The Sicatoka Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 You'll have to register to read: http://theindependent.com/stories/021603/spo_assault16.shtml Sunday, February 16, 2003 Hockey player sentenced to probation in sex assault KEARNEY (AP) -- A 16-year-old Tri-City Storm hockey player was sentenced to indefinite probation for sexually assaulting a teenage girl. William Geoff Paukovich of Englewood, Colo., was convicted of first-degree sexual assault last month in Buffalo County Juvenile Court. The Storm had a Geoff Paukovich, born 04/24/86, hometown Englewood, CO, on their roster at the time. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=69874 DU has a Geoff Paukovich, born 04/24/86, hometown Englewood, CO, on their roster today. http://www.uscho.com/rosters/index.php?sea...eam=32&gender=m Nice fellow, eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESPNInsider Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 WOW! Is that some good detective work on your part!! What kind of job do you have that allows you to research stuff like that all day? Good stuff though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 I had some help. (No further comment.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Yeah, definitely a nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 ... sentenced to indefinite probation ... Is a two-game suspension something he'd have to report to a probation officer if he still has one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Is a two-game suspension something he'd have to report to a probation officer if he still has one? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can't stand the guy because of his hit on Bina, but what is the point of going back and looking at a sexual assault conviction? This has nothing to do with the hit and is pretty classless to go around posting this. I understand it's public information, but still. Let the guy be. The hit was wrong, he knows it. He is being punished by the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 Poor judgement. Violent behavior. Twice. And here's the signature line of PCM Great coaching decisions of our time: Paukovich gives DU the kind of physical presence it has not had in some time and Gwozdecky does not plan on trying to rein him in. - Jan. 27, 2005, Rocky Mountain News " ... does not plan on trying to rein him in." Seems like no one has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Poor judgement. Violent behavior. Twice. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> sexual assault and a hit in a hockey game are not even close to the same thing. don't try and make it look that way. this information has nothing to do with his hit on bina and it specifically has nothing to do with sioux hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Wow, if Bina pursues this legally it could be interesting time for the punk. At the very least I would expect some interesting signs the next time we play DU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoHawks! Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Poor judgement. Violent behavior. Twice. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I tend to agree...this information is intriguing...what's next for this young man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 sexual assault and a hit in a hockey game A violent, flagantly illegal move. Now, am I talking about assault or the hit on Bina? Poor judgement. Violent behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 A violent, flagantly illegal move. Now, am I talking about assault or the hit on Bina? Poor judgement. Violent behavior. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Again, illegal by law or illegal in a hockey game. Please explain to me how a kid's sexual assault conviction has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with a hit in hockey. You can say poor judgement and violent behavior all you want. But to connect the two is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 Again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Again, illegal by law or illegal in a hockey game. Please explain to me how a kid's sexual assault conviction has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with a hit in hockey. You can say poor judgement and violent behavior all you want. But to connect the two is ridiculous. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So anything a hockey player does off the ice is off limits? Tell it to Dany Heatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarzUND Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Granted the two incidences are not related, but both were stupid decisions that are going to impact the victims long term. I'd imagine the girl who he assaulted isn't going to "forget" what happened to her, she's going to have emotional issues, and Robbie won't forget what happened to him, he's going to be reminded of it whether he wants to or not if he is unable to continue playing hockey. Robbie is a class act and while he may be able to "Forgive" GP for what he did, it's going to be harder to "forget". Sadly GP has shown a history of making choices that are highly questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 So anything a hockey player does off the ice is off limits? Tell it to Dany Heatly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never said that, but I don't think this conviction FROM 2 YEARS AGO has anything to do with his hit. I don't see the point in bringing this up other than to mock the kid and to try and prove some point that he is violent and cheap. However, there is no way I'm going be make the connection between a violent act of sexual assault and a violent hit on the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I guess I just figured most Sioux fans would follow Denny Green on the high road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 However, there is no way I'm going be make the connection between a violent act of sexual assault and a violent hit on the ice. At the risk of repeating myself: Is a two-game suspension (for a violent move) something he'd have to report to a probation officer if he still has one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I can't stand the guy because of his hit on Bina, but what is the point of going back and looking at a sexual assault conviction? This has nothing to do with the hit and is pretty classless to go around posting this. I understand it's public information, but still. Let the guy be. The hit was wrong, he knows it. He is being punished by the school. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is crazy talk, it's just more info proving the guy is a thug and probably should be locked up or at least booted out of college hockey. Can he be charged for the hit on Bina, similar to the situation in the NHL with the punch to the back of the head? Also would Robbie have legal recourse against him for intentionally injuring him and effectively ended his career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 That is crazy talk, it's just more info proving the guy is a thug and probably should be locked up or at least booted out of college hockey. Can he be charged for the hit on Bina, similar to the situation in the NHL with the punch to the back of the head? Also would Robbie have legal recourse against him for intentionally injuring him and effectively ended his career? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good luck trying to prove intent to injure. Sure it was a dumb play, but seriously. In 8th grade I got in a fight and punched a kid in the face. Then last year in intramural hockey, I slashed a guy and almost broke his wrist. The two must be connected and I must be a consistent threat to society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESPNInsider Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Good luck trying to prove intent to injure. Sure it was a dumb play, but seriously. In 8th grade I got in a fight and punched a kid in the face. Then last year in intramural hockey, I slashed a guy and almost broke his wrist. The two must be connected and I must be a consistent threat to society. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You sound like a real class act yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLAW Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Again, illegal by law or illegal in a hockey game. Please explain to me how a kid's sexual assault conviction has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with a hit in hockey. You can say poor judgement and violent behavior all you want. But to connect the two is ridiculous. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As an attorney who KNOWS that law and practices almost exclusively in the area of criminal law, the answer is BOTH. Sexual Assault is assault. An illegal act in hockey can be an assault [see Bertuzzi, McSorley, etc.] and punishable as a crime. And, if so, could also be a violation of his probation. Therefore, it is both relevant to hockey and relevant to his past crime. Moreover, BOTH would be admissible as evidence at a trial (called Spreigl evidence) or for arguments for an upward setencing departure should he ever do this again even if was never even charged with a crime relating to this hit. I have said enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESPNInsider Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I think there actually is a connection between the two: It seems as though he got both of them from behind when they didn't want it Pretty low I know but pretty funny too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Good luck trying to prove intent to injure. Sure it was a dumb play, but seriously. In 8th grade I got in a fight and punched a kid in the face. Then last year in intramural hockey, I slashed a guy and almost broke his wrist. The two must be connected and I must be a consistent threat to society. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Everyone to ever play hockey has it drilled into them that checking from behind is very dangerous and is known to cause serious injuries including paralysis. So the guy has no excuse for what he did and proving intent might be difficult, but anything short of him being retarded he knew what was likely to happen from a hit like that. I can stand people defending someone like this, try look at it from the perspective if someone did that to you or your child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESPNInsider Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 One more thing, remember the elbow Klabo from VCSU was charged for just last month? Who knows these days what will happen, although I don't think this hit warrants criminal charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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