Swept again!

[buckysieve]

You're right. The season's over for UND. The NCAA might as well give the national championship trophy to the Gophers right now because of their superior freshman class. The Sioux have no chance.

Yeah, cause that's exactly what I said. If you cannot admit that this freshmen class for the Sioux is the weakest that they've brought in in a number of years than you've proven you cannot be objective. Like I've said before that's more of a compliment to previous classes rather than a shot at this one. I'm sure in the next couple years it will turn out to be a good class but as of now the Sioux are not getting a lot of positive contributions from them. Stop looking at your team through green colored glasses for once and stop taking everything I say as an insult towards the Sioux rather than an objective and realistic opinion.

[redwing77]

Yeah, cause that's exactly what I said. If you cannot admit that this freshmen class for the Sioux is the weakest that they've brought in in a number of years than you've proven you cannot be objective. Like I've said before that's more of a compliment to previous classes rather than a shot at this one. I'm sure in the next couple years it will turn out to be a good class but as of now the Sioux are not getting a lot of positive contributions from them. Stop looking at your team through green colored glasses for once and stop taking everything I say as an insult towards the Sioux rather than an objective and realistic opinion.

Since when were the freshmen expected to be the main driving force for our team? That designation belongs to our sophomores.

I won't try to explain it any further than that. I'm not sure I could express it clearly enough.

[buckysieve]

Oh yeah, 2007 looks like a great class on paper...

You're right, it does look like a great class and the previous classes have been great. It just proves even more that this was a down year recruiting wise. I'm not sure why some fans on here(PCM) find that to be such an offensive thing to say.

[redwing77]

You're right, it does look like a great class and the previous classes have been great. It just proves even more that this was a down year recruiting wise. I'm not sure why some fans on here(PCM) find that to be such an offensive thing to say.

I guess some people interpet the phrase "you're wrong" as offensive.

[buckysieve]

Since when were the freshmen expected to be the main driving force for our team? That designation belongs to our sophomores.

They're not expected to be the MAIN driving force for ANY team. But at elite programs they are expected to contribute more than this one has especially during this time of early departures.

[redwing77]

They're not expected to be the MAIN driving force for ANY team. But at elite programs they are expected to contribute more than this one has especially during this time of early departures.

And it's been proven time and time again (Last year's Sioux team can even attest to this) that when freshmen are relied upon to be anything more than freshmen, they are doomed to fail.

Look at this stunning reliance on the Gophers on Okposo. Sure, he's not the MAIN reason the Gophers are winning, but what if he hits a slump? How will that affect UMN's offense?

I think UND's freshmen class is doing just fine for their conditioning. Zajac has been pretty solid, Genoway a pleasant surprise. Forney is still hampered (I bet) with his shoulder. Vandevelde improves every time he feels ice under his skates in a game situation. I really don't think this freshman class is "bad" by any comparison. What is making this team bad is poor goaltending and bad team play. I guess sophomore slump could be a part as well.

[Goon]

The loss of Spirko is looming large at this point of the season.

I think losing Spriko is proving to be bigger and bigger all the time. Spirko was a play maker and a good power play specialist.

[Lives-to-play-hockey-06]

You're right. The season's over for UND. The NCAA might as well give the national championship trophy to the Gophers right now because of their superior freshman class. The Sioux have no chance.

This is the stupidest post ive seen in my life, he never said that. I always like it when morons come back with a post that completely distorts what the previous poster says. That just shows me one thing, that you agree with what he says so you don't dare say anything against what he said so you twist it so it looks worse.

[PCM]

If you cannot admit that this freshmen class for the Sioux is the weakest that they've brought in in a number of years than you've proven you cannot be objective.

I can't admit it because...now pay attention...

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE!

Do you not understand the idea that most recruits play for more than half a season? Do you not understand that every player isn't an instant success his freshman season? Do you not understand that there's no way you can say such a thing about a highly regarded recruit like Michael Forney who hasn't been at 100 percent for most of the season?

When this season is done, then you can more accurately judge the impact of this freshman class. And when their careers are done at UND, you can say with great certainty how weak or how strong this particular class was. But until then, there's no way you can claim that your opinion is objective.

[Lives-to-play-hockey-06]

And it's been proven time and time again (Last year's Sioux team can even attest to this) that when freshmen are relied upon to be anything more than freshmen, they are doomed to fail.

Look at this stunning reliance on the Gophers on Okposo. Sure, he's not the MAIN reason the Gophers are winning, but what if he hits a slump? How will that affect UMN's offense?

I think UND's freshmen class is doing just fine for their conditioning. Zajac has been pretty solid, Genoway a pleasant surprise. Forney is still hampered (I bet) with his shoulder. Vandevelde improves every time he feels ice under his skates in a game situation. I really don't think this freshman class is "bad" by any comparison. What is making this team bad is poor goaltending and bad team play. I guess sophomore slump could be a part as well.

I agree the freshman aren't playing poorly. Genoway is looking good, I like Vande velde. Zajac is also playing well and the others don't see alot of ice so you can't expect much out of them.

[PCM]

This is the stupidest post ive seen in my life, he never said that. I always like it when morons come back with a post that completely distorts what the previous poster says. That just shows me one thing, that you agree with what he says so you don't dare say anything against what he said so you twist it so it looks worse.

Please read the stupid, moronic post I made right before this one to find out how much I agree with him.

PS: I guess I should have added this to the post you referenced. Apparently you, like buckyseive, are sarcasm challenged.

[PCM]

I think losing Spriko is proving to be bigger and bigger all the time. Spirko was a play maker and a good power play specialist.

There's one thing that Spirko would have added that the Sioux are now sorely lacking: experience. There is no subsitute for it.

When the game was on the line for Wisconsin on Saturday, Mike Eaves put it in the hands of his most experienced players, his seniors. It paid off with a power play goal by Dowell that was set up by Carlson and two goals by Carlson that were set up by Joudrey.

Having Spirko on the power play would be nice, but having him on the penalty kill would be even better.

[AZSIOUX]

having spirko would be great, also add jpar, zajac, stafford and smaby to the list.....they are gone for good.........the gophers, du and badgers can say the same thing about some players, we are not playing well so thats why these seem such huge losses.........

[Fetch]

[Lives-to-play-hockey-06]

Please read the stupid, moronic post I made right before this one to find out how much I agree with him.

PS: I guess I should have added this to the post you referenced. Apparently you, like buckyseive, are sarcasm challenged.

He says the gophers had a better recruiting class, then you come back and say the your right the Sioux have no chance of winning. I know your being sarcastic.

Why do you try to spin peoples words. He never said the sioux had no chance, you had no response to what he posted so you decided to misquote him and say "your right they should just give the championship to the gophers".

He makes a point of how the sioux had a weak recruiting class and you turn it around and make it look like he said they have no chance of winning.

Thats why your a moron.

[PCM]

Why do you try to spin peoples words. He never said the sioux had no chance, you had no response to what he posted so you decided to misquote him and say "your right they should just give the championship to the gophers".

With that statement, you're in no position to call anyone stupid or a moron. I never said he said that. I said that. Do you understand the difference between the words I write and the words he writes? Do you understand why I said that buckyseive is in no position to judge UND's recruiting class for this season until the season is done? It's a fairly simple point. Do you understand it? Or are you going to continue to be obtuse and miss the point in every response to me?

He makes a point of how the sioux had a weak recruiting class and you turn it around and make it look like he said they have no chance of winning.

I'm belittling the idea that the bs keeps repeating about UND being sunk because this freshman class is far below UND's standards which is somthing that only time can prove. It's a ludicrous statment at this point of the season. It means nothing.

Thats why your a moron.

Nice personal attack. Take an English class, genius.

[PCM]

having spirko would be great, also add jpar, zajac, stafford and smaby to the list.....they are gone for good.........

I understand that. But Spirko's loss was unexpected. The others weren't.

[THETRIOUXPER]

He says the gophers had a better recruiting class, then you come back and say the your right the Sioux have no chance of winning. I know your being sarcastic.

Why do you try to spin peoples words. He never said the sioux had no chance, you had no response to what he posted so you decided to misquote him and say "your right they should just give the championship to the gophers".

He makes a point of how the sioux had a weak recruiting class and you turn it around and make it look like he said they have no chance of winning.

Thats why your a moron.

livestoplaywithyourself, you have no room to be calling anyone else a moron. Especially a guy like PCM. He's got more credibility in his little finger than you'll ever have in a lifetime. Guys like you, bucky, and xwhateverhisdumbassis, are nothing more than pot stirring idiot's. You want to call someone a moron save it for me, I actually desrve it, and enjoy it cause I know all about jackasses like you. Open your eyes and your ears when a guy like PCM talks, you might learn something, if you are capable. If not he's going to make you look dumb (or more dumb than you are already, if that's possible.)

[AZSIOUX]

I understand that. But Spirko's loss was unexpected. The others weren't.

yes it was and i know what you are saying but there were rumbling even on this board he was jumping ship and heading back overseas mid season........and that he sure did

[buckysieve]

Do you not understand the idea that most recruits play for more than half a season? Do you not understand that every player isn't an instant success his freshman season? Do you not understand that there's no way you can say such a thing about a highly regarded recruit like Michael Forney who hasn't been at 100 percent for most of the season?

When this season is done, then you can more accurately judge the impact of this freshman class. And when their careers are done at UND, you can say with great certainty how weak or how strong this particular class was. But until then, there's no way you can claim that your opinion is objective.

I've said in at least two different posts that in a couple years it will probably be a good class. But it's certainly not an immediate impact type class like the one last year for the Sioux. Last year the Gophers and Sioux were fairly evenly matched. Both teams lost great talent from early departures. This year the gophers freshmen have 38 goals while the Sioux freshmen have 8. The Gophers haven't missed a beat and the Sioux are struggling. If the Sioux had one of their typical freshmen classes this year I doubt they'd be struggling as much.

Three years ago you brought in Brady Murray. Two years ago you brought in Travis Zajac. Last year you brought in Toews, Oshie, and Duncan. This year not one freshmen is having an impact even close to those players and the Sioux are down partly as a result of that. That's why I think it's a down class.

[PCM]

I've said in at least two different posts that in a couple years it will probably be a good class. But it's certainly not an immediate impact type class like the one last year for the Sioux.

Is the season over?

[Diggler]

Is the season over?

You're right. The season's over for UND. The NCAA might as well give the national championship trophy to the Gophers right now because of their superior freshman class. The Sioux have no chance.

I'm sensing mixed signals.

[PCM]

I'm sensing mixed signals.

You would.

[Redneksioux]

I'm sensing mixed signals.

Did someone say trophy gopher?

[Lives-to-play-hockey-06]

livestoplaywithyourself, you have no room to be calling anyone else a moron. Especially a guy like PCM. He's got more credibility in his little finger than you'll ever have in a lifetime. Guys like you, bucky, and xwhateverhisdumbassis, are nothing more than pot stirring idiot's. You want to call someone a moron save it for me, I actually desrve it, and enjoy it cause I know all about jackasses like you. Open your eyes and your ears when a guy like PCM talks, you might learn something, if you are capable. If not he's going to make you look dumb (or more dumb than you are already, if that's possible.)

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