scpa0305 Posted April 30 Posted April 30 1 hour ago, yzerman19 said: your point and reference are fair. I just gotta say...Puck Preps...of all the "pay for" services, they seem to be most disconnected from the real scouting universe from what I've seen and know. Oh I agree about PP. Quote
tnt Posted May 1 Posted May 1 3 hours ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: Called him a depth player… so not mid tier… I think we’re ok letting this one go. I think if we are talking depth players, then in line with Jackson’s strategy it probably needs to be someone connected to the region or the program, otherwise you may be needing to replace them often because if they aren’t playing they are more apt to enter the portal. Not sure how many guys like Coltyn Sanderson would stick around with today’s portal, and the reason he became a contributor on a Championship team is because he put in the time with the program and knew what the coaches expected of him. Need those depth guys that can fill in and have experience from being upperclassmen. 2 Quote
nascar99 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Dane & Bryn better be on the phone with James Patrick about getting Reschny to Grand Forks 1 Quote
yzerman19 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 remember, only kids that aren't that good are thrilled to just be on the team.... Quote
scpa0305 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Luke Misa to PSU….very interesting. Are they going to pull his bro too? Solid play by the lions Quote
beastandco Posted May 5 Posted May 5 1 minute ago, scpa0305 said: Luke Misa to PSU….very interesting. Are they going to pull his bro too? Solid play by the lions Would be shocked if Michael ended up there. He seems likely to sign his ELC after he’s drafted top 2/3. I think this move by his bro makes it more likely that he goes pro. A top 3 draft prospect going to Penn State just does not make sense in my head 1 Quote
nascar99 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, beastandco said: Would be shocked if Michael ended up there. He seems likely to sign his ELC after he’s drafted top 2/3. I think this move by his bro makes it more likely that he goes pro. A top 3 draft prospect going to Penn State just does not make sense in my head Although Marek alluded to Penn State throwing bags of NIL at various high end guys, so we'll see. Also, wouldn't be surprised to see a few teams steer Michael to the NCAA for a year if they don't think he's NHL ready: he's too good for junior and not eligible to play in the A under the current CHL-NHL Agreement, so the NCAA is the perfect one year stop to improve and work on his weaknesses before stepping into the NHL as a 19 year old. Quote
scpa0305 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 16 minutes ago, beastandco said: Would be shocked if Michael ended up there. He seems likely to sign his ELC after he’s drafted top 2/3. I think this move by his bro makes it more likely that he goes pro. A top 3 draft prospect going to Penn State just does not make sense in my head I had read rumors they were in play. That was before I even knew he had a brother. But him signing his ELC makes sense too. Quote
beastandco Posted May 5 Posted May 5 16 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Although Marek alluded to Penn State throwing bags of NIL at various high end guys, so we'll see. Also, wouldn't be surprised to see a few teams steer Michael to the NCAA for a year if they don't think he's NHL ready: he's too good for junior and not eligible to play in the A under the current CHL-NHL Agreement, so the NCAA is the perfect one year stop to improve and work on his weaknesses before stepping into the NHL as a 19 year old. I think within the next 5 years it will become the new norm to play college if you aren’t going straight to the NHL after being drafted. CHL players won’t be “silently” committed to college programs because leaving the CHL will be common if it isn’t already. 2 Quote
NoDak Hockey Nation Posted May 5 Posted May 5 6 minutes ago, beastandco said: I think within the next 5 years it will become the new norm to play college if you aren’t going straight to the NHL after being drafted. CHL players won’t be “silently” committed to college programs because leaving the CHL will be common if it isn’t already. I think the top picks are likely to do more what Celebrini did and what McKenna is rumored to do. Graduate high school early and play college before your draft year. Quote
nascar99 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: I think the top picks are likely to do more what Celebrini did and what McKenna is rumored to do. Graduate high school early and play college before your draft year. McKenna will already have graduated HS. Canadian K-12 grade year grouping is Jan 1 - Dec 31, so thus all 2007s graduate HS in 2025. Celebrini fully accelerated a year to graduate HS early. Quote
NoDak Hockey Nation Posted May 5 Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, nascar99 said: McKenna will already have graduated HS. Canadian K-12 grade year grouping is Jan 1 - Dec 31, so thus all 2007s graduate HS in 2025. Celebrini fully accelerated a year to graduate HS early. Yes. I’m saying the top picks will not come to college after their draft year. They are likely to come before and play a year before the draft. Quote
beastandco Posted May 5 Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: Yes. I’m saying the top picks will not come to college after their draft year. They are likely to come before and play a year before the draft. I have no idea how deep CHL teams’ pockets are. I wonder if it’s possible that some of these teams pay big money for their players to stay instead of going to college. Quote
nascar99 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 5 minutes ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: Yes. I’m saying the top picks will not come to college after their draft year. They are likely to come before and play a year before the draft. Gavin McKenna doesn't apply to your example, he's a late birthday (for NHL Draft purposes) but will already have graduated before his draft year. Same as Dylan Holloway, Kent Johnson, Owen Power, Adam Fantilli: all late birthday Canadians who graduated HS as normal, but graduated before their DY and thus went into university normally for their DY. Matthew Wood, Jonathan Toews, Mike Cammalleri, Macklin Celebrini, and Eli McKamey in the future are all examples of guys with normal birthdays who accelerated a year to graduate HS after their 16 year old season so they could play their 17 year old season (DY) in the NCAA. Quote
NoDak Hockey Nation Posted May 5 Posted May 5 7 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Gavin McKenna doesn't apply to your example, he's a late birthday (for NHL Draft purposes) but will already have graduated before his draft year. Same as Dylan Holloway, Kent Johnson, Owen Power, Adam Fantilli: all late birthday Canadians who graduated HS as normal, but graduated before their DY and thus went into university normally for their DY. Matthew Wood, Jonathan Toews, Mike Cammalleri, Macklin Celebrini, and Eli McKamey in the future are all examples of guys with normal birthdays who accelerated a year to graduate HS after their 16 year old season so they could play their 17 year old season (DY) in the NCAA. Those guys aren’t CHLers though. Michael Misa, Matthew Schaefer, Porter Martone, Caleb Desnoyers etc are unlikely to play college next year. But if this rule had gone in effect for this past season, I’d imagine they would’ve considered playing college the year before their draft. It doesn’t matter when their birthday is, it’s about playing college before they are drafted. Quote
ChadR Posted May 5 Posted May 5 There will be guys that are currently committed to NCAA schools from Major Junior that get drafted in NHL this summer and sign NHL deals and never make it to campus. Leaving NCAA in bad spots. 2 Quote
RhettRingers Posted May 5 Posted May 5 15 minutes ago, ChadR said: There will be guys that are currently committed to NCAA schools from Major Junior that get drafted in NHL this summer and sign NHL deals and never make it to campus. Leaving NCAA in bad spots. 100% I also think Boisvert will be playing for Chicago next fall. Quote
beastandco Posted May 5 Posted May 5 14 minutes ago, brianvf said: Colin Grubb, a kid from Minot, was taken 2nd overall. You have to imagine UND is heavily in the mix. Quote
Wilbur Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Grubb the top Nodak kid in phase 1 draft. Dubuque doubled down in the second round and took another ND kid in Jack Larkin from WF. Marto taken in the 2nd round by Muskegon. 1 Quote
nascar99 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 4 hours ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: Those guys aren’t CHLers though. Michael Misa, Matthew Schaefer, Porter Martone, Caleb Desnoyers etc are unlikely to play college next year. But if this rule had gone in effect for this past season, I’d imagine they would’ve considered playing college the year before their draft. It doesn’t matter when their birthday is, it’s about playing college before they are drafted. It has everything to do with their birthday. Porter Martone presumably graduated HS in 2024 due to his 2006 birthyear but because he's born after September 15 (the NHL Draft cut date), he had to play another season (2024-25) before being drafted. So if the rules were in effect in the past, he could have graduated HS in 2024 and then played for an NCAA program like Michigan or Penn State in his DY. Quote
beastandco Posted May 5 Posted May 5 43 minutes ago, brianvf said: Oh my. $250k. Penn State dishing out this kind of money for one season of one player is interesting. Paying this kind of money for 40 games does not seem worth it. Quote
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