Prospective Recruits

[nascar99]

4 hours ago, RhettRingers said:

So why are you so hell bent on a "high end" CHL player?

If you build a well rounded veteran roster, you still typically need a high end player or two to take you over the top. Those guys give you more margin for errors for the rest of the roster IMHO.

It'll be interesting to see if/when high end CHLers help lead their teams to National Championships, then we gain a sample size of how these high profile high scoring guys affect the NCAA when the games matter most 

[scpa0305]

33 minutes ago, .357 said:

Who says they would have even wanted to go to Michigan if there was room for them there? Plus if UND had a damaged reputation, there are plenty of other quality schools in all the major conferences that Homer, Morris, Menghini et al. could have played at instead of UND. But they chose UND, which means that UND's reputation isn't as tarnished as some think.

Contrary to what many think here, the college hockey world doesn't revolve around Michigan. It's nauseating how some here put them on a pedestal. If anything, they've demonstrated over the last 25 yrs that 1-dimensional forwards don't win a team championships.

It was just an example. I used Michigan because they pulled a top flight blue chip this morning and by the sounds of it, they’re not done. Does that mean they’ll win a natty? No.

I’m sure other schools were in on the transfers you referred to. UND is a great spot to keep developing and those players know that. They were also told what their role would be, which I’m assuming was driving their decision. Were they high end prospects? No, not at all. But they’ve all worked themselves into being wanted come portal times. Which is exciting if you’re a UND fan. I’d honestly rather bring these guys in than 6-7 rd 18-19 year olds out of juniors. 

[tnt]

I will be very interested to see what recruits we can get in August this year.   Some may do their due diligence and make their decisions later, but I imagine there will be some that commit shortly after August 1.  Work your magic Chyzyk. 

[RhettRingers]

3 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

If you build a well rounded veteran roster, you still typically need a high end player or two to take you over the top. Those guys give you more margin for errors for the rest of the roster IMHO.

It'll be interesting to see if/when high end CHLers help lead their teams to National Championships, then we gain a sample size of how these high profile high scoring guys effect the NCAA when the games matter most 

My point is why does it have to be a CHL player? Find the guys that fit your team the best.

 

 

[nascar99]

7 minutes ago, RhettRingers said:

My point is why does it have to be a CHL player? Find the guys that fit your team the best.

 

 

Because the high end USHLers (not many of them) are already committed. The new player pool that has opened up is the CHL, tons more high enders & who aren't committed. The only thing is those guys might still just sign their ELC and forego the NCAA.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

8 minutes ago, RhettRingers said:

My point is why does it have to be a CHL player? Find the guys that fit your team the best.

 

 

Exactly , lots of players out there. 

[scpa0305]

1 hour ago, nascar99 said:

Because the high end USHLers (not many of them) are already committed. The new player pool that has opened up is the CHL, tons more high enders & who aren't committed. The only thing is those guys might still just sign their ELC and forego the NCAA.

Well then flip them. If my kid is committed to Michigan and they then add a few CHL studs…you better hope my ears are perked as far as other opportunities. At this point, the gentleman’s agreement from years past is out the door. 

[beastandco]

7 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

Well then flip them. If my kid is committed to Michigan and they then add a few CHL studs…you better hope my ears are perked as far as other opportunities. At this point, the gentleman’s agreement from years past is out the door. 

I do think they will keep a spot open into the summer for any late decommits if they are not able to get any impact players in the next month. Worst case scenario is they bring in one of their recruits early as a depth guy

[.357]

2 hours ago, RhettRingers said:

So why are you so hell bent on a "high end" CHL player?

Because like @nascar99 pointed out, the USHL confectionery store has already been sold out of premium candies & no more will be available until they get their next shipment in the fall.

I'm not saying to emulate MI & put all your hopes on some 1-year mercenaries, but it's nice to have that 20g/20a (at least) guy who can be a difference-maker in close games. I like the way Jackson is constructing the roster, but it seems to be lacking that 1 dynamo to take it to the next level. Plus pinning your first line on an unproven Zellers with no high scorers to complement him may not be the wisest of decisions. 

 

[beastandco]

17 minutes ago, .357 said:

Because like @nascar99 pointed out, the USHL confectionery store has already been sold out of premium candies & no more will be available until they get their next shipment in the fall.

I'm not saying to emulate MI & put all your hopes on some 1-year mercenaries, but it's nice to have that 20g/20a (at least) guy who can be a difference-maker in close games. I like the way Jackson is constructing the roster, but it seems to be lacking that 1 dynamo to take it to the next level. Plus pinning your first line on an unproven Zellers with no high scorers to complement him may not be the wisest of decisions. 

 

There probably is less than 10 freshman next year capable of putting up those numbers and Zellers is one of them. 

[scpa0305]

14 minutes ago, beastandco said:

There probably is less than 10 freshman next year capable of putting up those numbers and Zellers is one of them. 

That’s aggressive.

[beastandco]

36 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

That’s aggressive.

There are few players currently committed to a college team that have higher expectations than Zellers. He had a better season than Jackson Blake in the USHL before Blake came to campus. Scoring at the rate that he did this year is rare. Anything less than 30 points would be a disappointment for him next year

[crb1]

Well I guess we will see how this all shakes out but all this NIL money and revenue sharing money these schools have hasn’t gotten them squat yet. At some point these donors are going to be hesitant to keep throwing money in a pit that doesn’t provide any sort of ROI. I don’t care how much money you have. 

[Brett0909]

13 minutes ago, crb1 said:

Well I guess we will see how this all shakes out but all this NIL money and revenue sharing money these schools have hasn’t gotten them squat yet. At some point these donors are going to be hesitant to keep throwing money in a pit that doesn’t provide any sort of ROI. I don’t care how much money you have. 

Guess it depends on how you define success. A lot of these loaded teams are doing well and making the tournament, and sometimes the frozen four. Add on that they get to watch future superstars all season play incredibly entertaining hockey along the way, and I wouldn’t say that they are getting nothing for their investment.

I’m sure some of them expect to be in the running for a championship every year when they load up like this, but associating these top superstars with your school has a huge lasting effect. I, for one, would take watching elite studs do things only top players can do while competing all the way up to a championship, even if they don’t win it every year. Obviously every dimension is a whole lot better than what we’ve been seeing lately... 

[scpa0305]

2 hours ago, beastandco said:

There are few players currently committed to a college team that have higher expectations than Zellers. He had a better season than Jackson Blake in the USHL before Blake came to campus. Scoring at the rate that he did this year is rare. Anything less than 30 points would be a disappointment for him next year

20 and 20? I’ll take the under haha  I do hope he hits 30 pts though….not sure he’ll have the O talent around him. 

[siouxweet]

The top end CHLers are in all liklihood one and dones.  This team is a year or two away from making a serious run in the tourney and Jax is looking for the 2-3 if not 4 year player to build the program. 

[cberkas]

Beau Jelsma to Providence

Logan McCutcheon to Quinnipiac 

Jaden Lipinski to Maine. Surprised he didn't go to Arizona State

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

10 hours ago, RhettRingers said:

The players representation is my source. Other two are just common knowledge.

@.357 doesn’t know common knowledge and is just learning the landscape of college sports as a whole. It’s alright buddy, we’ll teach you as we go

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

10 hours ago, .357 said:

But according to you, not any "decent" WHL guys, right? 

 

For 2025-26 they aren’t going to get the top CHL guys. In the future, they will be very much in the discussion for a large group of those guys

[nascar99]

27 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Beau Jelsma to Providence

Logan McCutcheon to Quinnipiac 

Jaden Lipinski to Maine. Surprised he didn't go to Arizona State

Antonin Verreault to Quinnipiac, another nice pickup for them

[.357]

53 minutes ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said:

@.357 doesn’t know common knowledge and is just learning the landscape of college sports as a whole. It’s alright buddy, we’ll teach you as we go

You're quite the piece of work. What are you, 15 yo? 

[nascar99]

12 hours ago, siouxweet said:

The top end CHLers are in all liklihood one and dones.  This team is a year or two away from making a serious run in the tourney and Jax is looking for the 2-3 if not 4 year player to build the program. 

The elite of elite CHLers (as well as those coming from the NTDP/USHL) are 1 & done. The normal good guys should be at least 2 year guys, maybe even 3. Gavin McKenna only needs one year at Michigan, Malcolm Spence likely needs 2 years there unless he has a Dylan Larkin (or better) esque freshman season.

Also depends on how patient the NHL teams who hold their rights are.

[tnt]

12 hours ago, siouxweet said:

The top end CHLers are in all liklihood one and dones.  This team is a year or two away from making a serious run in the tourney and Jax is looking for the 2-3 if not 4 year player to build the program. 

A lot of people think that a team Schlossman picked to finish 7th in the league in Western Michigan would be a few years before they could make a run.  Same with Penn State.   If Jackson can get guys to buy in, he is already ahead of the game.  I mean how many times did we win the hardest conference in college hockey and didn't make a run.