to our recruiting foot print. What can he bring to that.

So is it the coordinator or the players? I have gotten raked over the coals on this board in he past when i used the final few games of that season to say this offense can work. One could argue Izzy was on that path this season until injury.

Back to the problem of our entire offense. It’s predictable. I don’t know many WRs that would have had success when the defense consistently knew what was coming and the OL was not good enough to force attention on the run game.

I don’t think our WRs are bad. Could be a deeper and also could use some creativity on offense to get them the ball in different positions

I don't have much more confidence in our offense converting a two point either but I'm guessing Bubba would know enough to throw the O out there to try and convert if our defense would have got a turnover for a score after the punt. How many more hypothetical situations do you want to throw out to try and prove what could have happened? How much time would have been left if our defense got the hypothetical stop and our offense didn't convert your hypothetical two point conversion? To answer the question if all the hypotheticals you throw out hopefully our defense would have scored their hypothetical TD fast cause I would not have had much confidence in our offense to convert a two point conversion from the two yard line either so we would have had to convert on a hypothetical onside kick. Which would have been difficult for our special teams to convert. Of everything above I still think the most realistic opportunity was punt and get a three and out and force them to punt it and get the ball back on our side of the 50. Not as far fetched as all your scenarios above.

Really???

I’d like to see a 12th added. With 12 game schedule next year 8 wins will the mark. Yeah, I know.....Playoffs??? But you have to schedule to give yourself a chance.

What’s 7 divided by 3 cause that’s what we gained the 3 plays prior. I understand math and the situation fine.

Can you blame him? That’s how we won the week before.

Go for it on 4th down with what I would call less than 50% chance of converting. Get that same stop, same punt and same return and your now starting at the opposing 15 with previous time off the clock. Its all speculative but when JJ got stopped the play before, I wasn’t confident on 4th. However I wouldn’t have been against going for it. Problem is, I don’t think we could have thrown for it and would have almost had to run a QB run play. Only my opinion which doesn’t count for anything I know

I would have liked to see a QB change at half at the latest. The offense needed that shot in the arm and it’s no disrespect to Ket who I have been a fan of. He was off Saturday (and maybe the one before).

If this comment is directed at me i will admit I had zero confidence in our offense getting more than ten yards there. I had more faith in our punter getting off a better punt and pinning them inside the 10, which he didn’t do either.

I'll take a lot of heat for this but in the situation on Saturday with the way our offense was playing the argument could be made that in that situation Bubba made the right call. Our defense did have a better chance of getting a stop vs. the offense getting two yards (on that day and the week prior). Its easy for me to say sitting in my chair I would have gone for it. However I do feel Bubba plays it way to tight sometimes and hopefully some new blood at OC can get him loosen up a little bit. Bubba will always hang his hat on his defense and hopefully that will change. I can think of a coach that was at a school 80 miles to the south of Grand Forks that punted on a 4th and short in a quarterfinal game in 2010 and ended up losing. He will admit he learned from that play and got more aggressive in his philosophy every year after. It was a learning experience for a guy that was a very good coach even though he played it safe all the time.

On the flip side you could argue no one cares more about the program than he does. If you had to go to battle with someone, would you not want someone that has unquestioned passion for what you are fighting for? Give the guy a chance to fix his hiring error. This is the life of the coaching world.