The Sicatoka

You're living here. Personally, I prefer to look at Sioux hockey this way:

cfm: Everyone seems to be screwing things up. http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?t=41728

All I know is that the lower bowl portion of the student section at REA had better be full night in and night out. It looks better on TV that way. Plus, if it's not, someone at REA just might start to pencil those in as "Coaches Club". Someone clearly needs to go ask some questions of Student Gov't as to why this "lottery" when they had worked on a "system" all summer.

cfm: This was Student Government controlled, not REA. I asked these same questions at USCHO: One response was that "fair weather fans" got tickets in the lower bowl and some "real, good fans" will have to sit in the upper. How do we know that? Consider my USCHO response to that:

The X is the better arena (i.e. capacity). As a side note, I've been in the third deck of The X watching a game. The players look bigger on a television screen. The Ralph is the better overall facility (arena, training spaces, additional spaces available). PS - Marble is soft. Those floors are granite.

What would one call a North Dakota professional hockey team? How about "Stanley Cup Champions"?

You mean .... a school scheduled an athletic program based on a post-season formula?

Fraction-wise about the same fraction of college hockey teams have a real shot at a national title as the fraction of DI football teams that have a real shot at a BCS title. Fraction-wise, it's probably the same for college basketball as college hockey also. (Who's picking IUPUI to win the Final Four? Alabama-Huntsville in the Frozen Four? Louisiana-Monroe for the BCS?) It's almost a requirement to be near the top in a top conference or you won't be strong enough to get it done. As far as arenas, when former (arch-rival) Gopher, NHLer, and US Olympian, Neil Broten says, "I've been in a lot of rinks, and there isn't any better than this," you know it's probably the best anywhere.

GF Herald story on enrollment numbers. Key notes from it: - UND has about 820 distance learners enrolled this fall, including 42 students who attend classes in UND's Fargo Center. - UND does not include in its count about 300 aviation students who take classes through the John D. Odegard School of Aerospace Sciences at satellite programs around the country. - Kupchella stresses that UND serves as many as 11,000 more people over its total head count, in some way or another, through the school's continuing education division.

It's been answered (correctly) twice so far, but I'll do it a different way: Century Club membership became required.

I just ran the numbers for the various levels of FSC and what you pay "per seat" if you buy the maximum number of hockey tickets each level of membership lets you buy. For example: Coaches Club: $1100 + (2 full price @ $345) + (2 reduced price @ 3/4 of $345) = $2307.5 or $576.88 per seat. Here are the numbers per seat for each level (level fee, full price tickets, reduced price tickets, number of parking passes included): Diamond: $1218.54 ($11000, 6, 6, 3) Emerald: $760.21 ($5500, 6, 6, 3) Directors: $645.63 ($2750, 4, 4, 2) Coaches: $576.88 ($1100, 2, 2, 1) Captains: $675.00 ($660, 2, 0, 0) Varsity: $510.00 ($330, 2, 0, 0) Century: $400.00 ($110, 2, 0, 0) I looked at Club Room Seating this summer. If I remember correctly, it was $1350.00 ... per seat. EDIT: Added in level fee costs to table.

InsideCollegeHockey.com's thoughts: http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/7Archiv...ockout_0301.htm

You mean a school scheduled an athletic program based on what would be best for that program in terms of a post-season formula?

Let's flip this around: What do you tell folks who paid serious bucks for club seating who can't even get from their seat to the bar during a period break? Alternatively, I hope they thought this one through regarding the folks that sit behind the Sioux bench (levels above Coaches Club).

I was looking at the wrong thing when I spoke the first time. They do have a level designation on them.

I'd say someone else read their UND pocket all-sports schedule. Brag away!

I am holding a document and as I read through it here are the non-probationary Division I schools that appear in the document. (Blank lines refer to new pages/sections of the document): U of Minnesota Roy Briak Invite Maine Minnesota Northeastern Boston College Wisconsin Canisius Denver Wisconsin Minnesota Ohio State Connecticut Wisconsin Quinnipiac Ohio State Vermont Wisconsin Minnesota Minnesota Air Force Wisconsin - Green Bay Minnesota Notre Dame Minnesota and U of Iowa Minnesota Challenge The first to specifically name the document (be specific) wins .... bragging rights to being right, and nothing more.

A Wild wing huh? A Panther prowls my neck of the woods.

A new 6000 seat arena at Gonzaga cost them $23 MM. Comparable enough? Let me say this again: Why build The Betty larger? Look at the easy scaling available to UND: 3500-4000 seats - The Betty 5000-6000 seats - The Ralph (lower bowl and suites) 8000-9000 seats - The Alerus Center (BB config.) 10000-13000 seats - The Ralph (full house) star2city makes an excellent point in using that difference in dollars to work on other facilities needs (Olympic sports, baseball, more training space). PS - I'll say it again: Gonzaga's BB program has played in a 4000 seat arena up to this point. Sounds just like the size of The Betty to me and Gonzaga doesn't have options like The Al and The Ralph.

The difference between the situations? The season ticket holder sections of The Ralph are sold out plus it's a high-interest student event (sections normally full). There are football season tickets still available in 201-209, the season ticket holder sections, at The Al; plus, there is still space (normally) available in the student section. As mentioned, it's supply and demand: Worry about that $5 when the student and season ticket sections at The Al are jammed for a full season or two. Until then let the students go at no charge (other than the student fees) and enjoy the game and boost the attendance numbers in the process.

Permanent seats = no more indoor track facility. Gotta think these things through.

star2city said: Put head-to-head with 9000 in the seats, it gets to be a pretty tough call. EDIT: I see star2city has clarified.

No, the blue dots are just old land grants. "Flagship" can mean whatever the author wants it to mean at the time. USA Today picked theirs. PS - I'm pretty sure "land grant" doesn't mean much to a newspaper that seems to focus primarily on two kinds of schools: Ivy League and all the rest.

"If a school falls to far behind, in terms of facilities and quality of teams they risk losing far more than if they spent money up front and still incurred annual loses." Exactly. Hence the "arms race" of building facilities: You have to keep building more and better just to stay in the race. If you don't have the facilities you're not even in the race. Hence the statement: On a lighter note, Geiger making that statement echos of the Soviets (with their past massive arsenal) talking about the nuclear arms race.