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Former Sioux student and track athlete Erin McBrair is married to Cowboys punter Mat McBriar. ( A couple of years ago, the UND punter came to Detroit Lakes to work out with him). He leads the NFL in punting and she wants people to vote for him for the Pro Bowl. His net average is 42.4 yds/ punt which leads the league. She is also one of the NFL wives on VH1 which is a bad reality show but she is donating part of the compensation for doing the show to the Detroit Lakes High School track team to buy 100 new hurdles. Her high school track coach was Mike Labine former Sioux Track All -American. Vote early and vote often.
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Big Sky is a great conference. That is the conference UND, NDSU, USD, and SDSU should have joined back when we also should all have gove D1AA. We are going to a conference with trips to great spots in Montana, California, Oregon, Arizona, Colorado and Utah. Conference has great tradition and has had success in FB and BB. Nothing wrong wtith Summit but their FB conference was more attractive. Wouldn't be surprised in the other Dakota teams make the move in the future. The "old NCC' was a great conference and had great success. I think Sioux fans are very happy with the conference. Should be attractive for recruiting. We need to move it up to the next level. $$$ support, fans in the stands, marketing, media coverage, entertainment at events and connection with the students, GF community and region. Talked to John Q Paulsen last week. He made sure he told me he didn't think UND was any good but when I told him he needed to get the rivalry going again he agreed and said he had been trying but Taylor and Bohl don't want to. Too bad. They would likely have had the upper hand lately (especially this year). They might have made a dent on the big advantage UND has over them over the years in FB. If they wait too long it will be back to the norm with UND dominating again.
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I would like to see us schedule Army. Give them a 2 for 1 and or work a hockey series and or WBB/MBB. They are getting better but I think we could normally give them a competitive game. Would be a great experience for our team to play at Michie Stadium and go a day early to tour West Point. I would stop sceduling NAIA teams unless we have no one else to bring for a home game. If we had to drop the Fighting Sioux logo then we should also be able to continue to schedule Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and any of the other PC schools we couldn't schedule before.
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You can never have enough talent at RB. The back-up QB needs to be better and needs to play. UND has made mistakes for years not getting back-up players PT. (Reed Manke broke his collar bone when he was still playing and we were ahead of Winona State by about 30 pts. When outcome is no longer in question you need to play other guys so they will hang around for all 5 years. This is a tough year but I believe the level of talent is improving at DB and LB. Last two recruiting years were good ones. If the timing of all of this remains on schedule we should be better next year if we can get a QB and continue to improve OL and DL. I think LB's DB's are going to be better and the young guys on OL will continue to develop. I have no idea if one of the RS QB's can play or if Hedrickson or Goska can improve enough to make difference. IF we have no one else at TE move Daggett in and flex him. He should have had more reps this year as Jr to see how much he has developed as receiver. He is a big target with good atheltic ability and good speed for a big guy. Nor sure what else we have coming up but I don't think we have included TE in scheme other than blocker. We usually bring on other RB or WR. Hell, I'm too old to scheme these things. I think right now the staff has been recruiting well. I was disappointed when we failed to go for first downs in opponents territory against Montana and Davis. I think in a year when you have nothing to lose and you are playing a favored opponent you let your guys know we can do this and the tradition at UND is that we go get this. If the message is we don't think we can do this we won't. We have next year to continue to get better. The move to the big sky is a plus for recruiting and means great games and travel for our team. Go Sioux. MBB looks better and WBB looks like they will be young but fun to watch. Students need to get their butts to those games too.
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I disagree there wasn't talent at RB. Murray is an outstanding RB. Sutton is a good RB. Miller should have been redshirted. Surprised at the lask of QB depth. We have a HS jr. QB who is better than the two guys UND has been playing. He attned UND games regularly as a kid to watch the Manke Brothers play. He was at Wisconsin last weekend, has been at Gopher games, and NDSU has had him in. Air Force just contacted our coaches. Hard to understand only lukewarm (if any interest) from UND. You don't come in late on a kid like this. NDSU has gone from off the radar to the first FCS team he will consider. Oline is still small but getting bigger. The young linebackers show promise and the young D-backs are faster and more atheltic, but need to get better. Dline hs some kids but needs to get deeper. Not sure about TE. We didn't use our TE this yeart or last year for that matter. We need to take the opportunity to get more kids on the field in years like this. We are not going anywhere. Get the back-up linemen, WR's in the game more. There is no excuse for our back QB's not to have plenty of experience this year and last year. Frankly the school, the community and the media need to upgrade in a number of areas. We can't have 6000 empty seats. Give the tickets to area students. At least they buy concessions. The band is grea but get them scholarships/stipemnds and double the size. Create pre-game activities for the UND students. Engage the students in their dorms, fraternities and sororities. Create incentives to get them there. Improve the in game experience. Give score updates to other college scores regularly. Have post game activites. UND needs to upgrade it's marketing for athletics as well as UND as an institution. We can't keep talking about these things. We need to have a minimum of 10,000 butts in the seats every home game.
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This years NFL Wives are Cowboy wives or former Cowboy wives and includes among others, Deion Sanders wife, Rocket Ismail's wife, Leonard Davis's wife and Cowboy punter Mat McBriar's wife Erin, from Detroit Lakes. She is a former UND student who competed in track for UND during her freshman year before transferring. She is married to Cowboys punter Mat McBriar. First episode airs this Sunday on VH1. Not sure it is worth watching cuz I don't think she wore her Sioux gear in any of the shows.
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Kelby Krabbenhoft, the Sanford CEO, attended a UND Siouxperswing last Thursday. Among other things he was very complimentary of the UND Medical School and the UND athletic dept. He stated "Sanford Health wants to be part of UND's athletic scholarships, UND's $300,000,000 capital campaign and part of UND's $19.2 million dollar indoor FB practice/indoor track facility". He also stated Sanford was very happy with sponsorship of the Siouxperswings and indicated a willingness to continue that relationship. There are also a number of things Sanford wants to do on the medical side but they have indicated they want to be a big part of UND atheltics and academics outside of the Medical School.
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His Dad was a great athlete at Bismarck St. Mary's and was an excellent wide receiver for Sioux FB. I think he had at least one uncle play FB for UND also.
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The decision rests with the tribal councils. Hopefully Standing Rock will support keeping the name. If they do and the Spirit Lake resolution of support stands, then UND needs to interact with the the tribal councils and the reservation communiites in such a way they would never again want to lose the association with UND. Workshops for their teachers through the College of Education, site visits for students in history, anthropology and visits from our students and faculty in the Figh and Wildlife Management programs etc.. Internships in Social Work and Counseling/Psychology on the reservation. Rotations for Medical Students and or residents in Family Medicine to support Indian Health Services. Clinics for coaches and student athletes for reservation coaches and students. Exhibition games by UND athletic teams on the reservations with proceeds to help reservation youth. Tie in to that cultural workshops for UND atheltes and coaches and other students and faculty. Maybe that bunch of PC faculty who never seem to do anything worthwhile will donate their time. There could be so much UND athletics could do for our reservation communities. Athletics and the Fighting Sioux name can be used in such a positive manner to make that happen. It would require full support by President Kelly and our athletic director as well as different departments within the University family. If we don't do anything differently there will always be pressure to drop the name and all of the hand wringing and rhetoric will get us no where.
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I think your comments are pretty good. The former student hasn't been wrong yet and was aware of the problems with Chapman from day 1. As a former student he or she has no particular bone to pick with NDSU but the information has been right on over the Chapman years. One might figure out her or his position is such that they would be close to the situation all along. As I have suggested check with SBoHE members or Hanson (if he is willing to discuss) about the details of the mess Chapman made. No reason to believe me or my source but my source hasn't been wrong yet. The information I hear isn't confidential. The Sanford Health Involvement will be Sports Med support for NDSU atheltics and there will likely be a donation for the Urban Plains Center. There will also likely be a nice donation to the addition to the community center in Detroit Lakes, Mn. from Sanford Merit Care in the $100,000 range.
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It is pretty easy to see the amount over budget at UND for that home vs the huge amount the Chapman's put the NDSU home over budget isn't even close. The Chapmans arrogant attitude and the demands for change at NDSU were a big part of the problem. That didn't occur at UND. At UND Kelly and his wife weren't the cause of the cost over runs. Had the cost overruns at NDSU been similar we wouldn't be having this discussion. I don't think there will be a $30,000,000 donation or anywhere near that to NDSU from Sanford Health and I doubt Denny Sanford has any interest in NDSU. I understood he was a Gopher fan. . I think Sanford Merit Care will establish a relationship to provide sports medicine support to NDSU athletics. The future relationship with NDSU is because of the location of Merit Care headquarters and I believe the Sanford CEO is related to Pat Simmers who either is or was one of the athletic dept fundraisers. There is some rethinking going on about whether or not to get into bed with NDSU until this mess is cleaned up. Sanford is also having discussions with UND and has picked up sponsorship of the UND Siouxperswing Golf outings this year. The interest in UND is to establish a similar relationship with the Med School they have with USD and possibly facilitate the relationship between the two schools. Sanford uses their Sports Med/Ortho Depts as an effective marketing tool. There is pressure to back off enthusiatic support for NDSU atheltics beyond what they will do for other area schools. The CEO may intervene based on his family relationship. It will not go over well with most MC employees. Mercil was pissed before the new radio contract. I would refer you to members of the SBoHE and or Dick Hanson to verify the financials woes I have referred to. I would not depend on a blog to get reliable info and there is nothing I can say that will convince the die hard fan. Best to get the info from those who you won't doubt. My source is a former NDSU student who doesn't disclose any confidential info but knows the details of the problems with Chapman. He was also smart enough to note Chapman's lack of honesty and lack of integrity years ago. I suspect review of the SBoHE meeting minutes might also be helpful. Two former Chancellors, a former interim chancellor and the attorney general of N,Dak. all exposed Chapman for what he was. Too bad no one would pay attention. Would have saved NDSU a lot of embarassment and money.
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The problem at NDSU is not the mansion. It is the movement of funds to the atheltic dept or other Chapman projects that he wasn't authorized to move unrestricted funds to. The house at NDSU isn't his major problem but the stories coming out about Chapman and "the missus" made changes and pushed projects which increased costs demonstrates he arrogance his problem is the $11,000,000 deficit and the depletion of the reserves and how Chapman got the school to that point. One of Mercil's friends told me yesterday Mercil is not happy at all. He donated $1,000,000 to help build a home on campus for their president and Chapman fouled it up.
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That isn't necessarily true. There is ample evidence that University funds were misappropriated illegally. The question is whether or not anyone in the States Attorneys office in Cass County is willing to do a thorough criminal investigation. I would hope you might try visiting with Dick Hanson the interim President who was stuck with this mess. He is trying to get the school back on track without criminal trials but even if he can do that, to say nothing criminal happened is the type of attitude that allowed Chapman to get away with what he did. "He is our guy, he is moving us forward better than anyone in the history of the school. Laws, rules, ethics, honesty and the students be damned (he moved some student funds too)." Anyone who understands anything about higher ed finding and procedures would think your attitude ridiculous. He took personal credit for all good that happened. The research dollars probably had more to do with the N.Dak. Congressional delegation and the growing economy of the Fargo area than Chapman. The increase in students was accelerated when he opened the doors to anyone with a pulse. (It would have happened anyway baesed on the demograhics of N. Dak.). I don't agree with those who think you have no right to post because you don't agree with the prevailing opinions and you certainly bring the opposite bias to some discussions, but your opinion and attitude that Chapman was a great president and a victim of circumtance and maybe guilty of being over zealous loses credibility on this issue. He was dishonest, arrogant, self-serving and unethical at best. He was guilty of criminal conduct at worst. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between but I can't understand how anyone can defend this bum. The SBoHE is guilty of the fomer board chair enabling Chapman and covering for him when his superiors tried to get him to get in line. Hoeven is also guilty of enabling him when he sent a message to the board to "do whatever it takes to keep Chapman". That cost the state a couple of good Chancellers (Potts and Izaak). A good investigative reporter should be able to uncover the criminal behavior but then they and their employer will likely face the wrath of a lot of NDSU supporters and Fargo politicians who also had a hand in this.
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I spoke with Kelly before he started at UND and shortly after he arrived. Unless you are his wife and know he was not telling me the truth then you haven't a clue. When you don't know what you are talking about, you remind me of those who oppose the name then say whatever they wish to try and convince people on the rez the name is hostile. If you wish to take your $25 and spend it elsewhere, I hope you go a long way from here because you are the kind of people we can't count on when times are tough. I am glad I never had to go to war with the likes of you. The name doesn't change until next year at the earliest. Why abandon the teams, players, coaches, and the University now ?? You are just cheap! The NCAA forces UND to either change the name or they can't hold tounaments and they can't wear their uniforms with the logo in any playoffs or tournament games. It also limits some of the games and tounaments UND can play in because of some of the policies of other Universities. It is up to the tribes and UND staff and Alumni have been trying to get support from the tribes for years. If you know anything about tribal politics then you should know how difficult and unpredictable dealing with tribal government can be. Take your pennies buy some extra jerseys with the logos and then sit at the end of the bar with Norm and Cliff and lament about who didn't do what and how it is the end of the world. Do you know how pathetic it sounds when people say they won't support UND anymore because of the logo issue? It could still be saved but if you think Kelly is to blame you haven't been around very long nor paid attention to the facts. Three entities, the NCAA, and the two tribal governments are the powerbrokers in this game. If you wish to get even with someone, don't support any businesses on the reservations that won't support UND and don't support anything to do with the NCAA. If you abandon UND over this issue you aren't much of a fan. What do you think that will accomplish? It certainly won't help save the name.
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That is a sad reflection on a serious problem. I would hope the NDSU supporters would be outraged. This guy ran the budget into the ground ($11,000,000 below ground) and the reserves are used up. He got caught lying by the Attorney General of the State of N. Dak. who had him shaking and stammering and stating he couldn't remember things when the proof was shown that it was he who lied not Potts or the staff at SBoHE. It was Chapman and his stooge Paulsen who didn't think they needed to answer to the Chancellor or the SBoHE. Don't forget Chapman blamed many others at NDSU (who got crap on their noses whenever Chapman stopped suddenly) for all of the problems and sent his attorney to the SBoHE to try and take legal action agains the NDSU Foundation when they cut his $260,000 expense account. If you don't see the serious charcter flaw by now you never will. Bison folks don't believe what is on this board, ask Dick Hanson about the $11,000,000 shortfall and depleted reserves. Ask officials on the SBoHE to review minutes of Chapman's comments and conversations. If you just want to blame someone else like Chappy did, then it doesn't do any good to point out the obvious. The board would have excercised proper oversight on this guy a long time ago but Paulsen covered for him and Hoeven sent word to the board they needed to do whatever it took to keep this guy, thus the loss of Potts. Potts and Larry Izaak both saw this guy for the crook and liar he was, but Paulsen and Hoeven protected him. Things happen at UND too, but at least most of us get mad at the perpetrator of the problem rather than blame the piss ants.
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I will be attending meetings at Sanford Health this week. I was told Sanford-Merit Care is not making a $30,000,000 donation to NDSU by one of the administrators who should know. I will raise this very issue and voice a strong protest to the organization. We have been told that Sanford-Merit Care will be cutting benefits to physicians and maybe salaries to some physicians in the organization. I will tell you most of us will have a problem if the organization would waste that much money for NDSU athletics at the expense of physicians.
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Hey, I am just a hick from N. Dak. I didn't think anyone meant anything derogatory, I just thought we could find a better analogy. I am not judging anyone's inteligence and I understand the point. You are as well spoken as the rest of us and your point of this taking on greater meaning to some than face value is a good point. I also don't wish for the Fighting Sioux name supporters to waste time fighting with each other rather than supporting those who may still be able to do something to stop what seems to be the inevitable. I also don't think turning on our own whether it be the athletes, coaches, university etc. helps the issue and can only hurt our teams.
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Say, lets get all of these attorneys you reference to force the NCAA to let us keep the name! Lighten up Chewey. Didn't say anything bad about our esteemed legal professionals. (Only four attorneys in the family and lived with a couple of others going to school). By the way, some doctors are still using leeches and maggots. Send me your card and I will forward to their patients. Lets stick to the UND Fighting Sioux issue. Leave the Flag for a different blog and we can discuss the medical system on a different blog if you wish. I sincerely apologize to anyone (including Graham Cracker and Windy Boy) whom I may have offended.
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I didn't infer anyone is uneducated, I simply stated my opinion that it is sad if people who have experienced college, both the academic experience as well as the social experience to feel this is a good analogy. (not because they agree or disagree with me). Maybe the academic experience at UND has changed that much but I would hope people might understand where some folks might be offended by this analogy, especially if they have no horse in this race. I might argue about what passion I might have for UND but it is for the University, the teams, the athletes, the students, the fans and the traditions. That includes the name and logo but it is not defined by it. Maybe I am too old, but most combat veterans who are also former Sioux athletes would not compare the logo to the flag. As I stated, I doubt they meant it and probably hadn't thought it through. Has nothing to do with who is or isn't educated. Being educated doesn't mean you are intelligent. I am a supporter of the Fighting Sioux name and logo. I do get their point. I am not sure how you inferred I thought you were an idiot because you might disagree with me. However, counselor, now that you have stated you are an attorney.....
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I am sure you didn't mean this and I don't agree it is an excellent analogy. I don't think you thought this one through. The US flag stands for so much more than a bleeping logo of any sort. The flag and what it represents and the sacrifices made by so many so we can have this debate should never be forgotten. What that flag stands for should never in any way be compared to a college logo of any sort. Anyone who thinks so needs to step back and get a life. Many have been willing to give their lives for what that flag stands for. Fighting Sioux athletes play and compete for their fellow teamates, their coaches the University and our fans, not the logo. It is a great logo and UND has used the name and logo with class and respect but it is not and will never have the symbolism and importance of the Flag of the United states of America. That flag not only stands for freedom but the sight of that flag has given hope to so many over the years both in wartime and in peacetime. It is a sad reflection on where we are today as a nation for anyone especially a college student or college grad not to have been able to realize this is not a good analogy.
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Maybe to you $10 million is nothing but to Ralph $10-20 million is a lot of money. How did you think he became wealthy? Certainly not by being stupid and not by throwing his money away. UND didn't do anything wrong after they were given permissnion to use the name years ago. The activists and the Tribal governments changed their minds. We seem to have a lot of people looking for someone to blame and something someone else should have done. To many of the Native Americans, this issue isn't that important and that includes most who vote to support the name. They have more important things to worry about. I don't believe it is consistent with their own cultures claim of respecting their elders to go back on their previous approval of the name but the ball is in their court. Anyone who thinks UND sports is the name or logo is mistaken. It is a part of it, but the players, coaches and those relationships and the shared experience is what makes UND athletics including hockey tradition so strong. I would offer UND's resources of academic workshops, athletic coaches clinics etc. but I would not give one penny to anyone for the purpose of keeping the name.
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The problem with the finances at NDSU are not limited the Mansion fiasco. NDSU has an approximate $11,000,000 shortfall and have used up most of their reserve funds. Chapman seems to have moved funds from other accounts and used them to help athletics and other pet projects. They lowered their admission standards to let kids in that they would not have normally let in. That was not published in their official documents for admission standards however. One of the NDSU Cival Engineering grads who just moved back to his hime town, stated to me last week that when he went there as a freshman, they were taking "almost anyone". He said he could not believe his HS classmates who were accepted there. This was done to increase there student numbers. A problem with that is that state support and tuition only covers part of those costs and they did not have the money nor the infrastructure to support the additional students. Their numbers would likely have overtaken UND anyway because of the population of Fargo, West Fargo and surrounding area and the economy of Fargo as well as the drop at UND after the 1997 flood and fire. He needed to be patient and the numbers would have happended at a slower pace but it would not have caused the financial drain they are now facing. Hanson has done a good job except he should not have told the press he didn't fire the VP when he did. Too many of the Bison backers refuse to admit "Cheatin' Joe" ( I am not supposed to call him "Whiskey Joe" despite the amount of money he spent on entertainment) was anything but the great white buffaloe who moved the school forward and got them to be the premier D1 atheltic program in the country and is a victim of jealousy and the Fargo Forum's propensity to criticize Joe. They really believe he is soley responsible for the increase in numbers and soley responsible for the increase in research dollars but somehow he can't be held responsible for their $11,000,000 budget shortfall, the $250,000 expense account scandal, or the fact they are having trouble making their payments on some of the new properties. One of their former QB's who has a construction company and did some work on the mansion hasn't gotten paid. Chapman could possibly face criminal charges for illegally moving funds within the Uniersity. That VP wasn't fired because they didn't follow some optional guidelines. The end does not always justify the means and in this case Chapman has disgraced himself, his family and brought discredit to NDSU, the Fargo community, and the state of N. Dak. The Fargo community leaders who continue to cover for him are partly responsible. The Bison backers who follow this blog can fuss all they wish about where information comes from but everything I have said over the years about this clown is coming to fruition. There is nothing that is being learned in this audit that sheds any thing other than disgrace on this jerk. As Dick Hanson said, it is going to get worse and it is bad. It the Bison folks don't believe anyone else they might want to take to heart what one of their own loyal almni and forme star FB palyers, who has the facts and the inside information is saying.
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I agree the SBoHE should have waited. Those responsible? The NCAA, the late Myles Brand, actviists both Native and Non-Native, the PC crowd etc. The Summit is not responsible for this and I understand the wish to get into a conference. The Summit is irrelevant in this issue other than they want the issue resolved. Approval by the tribes is not dependent on what the Summit decison might be. The logo issue is a pain in the butt for anyone having to deal with it on a regular basis and if resolved, the Summit will be able to tell the PC crowd it was OK's by the Tribes/NCAA or it is going away. I would think they will not want to get involved in the issue in the future if those criteria are met. Not unreasonable and it is their league. I don't think much of the Summit but it is better than nothing and if UND, NDSU, USD and SDSU are in it that is a core of very solid former D2 powers who can only improve the league. What difference does it make what they do as long as we eventually get consideration if there are no better options? Somehow the opposition has been able to fractionate supporters to where we have UND hockey vs. all other non-hockey sports in some circles, others blaming FB supporters, Summit entry vs. non-entry and UND people shooting ourselves in the foot by turning on our own administration and our own teams and athletes. I am an old soldier. Don't give your adversaries any unearned advantage. Stay united and stay the course as best we can. What we read in the papers and what politicians tell us may not have all of the info and that info may not always be completely accurate.
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Kelly was hired because he was the best applicant for the job. Almost every person involved in the interview process felt he was the best choice. Where did you get the idea he was hired for the D1 move? He was not. That is ultimelately his responsibility but only a small part. What does his support for the Summit have to do with the move? The Summit League didn't stick UND with this and UND has to bring the logo/Sioux issue to a conclusion regardless of the Summit. Have you spoken with him? Why don't you do that? He is very accessible. He was at the Frozen Five in his Sioux Logo Jersey speaking with whomever talked to him. What exactly do you think "UND leadership" should be doing? Is there someone who thinks the successful resolution of this rests anywhere other than the tribal governments? If you don't think UND has tried to reach out to the tribal governments then you haven't been paying attention. The SBoHE has also tried to reach out. That is what the NCAA set up. Are you against the D1 move? We would be with the U of Mary's, U of Mn. Crookston's,, Moorhead State's (MSUM) etc. It cost us over $1,000,000 the last 4 Frozen Four years. Are you under the impression the hockey coaches are against the D1 move? I thought staying D2 for other sports other than hockey was a better fit until the NCAA diluted D2 and it is now a glorified D3. The flagship university of the state should be a D1 school. We once were in the same division as Northern Iowa, Montana, UNLV, Boise State etc. We should have moved up when UNI and Montana did years ago. Even if we stayed D2, we would still need to resolve this. The debate on the issue is full of so much misinformation about what our UND officials have the authority to do. It is hard to debate the issue when too many people don't have the facts. It is like the people who keep criticizing the natives for getting a "free" education. Kelly's most important task is not keeping the name. He job is to communicate to the tribes that UND still would like to keep the name and will continue to support NA progams and if the name is kept continue to use it with respect and class. He just like Presidents Starcher, Clifford, Baker and Kupchella have no authority over the tribal governments and neither does the SBoHE any more than you or I.
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Reminds me of the Natives who can't see how forcing the name change will hurt their cause in the long run. What will holding your support for our athletes, coaches, teachers and students do to advance the cause of the logo/name? Even if you don't see the leadership qualities of President Kelly, if you think holding donations is going to convince anyone to make a change in UND's leadership you are mistaken. The governing board with the authority to hire and fire just directed him and the University to make the change. I don't know that many people know what has gone on behind the scenes. I believe Kelly was told he would not have to deal with this issue before he was hired. He does have more important things to do. He was at the Final Five wearing his Sioux Hockey jersey as proudly as anyone. He gets threatened by you that you will hold donations and he gets threatened by others that they will hold donations if the name isn't changed. Unless the tribes make it happen I don't think the name will remain. Kelly needs to be smart enough to play it close to the vest right now. I am not sure we know what he has done to try and keep the name. I dont assume you hate UND I do know that you are willing to hurt UND and UND can't afford to lose any support right now. UND is trying to navigate the move to D1 and trying to get the hockey team back to the Frozen Four and another national championship. Holding donations will hurt recruiting and hurting recruiting can set programs back for years. The best fans in the world do not abandon their teams and the University when times are tough. If you can't get your message across without hurting the teams and your "beloved UND", then UND failed in educating you to effectively communicate and maybe you have a right to hold donations but don't do it for the wrong reason or with the idea it will help. Communicate your frustrations other ways. Set up an appointment and talk to President Kelly about how you feel. Call him and speak with him, I did when UND didn't hire Rob Bollinger as AD. Although it didn't change the ultimate decision, he listened and I was impressed with the depth at which he had researched and evaluated the situation. Other than Phil Jackson there aren't many former or present Sioux athletes (if any others0 who want the name changed, but the support of the fans is more important than the name or logo. Go Sioux!