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I am not that good of a golfer, but if I recall, the proper way to hit a guy with a sand wedge is to avoid grounding the club, cut down just a bit on your back swing, aim just behind the guys head then make sure you follow through. I golfed in the Siouxper swing with a guy who used a mulligan to through his club twice on the same bad shot. First throw was his two hand over the head tomahawk throw that only went about 15 yards. I reminded him he still had a mulligan so he fired a 5 wood about 26 yds.

I must have missed it, is Jordan Murray coming back?

Windy, If this is what it takes for it to be a good day to be native that is sad. Your leaders have dishonored your elders and ancestors who told UND and restated to UND in the past that the name was OK. That is not consistent with your Native Culture according to every single elder I have spoken with. I agree with you, and have stated some time ago, that it is past time for the name to change. I no longer wish for my University athletic teams to attempt to honor a group whose leaders have no honor. They do not show leadership on the reservations. The plight of the native children is pathetic. The tribal chair at Spirit lake is correct when she says they have more important things to worry about. The problem is, she needs to quit worrying and do something about those things. The guy at Standing Rock, His Horse is Smarter, is a blatant racist and shouldn't lead anyone. It makes no difference that the majority support the name, the tribal councils won't vote to support the name. (I am not sure you realize that those folks wouldn't ever be in leadership positions off of the rez). What should remain are programs to help native kids get a decent education and achieve the skills to get off the reservations and succeed in the real world. That should be for the kids on the rez as well as at UND. I will not enter any reservation unless necessary to pass thourgh and I will not support any reservation business. I will not vote for any political candidate who supports any reservation program not required by treaty or law nor will I donate money to their campaigns. I will support Native businesses off of the reservation and continue to work to help Native kids who wish to get an education and make a better life for themselves. You and your leaders have spoken and made it very clear we are not welcome and we will continue to be judged by you and your friend by our ethnicity. Your leaders have shown they will not honor those who have come before them and therefore can't be trusted. In the language of the people who kicked the Sioux the hell out of Minnesota, Migwetch. (it was the Chippewa not the Europeans).

I was told that this meeting will likely take steps to retire the Fighting Sioux name and if I "wanted Sioux gear or clothing to buy it now". Reason is that UND needs a D1AA conference and the Summit needs a traveling partner for USD. None of the referendums on the reservations are binding and therefore the tribal councils may do as they please. Obviously the vote at Spirit Lake didn't change the position of the tribal council there and the guy at Standing Rock, "his Horse is Smarter" isn't going to help. Doesn't matter if you support the name or not, it is time to move on. There is no reason to waste time and money over an issue we can't control.

Having an opinion is fine but it should be based on facts rather than myth. Not all of the NA programing is federal. Some are, some are combinations and there are foundation grant dollars for different foundations. It might be fair to evaluate programming and IF there is programming in place with discretionary funds started because of the Fighting Sioux name, take a look at it. Federal programs are not there based on the name. Programs are in place to help kids who may need help and unfortunately a higher percentage of the "at risk" kids come from areas where the economy is poor and that includes many reservations. If this issue doesn't get resolved, your way, avoid the casinos and don't do business with those leaders and businesses who you disagree with, especially those who have shown dishonesty and lack of integrity with regard to misinformation on this issue. Don't deprive kids of a chance at getting an education and bettering themselves. We have enough people in this country who lack the education to better there plight and too much of the resulting buden falls on those of us who pay taxes. It is cheaper and better for all of us to provide the opportunity for an education and help people help themselves no matter what ethnicity. It is not true that all NA students get a free education. There is programming in place to help NA students. The amounts differ per student and per program. I would not agree to payment for the use of the name. I would agree to outreach with our coaches and athletic teams and our educational resources for workshops for reservation teachers and students with our university professors and clinics on the reservations with our coaches and athletes. I would also suggest to President Kelly a requirement for community service for graduation with extra credit for time given to a reservation or for reservation kids. This issue can be used to build relationships and educate our respective communities in order to improve understanding and working relationships for reservation people and for our University community. That would do more good for more peopelethan anything the name does for our atheltic teams. The name and logo have and can continue to be great but it can't continue to be a detriment to our atheltic teams and hurt our chances of conference affiliation. There should be some way to be able to show thanks to those people who did so much work on the reservation to get this passed. If the stories in the paper are correct, it seems as if they took a lot of crap from the opponents.

The guy has a reasonable point. Many Bison fans are also UND hockey fans. I would hate to come to this web site and find there is no place for discourse or debate. Anyone who thinks Bison fans would be all that concerned about the name issue are mistaken. Many enjoy the whining and fuss and the fact that it any negative publicity for UND is good for them. I would hope most UND hockey fans are simply UND fans. Anyone who might feel threatened by what someone posts on this website about the subjects here might need to get out more.

Depends on the conditions at the cemetary so the opponents can get around and get the names off of the tombstones for the ballots. These guys basically said whatever it takes as long as they win. The truth or facts are not important . If the cemetaries are muddy or wet it may take a few weeks. If the vote doesn't turn out the way the opponents want it to, they may need more time to collect "absentee ballots".

That isn't even funny. You are suggesting a 6th grader break the law and make a false accusation about a teacher??? Some kids did that to a teacher some years ago in EGF at the old jr high and it was devastating. They later admitted they made it up but he was suspended even though he was innocent. Too many people will automatically assume the kid is telling the truth. That post should never appear on this board and I would hate to think came from a UND grad or fan. Wake up.

You are right. I missed they switched this topic to Hanstad rather than Storreston.

He is a Sr.

Hasn't committed. BB offer from Northern State and walk on offer from UND FB according to one of his teammates. I think he would come for a partial from either fb or bb but not sure. Great upside once he concerntrates on one sport. Hardnosed. Played QB and could be SS. Big question is how he would handle speed in BB. Has heart. I would take a chance on him in either sport.

Answer your phone if you still want them.

I stand corrected

Googel: Bunning, Thomas (former UND atheltic Director).

No one restricts who Lucia or any other Gopher coach recruits as long as they can meet the admission criteria. Where do you guys come up with that crap? Blais would take the U of Minn job if offered and recruit the best players he could to be successful.

Lucia took them to two titles. Those talking like that aren't any smarter than those who keep trying to throw Hakstol under the bus. He was a good coach at CC and he is still a good coach.

Agreed, easily the best class of the group from what we have seen so far. Manke, Trenbeath and Bruggeman were academic All-Americans weren't they?

That would be someone who has no clue. Looks good on paper right now and the coaches seem happy. How anyone thinks they know anything about these recruits (not having evaluated them on film, talked to their coaches, parents the kids and reviewed their grades and character) only proves they dont' know what they are talking about.

Makes sense. I assume their job is to keep those big ears from getting frostbite when its so damn cold. He maybe should have two bodyguards, one for each ear. That is more of a danger to this guy than someone attacking him. What a putz! The only thing in danger of being attacked is this guys enormous ego.

None of this is anything the legislators should be wasting their time on. Let the schools work it out. It will happen and is nothing you want politicians making laws over. If someone nees to intervene then the Chancellor can direct them to do this. Despite what some may think, the two presidents answer to the chancellor and the board.

Now I understand why Lucia (the coach) doesn't want his hockey players to play football in High School. They are pussies. I wouldn't want Lucia (the player) to play on my FB team either. He has shown himself to be a coward as well as a cheap shot. You couldn't count on him. I wouldn't go to war with him either but that is a totally different subject. These are the kids who play for a coach who doesn't want his recruits playing high school FB. They might get hurt. BFD. No wonder the Gophers got their ass kicked despite all the talent they have. If I wear on the Gopher hockey team I would kick lucia's ass for being a pussy and embarassing the rest of the team.

We have a library now? Ira, UND 1975.

I am sure some of you will love this but what the heck. Other than stand all game, what is unique about our student fans??? If you are not in the student section, and someone asks you to sit down, sit your ass down!. You can get up and cheer when something happens but otherwise what the hell is your point? If anyone thinks students standing the whole game is a big deal to the players, you have never played. They hear the level of noise and that can help. We are not in the same league as far as fan participation (both students and adults) compared with Wisc. and maybe even the Gophers. They have unique and coordinated cheers that the fans both students and adults know and do together and that includes their school songs. A lot of their cheers show some ingenuity. I seldom hear anything clever from our students anymore. We used to at least see some pretty clever signs behind the visitors penalty box. I don't even see that anymore. People on this board complain a lot about how they are treated at Gopher games, then seem smug when they comment about how the old UND fans can go home and watch it on TV if they don't like someone standing in front of them the whole game. At least at a Gopher game we get insulted by an opposing fan. There are also a number of negative references to those who have season tickets or are members of the Fighting Sioux Club. To those rubes, do you really think any University atheltic department can succeed without both the student support and the support of the Alumni? I have been going to UND hockey games for almost 40 years and our student section has never been this obnoxious to our own fans nor so weak both as far as a cheering section and the cleverness (or lack there of) one would expect from college students. Some people who attend hockey games actually work for a living and might be too tired to stand the whole game. Some people want to bring their kids and they can't see through some of the big butts in front of them. At the Frozen Four in St. Louis, there were 4 drunk UND students who swore at some of the UND Alumni of the so called "greatest generation" because they wanted to watch the game and the students wanted to stand. I wonder which of the fans we should be suggesting watch it on TV!

I would put him back at RB and they can use him as a receiver from there if they wish. He is pretty special as a RB. They can play him and Murray and split time if they need to or move them in the slot when they wish to. Hope he gets his grades up. If the person close to him is a friend they need to be enough of a friend to get him to class and keep his grades up.

' Jerry York has a lot of respect for Hakstol. So does Dean Blais. Those who have played Pee Wee hockey or video hockey don't have the same credibility in my mind. I didn't refer to current players. They are the ones who need to step up. If you don't think recruits reading posts are influenced by what they read, you have never recruited a kid to play college sports. I think you are mistaken. Every year people are critical of the coaching until the kids start playing better. I can read a roster. We have a lot of young kids playing. Those kids tend to make bigger steps from start to finish than older kids. This team will take time to develop and I am not sure we have the experience in the nets to win some of those games when we aren't scoring. I have been impressed with how hard the kids have worked to dig pucks out of the corners and to cycle the puck but we are losing, so most people are disappointed. We are also missing some key blue liners. I know we live in a socieity where we want what we want and want it now, but UND hockey's struggles thus far this year do not require a coaching change or even a discussion of one. If year after year the team doesn't get the job done, then you get a new coach. That isn't the case here.