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It has been strongly recommended for years and the numbers have always been pretty high. This isn't a new thing and players in the past were able to get by. Plenty of part/full time jobs available and people willing to be flexible with hours to be able to hit all other "highly recommended" activities of summer. This also isn't a new point of conversation at UND or across the country. With the exception of P5 schools and some of the G5, most schools have very limited summer scholorships available and a lot of players make time to work during the summer. This was a big discussion point for the P5 schools to break off is the smaller budget schools couldn't afford to give a bunch of summer scholorships to all its athletes, not just football players. For comparison sake, I live in Fargo and there are a lot of FU's players get jobs in the summer to pay for some of these expenses. Some just get paid for forging signitures but its an attempt at working. This thread is pretty rediculous if you ask me. Even if a player goes home to mom and dad, money would still be getting spent to feed them.

All that may be true but its not on a license plate

So no mention of scholorships, no pay to play, competing in conference tournaments? Plus, the survey is asking people who likely wouldn't play at the D1 level. If they were truely given an option to compete varsity vs. club and all other things were equal, including playing time, which do you think they would pick? There are likely other holes that could be put in that survey if someone had the interest in poking hard enough.

How are the questions asked? There are some details that could be left out or not discussed that make staying at the club level equally appealing.

http://www.inforum.com/news/3773443-two-violent-incidents-reported-downtown-fargo-early-wednesday-morning

Dan, as a Fargo resident, the crime going on lately is more than a "certain criminal element."

Two murders in two days and now gunshots reported in south Moorhead. I've lived in Fargo for 7 years. Not used to this activity.

You left out the detail that you are still living in your the house of your ex and she makes all the rules for you because in the grand scheme of things your pair isn't as big as the 60 guys she truely cares about.

That's fine. If they are going to let the people choose, they need to supply all the facts about their options. This would include something in writing, with their name behind it that remaining just North Dakota satisfies the agreement made with the NCAA. I don't think you'll see it because the NCAA has proven time and time again that their members play by their rules and they can move the goal post as they want If Dave St. Peter, KG and other members of the committee do that and sign off that it 100% meets the NCAA criteria, than I'm fine with letting the people choose that option if they want.

if it meets the agreement UND has in place with the NCAA, than allow it to be an option. The question needs to be asked and clarification needs to be given to voters prior to it making a ballet. It would suck if UND couldn't host a hockey regional or playoff game in the future based on not asking a question and trying to stick it to the NCAA.

But it did bring attention to UND and the nickname. UND has no control over others actions but they are the one's continually coming out of these situations looking bad and having to do damage control. Thats not going to change but even you can see how those situations can be handled differently with a new nickname in place instead of being known as North Dakota.

I have my favorites of the 7, it may not be selected and I will be fine either way. I will offer what I would like to have seen from this process- I would have liked there to be a logo or logo idea was offered by the time this goes to vote. My personal stance on the UND name and logo was always the logo was the best part and the hardest to let go. Having a feel for potential replacements may help in the voting process. I know this would add a little more time but this has drawn on long enough already.

People are looking for quotes and examples of how not having a nickname hurts UND. I really expect a quote from the anyone at UND and the commitee stating they have spoken with the NCAA and they are fine with not having a nickname. I have yet to see that and highly doubt anyone in the "know" is willing to stick their neck out there since we are playing by the NCAA's rules and they have proven time and time again that they are anything but black and white. If there is another "Siouxper drunk" incedent after UND decides not to pick an official nickname and it hits the news, can it be determined by the NCAA that UND made an effort to truely move away from the Sioux nickname?

Are you talking about the state legislature that forced UND to have this name or the commitee? Do they know for certain or do they not want to be the bad person and get rid of the name? I have yet to see a quote that says for certain that this meets all requirements in the agreement with the NCAA.

The NCAA is the only one that knows for certain what will be acceptable and what will not. They have made the rules and moved the goalposts where ever they have for the last 5+ years. Do you know for certain that not officially choosing a new nickname will be accepted by the NCAA?

Is the name officially retired if only North Dakota is selected as the replacement? Does it meet criteria set forth by the NCAA?

The menu got expanded outside what they are good at. They are not a specialty burger/sandwich joint. Fast food that is consistent from location to location is what McDonalds was set up to be. When the menu gets too big, service is the first thing that suffers. Margins also suffer as space to store more items increases.

More to do with past menu and franchise decisions than a make believe healthier America.

You said the only thing that matters is winning. So winning, tradition and identity are important. Really no different than a player.

Well, than it shouldn't matter to you what is chosen.

The kid from Dickinson was given an opportunity to start this season based on his height and was moved to JV as the year went a long with limited varsity minutes. While I won't argue about not developing players and missing on some local kids, I would say there has been a refocus on Minnesota and Iowa the last couple years.

Someone better call the Trojans at USC and fill them in on this. They might want to change their name quickly so they do not get continually laughed at.

Whats your suggestion for a new name? I think its easy to point at the list and say everything sucks, but whats your solution. Understand that your suggestion will be picked apart by the majority of people who think they get a say.

Votes

It will be an interesting chess match this season. Other coaches/teams have had a chance to see the pressure defense we will be using and an entire off season to study film. What adjustments do they make? Coach Schweigert and Coach Schmidt have had an entire off season to stufy films on offenses and styles of offense they didn't see in the MVFC. What adjustments will they make? Will an offseason improve the talent level on our defense and allow us to show a few more wrinkles we didn't show last year?