The Sicatoka

Well, the most common hawks in ND are Cooper's and red tailed ...

Don't forget the American Association's Fargo-Moorhead RedHawks.

Volley: Raid your parents' email account (assuming) and vote for them.

You don't need to be the president if you are Geppetto and the president is your personal Pinocchio.

"I can get you any result you like. What's it worth to you?" -- the stranger from the cloud of smoke (Garden of Allah, Don Henley)

I have two UND degrees. So do I get four votes (tix, donor, degree x 2)?

That. Was. Painful.

In fairness to Qualtrics, which category would you put me into: donor, season ticket holder, or alumnus? I'm all three.

We'll know how the ND SBoHE perceives the campus climate. If they are fine with it they'll pick Kelley's minion; if not, they'll bring in fresh air (Schafer).

How is pointing out actual tribal religious beliefs any different than folks that (on this site) rolled out some of TR's less than PC quotes? Some say fact. Some say scare tactic. How about scary facts.

Exactly. That's why any Hawk logo would echo of the old UND geometric logo (angles, not feathers).

It's fact and truth. Please don't shoot the messenger.

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“The feathers and other parts of the red-tailed hawk are considered sacred to many American indigenous people and, like the feathers of the bald eagle and golden eagle, are sometimes used in religious ceremonies and found adorning the regalia of many Native Americans in the United States; these parts, most especially their distinctive tail feathers, are a popular item in the Native American community.” Source: Collier, Julie (Spring 2003). "The Sacred Messengers". Cross Paths 6 (1). Mashantucket Pequot Museum. Archived from the original on 2007-06-22. Retrieved 20 June 2007 So, how do you do a hawk logo without introducing hawk “feathers and other parts” sacred to indigenous peoples?

But from a ... < gasp! > ... Republican? The horror.

Uh folks ... the feathers of the most common hawk in ND are considered ... sacred to many American indigenous peoples.

Uh, no Fetch, what's happening at U of Missouri is PC on display in all its finest grandeur.

I bet you get your wish ... but it'll morph from this logo ... http://vector.me/files/images/6/9/69970/und_fighting_sioux.png My bet: it'll "morph" from the old geometric UND logo to a geometric hawk (see: Atlanta Falcons) and then many will realize they've been had.

Nope. A UND president (Kupchella) brought it out and said, "Here it is."

Quit revealing the process!!! (And don't underestimate the power of human stupidity to mess this up.)

I'll take the under. There's no way it took them three whole minutes to pull out the file they've used at a dozen other universities dumping a Native name.

Truth.

They might punt.