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Wow guess I started something with that one, didn't expect that. Spent an hour reading all of it to catch up.....but I'm too tired to post much now lol. Although I will say it was probably worth it to get him to admit he is scared.

I don't go on BV but it sounds like that is the opinion there too. I've seen some Facebook posts from people in the past year saying they'd rather NDSU play other schools and not waste their time with UND. Then I also this past February when I was with my long time HS friend who went to NDSU about if the rivalry should be renewed, and just kinda shrugged and was like.....ehh, basically saying that nah we are past you guys and there is nothing good in it for us anymore. And this is a close friend who we went to the two schools in maybe the best part of the rivalry...early 90's who lived some of those great games so I thought he would agree it would be awesome to have that game back, and even he didn't really want it back. I agree UND-FB-FAN......they will always be our biggest rival. Out of teams we play regularly now I would say our biggest rival is easily Montana, but that doesn't come close to the UND-NDSU rivalry.

That sucks that Coyle quit, I wonder if he felt he would never see the field or what. I was hoping at some point he would make some contributions, it's nice to see kids you watched in local High Schools make contributions to the team.

I agree, I thought Montana was over rated when they were still at #7 before. Although if Adams isn't back by the time Montana plays EWU I'm thinking Montana beats them. I think part of the issue is that after the top rated team, non of the others teams really seem that scary so traditionally strong teams will remain ranked high. EWU can be scary with Adams but their defense is so poor, makes them less scary even when they have him.

What happened to Devon Coyle from Mandan? He played QB and was a great point guard in basketball in HS. I was wondering about him earlier this year as I remember him being a stud in HS but hadn't heard anything about him. I lived in Bismarck at the time so saw him play a fair amount of basketball. I thought I checked the roster earlier in the year and saw he was still listed as a DB, but now I don't see him listed. If he was on the roster I think he'd be able to fill in pretty well as an emergency QB, he was a great athlete and made a ton of clutch plays in HS.

My thoughts when this post was started was that we would lose to EWU, and then lose to one of the other teams. I think this still holds out.......we don't pull out a win at EWU but we win the remaining three. The NAU will be a nice win at home, we'll end the year with a road win and end up .500. I had thoughts of us barely getting to 3 wins after the Missouri game as well. Here is where the Bison trolls get to come in and give us crap about our low expectations, but the fact is it's a rebuilding year and if we end up .500 better than most would have thought. It's back to day by day the rest of the year and learn from this loss and keep making progress.

I only watched the first couple of minutes....but wondering how a coach who just got his butt handed to his team, sits there with a smile on his face bragging about the other team. That is sad. He is definitely looking forward to swinging clubs down in AZ. I'd be pretty pissed if my coach looked that happy after getting beat down.

The first few weeks you have to admit, Joe played pretty poorly and I think any QB that would have played that way would have received a fair amount of criticism. The last few weeks Joe had improved quite a bit, and I don't think there was as much criticism the last few weeks (but I could have missed some of it) and I think he gained some supporters that wanted to stick with him. I for one, when Joe got hurt the first time was like.....oh crap, just when Joe was looking good he got hurt now we have to take a step backwards again. However I think the last few week since Bartels came in the game and scored two TD's in his first full quarter against Portland, people saw some life in the UND offense and thought perhaps Bartels deserves a chance. The good news is, I think both are now capable of being productive. Yesterday was definitely just a bad and off day all the way around. I hope Joe is not seriously hurt either. At this point I don't know who gives us a better chance to win. I guess if Bartels is the starter the rest of the way, we will get to get a good look at him in this offense so that one way or another we know for next year who the starter should be. I really hope we aren't having this same debate next fall.

I don't know the details but seems to be a ballsy move to go for it on 4th down with 50 seconds left when you have the lead. Our ballsy fake punt today didn't work out so well either.

EWU hasn't been the same without their starting QB, it was a matter of time before somebody beat them. If he's not back in time to play Montana, I'd guess Montana will beat them too.

I stated on another post earlier this week, even when we had good deep playoff run types of teams when we were solid in all three phases of the game, every year it seems like we would almost lose or lose to an average or below average team. We are anything but a good consistent team this year, so chances of us laying an egg at some point were very high. Consider the egg layed.

I agree....was both a bad day for the players, and the coaches. I was ok with going for it on the 4th down, however after looking at how SUU was lined up on defense that play I didn't feel we were going to be able to run it for the first down, and it wasn't even close.

Well apparently they were ready because we didn't even come close to getting it.

I guess I didn't pick up on that you meant that part as sarcasm. Yes we can come back, coaches have to give them a butt chewing at half though that is for sure. 3 points against a one win team at half is horrible. There is still hope, but we need a dramatic change in the second half. Catching the ball would be a good place to start.

Defense hasn't adjusted to Mountain time??? That is about the lamest excuse I have ever heard.

Question, aren't the Bison playing right now? Why are you watching our game on a crappy feed? Are you so bored with the Bison winning, that you now enjoy the opportunity to watch us have a crappy game and lose so you can come talk more smack on our board and feel even better about yourself? I'm sure you are absolutely loving this right now.

I didn't like that fake punt call, and yes I know hind sight is 20/20 so easy to say that now. I just think we were too deep in our end and we didn't need it at that point, now we are in trouble.

The stream is about as ugly as this game so far.

Not playing field position, and then not converting that 4th down cost us. 4th downs are nice when you get them, but that one back fired big time.

Very choppy on my laptop too. Nice runs by Garman so far.

Ditto that! I think they will be able to move the ball on us, we just need to come up with that timely sack, batted down ball, or pick.

I think you missed my point. I think most UND people still felt NDSU was our biggest rival even when we were no longer in the same conference and not playing. Our school and our fans wanted the UND - NDSU football game. NDSU and their fans thought felt they had other bigger rivals now, and were on to bigger and better things and weren't too interested in renewing the series. So that was my point, that you guys didn't want to play us, and stating we are not your biggest rivals anymore, yet you guys are all over our board and your homecoming court is doing pranks on us. As far as pranks, I'm totally ok with that and actually kind of like it as long as there is no actual damage etc. done. I think that is part of a rivarly and part of the fun. Just curious if you make as many posts on SDSU and NIU's site. I'm sometimes ok with Bison fans posting, but am just so tired of the holier-than-thou attitude of NDSU and their fans after winning a couple of titles.

I didn't think UND was a rival of NDSU anymore, NDSU is so much better than UND and shouldn't lower themselves to play us. They have much bigger rivals such as SDSU and NIU (insert sarcastic face). I think it's funny how most Bison fans didn't even want to renew the UND-NDSU game anymore because they were on to such bigger and better things. But yet keep coming to our site, and their students try to pull pranks at our University etc. etc.

I hope Joe plays well. But I also hope if he has a crappy first half and we only have 3 points or something, they aren't afraid to put Bartels in to get a spark. If they supposedly have a weak defense, I sure hope we have 10 points at a minimum by half time.