Conference Realignments - Take 2

[nodak651]

5 minutes ago, FSSD said:

According to sources on X it sounds like:

1) WAC is kicking out the Utah schools (SUU and U-Tech both Big Sky bound).

New Big Sky:  EWU, UI, ISU, UM, MSU, PSU, Weber St, UNC, UNA, SUU, U-Tech.  Cal Poly UC-Davis football only - 11 schools/13 football

2) All ASUN football schools moving over to the WAC with a rebrand to UAC.  8 schools/7 football

UAC:  UT-A, Tarleton St., ACU, UCA, WGA, N. Alabama, EKU, Austin Peavy

I wonder what happens when Tarleton St leaves?

 

Might be tempting for ORU

[cberkas]

This is all part of the Fenton master plan 

[NewUndFan]

1 hour ago, FSSD said:

According to sources on X it sounds like:

1) WAC is kicking out the Utah schools (SUU and U-Tech both Big Sky bound).

New Big Sky:  EWU, UI, ISU, UM, MSU, PSU, Weber St, UNC, UNA, SUU, U-Tech.  Cal Poly UC-Davis football only - 11 schools/13 football

2) All ASUN football schools moving over to the WAC with a rebrand to UAC.  8 schools/7 football

UAC:  UT-A, Tarleton St., ACU, UCA, WGA, N. Alabama, EKU, Austin Peavy

I wonder what happens when Tarleton St leaves?

 

Didn't seem like anyone on this board wanted the Utah schools but the big sky does.  We are happy to get Auggie.  

[Und Princess]

59 minutes ago, cberkas said:

This is all part of the Fenton master plan 

Sure is the fenton masterclass. He was fine with only 8 teams in nchc. Now he doesn't expansion in summit league. 

[gfhockey]

Fenton rolled up his sleeves!

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 hours ago, FSSD said:

According to sources on X it sounds like:

1) WAC is kicking out the Utah schools (SUU and U-Tech both Big Sky bound).

New Big Sky:  EWU, UI, ISU, UM, MSU, PSU, Weber St, UNC, UNA, SUU, U-Tech.  Cal Poly UC-Davis football only - 11 schools/13 football

2) All ASUN football schools moving over to the WAC with a rebrand to UAC.  8 schools/7 football

UAC:  UT-A, Tarleton St., ACU, UCA, WGA, N. Alabama, EKU, Austin Peavy

I wonder what happens when Tarleton St leaves?

 

the big stink conf is unbelievable....the current pres i think of dixie state is the same guy that when pres of utah southy told the bsc they were just too good for them and left for the wac and now the big stink takes them both/back when the wac kicks em out....

crazy

[SIOUXFAN97]

fenton right now...

[Und Princess]

4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

the big stink conf is unbelievable....the current pres i think of dixie state is the same guy that when pres of utah southy told the bsc they were just too good for them and left for the wac and now the big stink takes them both/back when the wac kicks em out....

crazy

That is super crazy. @SIOUXFAN97 

[Und Princess]

5 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

fenton right now...

Haha!!! For Funny my friend!!!  

[nodak651]

1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

the big stink conf is unbelievable....the current pres i think of dixie state is the same guy that when pres of utah southy told the bsc they were just too good for them and left for the wac and now the big stink takes them both/back when the wac kicks em out....

crazy

I think Utah Tech's AD is the one who got SUU into the Big Sky originally, and he wasn't there when SUU left the Big Sky.  I could be wrong, because I didn't check to verify that, but I don't think you did either.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

I think Utah Tech's AD is the one who got SUU into the Big Sky originally, and he wasn't there when SUU left the Big Sky.  I could be wrong, because I didn't check to verify that, but I don't think you did either.

a few weeks ago i remember reading something about a guy at tech that was at suu when they burned bridges with the bsc....and the writer/poster was wondeirng if the bad blood between that guy (ad or pres?) would keep bsc from taking tech?  

[FSSD]

2 hours ago, nodak651 said:

I think Utah Tech's AD is the one who got SUU into the Big Sky originally, and he wasn't there when SUU left the Big Sky.  I could be wrong, because I didn't check to verify that, but I don't think you did either.

Announcement of SUU Joining WAC:

The Thunderbirds will be joining the WAC ahead of the 2022-23 season, leaving the remainder of the current athletic season and the 2021-22 season to be played in the Big Sky Conference.

“The opportunity to become a member of the WAC is very exciting for us,” SUU Director of Athletics Debbie Corum said. “We believe that the future of SUU Athletics as a member of the WAC will provide exciting opportunities for our  programs.

“Southern Utah University is honored to join the WAC and help lead the resurgence of this great conference,” said SUU President Scott L Wyatt. “We join a group of universities that is growing in enrollment and a conference that is poised for the future.

Now, was AD or President the person that caused all the problems and burned bridges with the Big Sky.  I don't know.

[SIOUXFAN97]

Wonder if instead of selling the Summit's soul to Patty V and the MVC/MVFC if Joshy could've gotten ACU and TSU to join the Summit if we sponsored SUMMIT FOOTBALL?

Also wonder if SUU and Dixie actually chose the BSC over the Summit if they had standing offers from both conferences?

[FSSD]

4 hours ago, NewUndFan said:

Didn't seem like anyone on this board wanted the Utah schools but the big sky does.  We are happy to get Auggie.  

The Utah Tech/SUU don't really fit the tSL/MVFC profile:  National Research University/Urban or State Flagship.  The only school that does not fit this profiles is ORU.  Both Utah schools are Regional Universities and No Research.  Right now the tSL doen't need to make a move. 

They went after Utah Valley and the Texas Schools because they are a better fit.  I can see why Utah Valley went to Big West and the large mormon population is CA.  And the Texas school already had a working relationship with the UAC football schools.  Those were good options for those schools.

I would have liked to see the Texas school join tSL.  The fact that the tSL was in the conversations is encouraging.  The positives are they have a confirmed agreement between MVFC/tSL and a seat at the table which are steps in the right direction for future expansion.

I don't think things are done yet, you have newPac - Texas St/Sac St?, MWC Tarleton St/UC-Davis movement, SoCo was rumored to be interested in WGA/UNA/Austin Peavy/EKU.  More moves to be made out west. 

And it is crazy to think of all the football schools in the West - that Sac St might have jumped all of them to the newPac.

[FSSD]

43 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

Wonder if instead of selling the Summit's soul to Patty V and the MVC/MVFC if Joshy could've gotten ACU and TSU to join the Summit if we sponsored SUMMIT FOOTBALL?

Also wonder if SUU and Dixie actually chose the BSC over the Summit if they had standing offers from both conferences?

Summit Football would have needed both Texas and Utah schools to work.

I don't think tSL had any interest in UTech/SUU without UVU.  And even then I am not sure how much interest they had.

[SIOUXFAN97]

17 minutes ago, FSSD said:

The Utah Tech/SUU don't really fit the tSL/MVFC profile:  National Research University/Urban or State Flagship.  The only school that does not fit this profiles is ORU.  Both Utah schools are Regional Universities and No Research.  Right now the tSL doen't need to make a move. 

They went after Utah Valley and the Texas Schools because they are a better fit.  I can see why Utah Valley went to Big West and the large mormon population is CA.  And the Texas school already had a working relationship with the UAC football schools.  Those were good options for those schools.

I would have liked to see the Texas school join tSL.  The fact that the tSL was in the conversations is encouraging.  The positives are they have a confirmed agreement between MVFC/tSL and a seat at the table which are steps in the right direction for future expansion.

I don't think things are done yet, you have newPac - Texas St/Sac St?, MWC Tarleton St/UC-Davis movement, SoCo was rumored to be interested in WGA/UNA/Austin Peavy/EKU.  More moves to be made out west. 

And it is crazy to think of all the football schools in the West - that Sac St might have jumped all of them to the newPac.

still no one can tell me why the mvfc/tSL thing is  a good "thing" for the summit league?????

st thomas has one foot out the door already....

[SIOUXFAN97]

36 minutes ago, FSSD said:

Summit Football would have needed both Texas and Utah schools to work.

I don't think tSL had any interest in UTech/SUU without UVU.  And even then I am not sure how much interest they had.

Why both... You only need 6 correct?

[nodak651]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

Why both... You only need 6 correct?

Thats a great way to end up in a SUU situation.  6 isnt stable, especially if Tarleton is one of the 6.

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Thats a great way to end up in a SUU situation.  6 isnt stable, especially if Tarleton is one of the 6.

st thomas would make 7 Youngstown...8

[Hawkster]

6 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

fenton right now...

You sure that isn't Bubba with a very dark suntan?

[Und Princess]

5 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

You sure that isn't Bubba with a very dark suntan?

Haha!!! For Funny @Hawkster

I love the Humor!!!

[SIOUXFAN97]

if joshy does one thing right in the next week....he buys up the WAC name and history and rebrands the summit as the WAC..probably get it for a buck or two.

[FSSD]

12 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

st thomas would make 7 Youngstown...8

Youngstown is near the border of Pennsylvania?  I think they would stay with the MVC schools, OVC or look toward MAC.

It would be great if St. Thomas went scholarship.  I think that is farther down the road.  But, they are a football school and that is what got them kicked out of DIII.  And if they have a big donor ready to step up it to could be done.  They have a couple of facilities they could use: 

- Allianz - seats 20,000 - outside the stadium is a mess.  But, the staduim itself is very nice with around 5,000 seats going to suites, club areas, and a beer hall.

- Vikings TCO Staduim - little smaller but very nice - seating varies from 7,500 to 10,000.