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Every school is a mistake from making the papers, or being on the radio, or being on the front page of ESPN.com.

molden, I can respect some of your opinions and agree with you that the Bison fans I work with are very embarrassed by this and as much as they would like to try and sweep it away, understand its a HUGE blackeye to the program from the general public's perception. I do however continue to find it comical that you and some of your fanbase always seems to point to our hockey program to justify actions during this situation and bring up things that happened 4-5 years ago as examples. As I mentioned earlier, I don't know if you want to revisit the last 5 years of off the field issues of your football program. Now you are also comparing "rumors" to try and justify your current situation. Somehow dragging UND into this is what got myself and other UND fans on the defensive in the first place. We had nothing to do with it. Our hockey and football programs had nothing to do with this situation and have never been involved in anything like this. The backpedaling being done by your president was caused by the actions of your AD and coach and no one else.

I was at Scheels tonight and wonder if they would be willing to donate to the IPF. I understand they probably wouldn't give the $5 million they gave to NDSU for their basketball arena but even half that would get us started on the IPF. With the commitment they made to the new store in Grand Forks along with how well UND merchandise sells in Fargo (I don't want to get anyone too butt hurt over conversations I've had), I'd say the school has made them some good money. It would be a nice investment to open the new store.

Travis, do you have any information you can share with us about Brandon when you get a chance?

Also, if anything this just puts this back in the news and gives everyone a chance to talk about how it was handled....... again.

Where is the part about the lawyer that represents the football team? I know all students have access to him but I'm sure he was a little more readily available in this case. This was an "oh !@#$, we have egg on our face e-mail". Damage already done.

The Terra group is in business to make money. No different than your business is. Lets look at it this way. If someone gives me $XXX to build a house in Fargo, Bismarck, Minot, Grand Forks and Dickinson, as a business owner I am going to send the minimum amount of people I need to each location to get the job done in the allotted time. During the time I'm given, I am going to monitor the progress at each location and I'm only going to send more people if I seem to be falling behind at any of the locations. Every extra person I send out costs me more money so if the people I have working for me "appear" to be keeping pace, why as a business owner would I send extra help and add extra cost? Truth is, the actions of those responsible will never give us a chance to know if it would have made the ballot and as far as being on future ballots, that is not going to come free of charge to those involved.

You worded things a little different than I would have but I agree with you. Let's be honest, in years past we haven't had the complete talent to beat FBS teams. That is not meant as a knock on the players at that time but the results of games during that time speaks for itself. Hopefully this year is different. The offense I saw last week was exciting and has some serious skill guys. An offense that can truely carry our defense. The defense absolutely has to play better, no doubt. The big thing will be mistakes. We cannot afford to muff punts, throw ints., miss tackles, jump offisides, etc. We are not good enough to do that and I'm excited to see if the guys can rise to the challenge.

Thanks for answering the question. Bye.

Thats just the ones that are public knowledge. Put it this way, he was not suspended a year for driving offenses.

Ok....So how many strikes does a starting RB get at NDSU?

Your coach ruled that one out today? No suspensions will come. Question for you and other Bison fans- How many strikes does a starting running back get at NDSU?

This is the kind of stuf Gene Taylor brought upon his athletic department with his comments on Saturday. I know it was bad before but after the comments KFGO and the Forum are going to be huddled around the police scanners waiting for the next NDSU athlete to get arrested. And now it doesn't matter if its a member of the dance team, everyone is going to be compared to these guys and it starts with Travis Beck. No one would have known any different about Beck's summer arrest, but now the questions begin- Why did he already play two games and why will he be allowed to be on strike 4 if drinking and running from the law(resisting arrest) are taken so seriously? This isn't going away anytime soon and although the players may not deserve it, it couldn't happen to a better guy than Gene Taylor.

The biggest thing we need to come around right now is our depth with the 2nd unit defense. When Daryl Brown came out our 2nd unit dbacks gave up some big plays and when we tried to rotate in our 2nd and some 3rd unit d-line and LB's we got beat on the option read play they ran time and time again. These guys need to get their feet under them and make some plays. Hopefully the experience helps with that. We are going to see some pretty good rb's and some outstanding wr's in the next few months and our first unit will not be able to be on the field all game. Right now I am more concerned about our lack of pressure on the qb than anything else. I am confident our tackling will improve and we have guys that can run but we're asking a lot of our db's and our offense if we can't find a way to get some pressure.

I'm sure he had to do some extra conditioning as well. Maybe a couple extra sprints or something to really teach him a lesson.

Mods, can we clean up some of these posts? We are here trying to have a discussion on a topic that has affected the entire state of North Dakota and these guys are obviously trying to change the subject or get the thread closed down.

Take it to PMs or start a new thread of your obsession of Dave. This thread is to discuss 13 of the 15 charged in the petition fraud with ties to NDSU's football team.

You said earlier he suspended Jemison cause he knew about it and had a conversation with BJ and that is why he got suspended so quickly. If he knew about this for weeks before, and the players obviously admitted their guilt. Why no suspension?

I can tell you what I wouldn't do. I wouldn't make the comments that Gene made last night trying to make the kids seem like the victims and I wouldn't have told the media that you believe the court process should play out, even though you didn't let the process play out a couple weeks prior with another player on the team who has yet to go to court. I know you have the Green and Gold glasses on but take them off for one second and take a look at how this looks from the outside. Its winning above all else.

Thats what I was thinking. It was 6 years ago. Do you really want to compare the last 6 years of Bison football off the field incidents? Some Bison fans trying to justify that this is all ok is worth the read. Your AD and coach have put winning in front of everything else. Admit it and move on.

If it's Mannausa it must be another Wisconsin kid?? Hopefully we hear a name.

Look guys, the attendance isn't going to change overnight. The fans who have gone to the games can see we have a damn good football team that has improved tremendously since last year. But we lost a lot of casual fans during an average transition which was below average at the beginning. From the team standpoint, they are doing everything correct right now to get interest back in the program. A blowout over SD School of Mines was not going to catch anyones attention. This win vs. Portland St will. I'm expecting attendance to continue to improve as the season goes along.

Well, someone has to watch them. Their coach and AD do a pretty good job at looking the other direction.

The didn't even try to get signitures so whether they were wearing their jersey's is a pretty mute point.

Great post. If the team keeps playing offense like last night, it will give fans a reason to stick around. Just my opinion. It will take fans a little time to realize this is not the offense from the transition and it is so much fun to watch.