nodakvindy Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The NCAA released a report today on academic performance by member school's athletic teams. The APR index is the first time the NCAA has tied performance to the ability to offer scholarships. A total of 99 teams lost scholarships because of poor scores. Hockey was one of the few men's sports to have no teams affected and had the fourth highest overall score. Two schools did have failing scores, but were grandfathered in under a "squad size factor" that is in place for the first few years as the small data set could produce misleading results. You can read more at www.ncaa.org where this is the lead story right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 The NCAA released a report today on academic performance by member school's athletic teams. The APR index is the first time the NCAA has tied performance to the ability to offer scholarships. A total of 99 teams lost scholarships because of poor scores. Hockey was one of the few men's sports to have no teams affected and had the fourth highest overall score. Two schools did have failing scores, but were grandfathered in under a "squad size factor" that is in place for the first few years as the small data set could produce misleading results. You can read more at www.ncaa.org where this is the lead story right now. North Dakota and Anchorage were the two schools that had the failing scores. Both schools should be close enough to the mark that they should be fine by next year as long as they take careful care with their athletes. St. Cloud was below the mark last year and they were able to recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 UND's report shows that our hockey score is less than stellar (you must be above 925 to avoid punishment; for the percentile report, being close to 0 is bad). Ironically, the recent trend of UND being considered a good farm for the NHL hurts our graduation rate, which hurts APR, which will eventually result in scholarship reductions (which will make it harder to get the top NHL-bound players?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 UND's report shows that our hockey score is less than stellar (you must be above 925 to avoid punishment; for the percentile report, being close to 0 is bad). Ironically, the recent trend of UND being considered a good farm for the NHL hurts our graduation rate, which hurts APR, which will eventually result in scholarship reductions (which will make it harder to get the top NHL-bound players?) I thought the APR didn't penalize for leaving early. If someone left after there sophamore year that was fine so long as they had progressed through a sophamore year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I know this includes all student athletes, found it interesting and made me proud. The UND Athletic Department is proud to announce that UND athletics has the top graduation rate for student athletes in the North Central Conference. According to the NCAA's recently released 2005 Graduation Rates Report, 71% of UND's student athletes graduated; the schoolwide average was 54%. This NCAA report is based on graduation rate of all scholarship freshmen who started in the fall of 1998. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMD Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Under "Defining Academic Reform"... 0-for-2. "This term is the equivalent of a four-letter-word when it comes to reform. An "0-for-2" student-athlete is one who is neither academically eligible nor remains with the institution. An 0-for-2 player might be one who transfers, leaves the institution for personal reasons or leaves to turn pro and would not have been academically eligible had he or she returned. Obviously, these are the types of situations the academic-reform structure is most meant to address since they are the most damaging to a team's APR. While teams cannot always control the reasons student-athletes leave, the contemporaneous penalty holds them accountable for at least making sure student-athletes are academically eligible during their college tenures." I believe this makes it clear that a student leaving to "turn pro"...still costs the school a point. BTW...the Women's APR is 961. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Under "Defining Academic Reform"... 0-for-2. "This term is the equivalent of a four-letter-word when it comes to reform. An "0-for-2" student-athlete is one who is neither academically eligible nor remains with the institution. An 0-for-2 player might be one who transfers, leaves the institution for personal reasons or leaves to turn pro and would not have been academically eligible had he or she returned. Obviously, these are the types of situations the academic-reform structure is most meant to address since they are the most damaging to a team's APR. While teams cannot always control the reasons student-athletes leave, the contemporaneous penalty holds them accountable for at least making sure student-athletes are academically eligible during their college tenures." I believe this makes it clear that a student leaving to "turn pro"...still costs the school a point. BTW...the Women's APR is 961. ...only if they were academically inelgible to return to school if they had not turned pro. But if they were academically elgible to return to school and turned pro, what category do they fall into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMD Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 ...only if they were academically inelgible to return to school if they had not turned pro. But if they were academically elgible to return to school and turned pro, what category do they fall into? This was just an example to show the worst case scenario for an institution...an 0-for-2...like MTU after this weekend! Still under "Defining Academic Reform"... Academic Progress Rate (APR). "The APR is the fulcrum upon which the entire academic-reform structure rests. Developed as a more real-time assessment of teams' academic performance than the six-year graduation-rate calculation provides, the APR awards two points each term to student-athletes who meet academic-eligibility standards and who remain with the institution. A team's APR is the total points earned by the team at a given time divided by the total points possible." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Some, such as Syracuse's Jim Boeheim, praised the APR's intent in the summer but said the formula was flawed because it punishes the most talent-laden teams that lose non-seniors to the NBA draft. Adjustments were made so a team's APR score would not be hampered as long as the non-senior was academically eligible when he turned pro. Schools Face Academic Sanctions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Thank Parise that Travis Roach is gone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMD Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Schools Face Academic Sanctions Same article...sound familiar? Critics suggest the reform package is the latest example of how the NCAA practices selective enforcement, making examples of less recognizable schools while bigger programs operate without penalty. New article... "Q. Why were so many baseball teams affected? A. Baseball has several factors working against it. The sport's heavy travel schedule, the large number of players leaving school early to turn professional and a high transfer rate compared with football and basketball could account for some of the low numbers." Can someone find a tie-breaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 It's a weird issue that I don't believe many people are quite clear on. One thing to keep in mind though is that a school like Michigan loses just as many, if not more players, early to the pros each year and they still managed to score a 982 on the APR. Same with a school like Minnesota. So I think the issue probably runs a little deeper than players leaving school to turn pro, regardless of how the NCAA calculates it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotadan Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 One thing to keep in mind though is that a school like Michigan loses just as many, if not more players, early to the pros each year and they still managed to score a 982 on the APR. Same with a school like Minnesota. So I think the issue probably runs a little deeper than players leaving school to turn pro, regardless of how the NCAA calculates it. That is because going to one of these schools is similar to going to a community college. I am sure their class schedule is a difficult one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND Pride Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I thought the APR didn't penalize for leaving early. If someone left after there sophamore year that was fine so long as they had progressed through a sophamore year. Not sure what the situation is relating to their sophomore year. Hopefully, when they get to their sophomore year they will be able to spell it correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMD Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Can someone find a tie-breaker? Data verifies rationale for Academic Progress Rate adjustment March 09, 2006 The NCAA News Helpful Links Email this article Print this article -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- History of Academic Reform Academic Reform NCAA News Articles and Press Releases Data from the 2004-05 Academic Progress Rate cohort appear to verify the rationale for an adjustment made to the APR last year that accommodates student-athletes who turn pro and maintain their eligibility. Of the 839 student-athletes in 2004-05 who left for the professional ranks, 541 maintained their eligibility for the term during which they left. In men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Yay for me! Then I get to go home tonite. That will keep my ego in check. It's still a bit unfair in those cases where an athlete leaves for the pros. In many of those cases it seems like once they know they are on the way out, they quit working at school, so their last quarter/semester would often put them in the ineligible category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 The new APR Data came out two days ago. UND Men's hockey is up to 930. That's very bad, but just good enough to avoid sanctions (which kick in at 925). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodakvindy Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 The new APR Data came out two days ago. UND Men's hockey is up to 930. That's very bad, but just good enough to avoid sanctions (which kick in at 925). Not a huge shock with five early departures. It will be interesting to see how the APR affects recruiting. It seems it will put a premium on four year players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Not a huge shock with five early departures. It will be interesting to see how the APR affects recruiting. It seems it will put a premium on four year players. Aren't there bonuses for players that leave early, but then subsequently finish their degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMD Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 The new APR Data came out two days ago. UND Men's hockey is up to 930. That's very bad, but just good enough to avoid sanctions (which kick in at 925). 941 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherz Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 941 Gophers are only at 950, not much better. What's the deal with below a certain number? Our basketball team is at 910. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux7>5 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Gophers are only at 950, not much better. What's the deal with below a certain number? Our basketball team is at 910. How does UND rank among other WCHA teams? That is what I want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherz Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 How does UND rank among other WCHA teams? That is what I want to know. If I wasn't attemping to study for Finals coming up next week atleast a little bit I'd do this but... http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/home?WCM_GL...ata_J5lt9A.html I'll leave it to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxman Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 UAA - 917 UND - 941 SCSU - 944 MSU - 948 UMTC - 950 UMD - 951 WI - 959 MTU - 960 CC - 986 DU - 988 Looks like we have plenty of room to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux7>5 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Thanks for sharing the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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