Siouxphan27
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The problem is that UND fans tend to present the story as UND having chosen the Big Sky over the Summit because they preferred it to the Summit. That is, on its face, misleading or outright false.
Of course the Big Sky was preferred to the Summit. Not sure if you're aware, but the Summit doesn't offer football. Without a coinciding football conference offer, the Summit was a worthless option for UND.
Furthermore, why does what a non rival fan thinks about conferences, bother you enough to whine about it on their fan forum?
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So, steal the St. John's (NY) model: Red
MenStormOr maybe just go with $hit Storm.... It aptly describes the transition to a new name.
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Agree with your post, and your view of the negativity. No matter how you feel about Jones, it seems pretty clear by now that he'll be the HC again next year, and how this team does or does not progress in 2015-16 will determine his future. "Good job" to everyone who has conveyed their opinions to Faison via e-mail, but there's not been much new information or useful insight in many of the posts here; mostly a rehash of the same snarky, negative comments from the same posters, leaving this and most threads in the basketball forum practically unreadable.
I agree it gets rehashed a lot. But really, what else is there to talk about? Anyone that knows basketball realizes his teams will only go as far as their natural talent takes them. Sounds like some promising players coming in...I suppose we could talk about that instead.
Maybe someone can start a new thread about how these newcomers will become fantastic team players that only grow and mature as players under the expert tutelage of Jones, and how his expert decision making and in game adjustments will only help them succeed as they run his effective offenses, and dominant defenses.
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Is there any hope left that we could see a coaching change?
A fender bender in Italy this summer while driving a Maserati intoxicated may be our only hope.
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I think most people's fear is that Jones is retained, improves enough next year to approach .500, and then stays at that level for another year or two, just like during Huff and company's career. Yes, next year's talent level should be a bit better, but I think it comes down to this--if you're Faison, how confident are you that Jones is at least close to being as capable as the average opposing coach? Sadly, after watching him for nine years, I'm not confident at all.
This is exactly the fear. of course the team will be better next year..... how could it get any worse?!?!?! So does Faison then look at the "improvement", and extend him again? This is the problem with the wait and see attitude. It's a never ending cycle of mediocrity. It's why the big time programs with enough money to buyout contracts never allow it to get to this point.
We all know what he will do with this alleged talent coming in = nothing. They will go as far as their raw talent will take them.
I was shocked when Jones was given his current contract. It was a ridiculous move on Faison's part, as I can't imagine there was a single school in the country seeking to steal Jones away from us at the time. And right now, you couldn't give him away for a pair of Adidas shoes.
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A buyout may or may not end up being much of an issue. For one thing, it would be due in monthly installments, as opposed to a lump sum. Secondly, it would be reduced by any coaching income he would derive in the next two years. I'm fairly confident the contract also provides a provision that Jones would have to actively seek other employment, as well, so he couldn't just sit back and have an extended "summer of George" while collecting checks. As for the potential loss of players, that's a real possibility, although it could probably be obviated to a large degree if the next coach kept a current assistant on staff.
Maybe Jones could get a job as a Frolf (Frisbee Golf) coach?
Or maybe our very own poster Art Vandalay could get him a job in Latex.
I don't think we can worry about the level of commitment the recruits have to UND. Getting a coach in here that actually develops talent and through his coaching ability puts the team in a position to win is more important to the overall health of the program than the possible loss of a recruit or two.
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looked like a foul to me...a basic back screen and our guys f it all up...
I agree. I can't believe he grabbed onto him like that.
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Wtf was that
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So many wild shots here towards the end. Wish we'd be more patient and get a good look
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UNC. 42
UND. 28
Halftime
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Unc. 33
UND 20
5:00 first half
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I will quit posting if Jones gets fired...if any of the trolls who think he will get fired this year have the jewels to quit posting if he does not get fired! the silence is deafening!! I know people on the inside and you obviously no nobody...that is why I know and you do not
Just because people think he should be fired, doesn't mean we think its likely. But we can dream- that's what message boards are for.
6 minutes left in first half, and no one has bothered to post on the game. Quite telling. The fanbase is becoming indifferent. It will remain this way until a change is made.
As for the game- I think I can sum it up with 4 letters: SSDD.
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Such a shame you couldnt answer my Slippery Rock question in a civil manner. I was being serious. I didnt know if you were being facetious with the Slippery analogy.
I do agree with your premise that the NCAA requires a new nick name and that was their intent so Sioux couldnt be used anymore.
I had explained what Slippery Rock uses for a nickname. (Rock) You then, asked me if the ncaa ever considered their name hostile and abusive. I interpreted that as a rhetorical, smart aleck question. I responded in kind. I refuse to believe that anyone with the cognitive ability to log on to a website would be unsure if a rock- regardless of its adhesive properties- was considered hostile and abusive.
This is off topic anyway. I'll let it stay on course with all these "great" nicknames everyone is coming up with. ;-)
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Question---was Slippery Rock having problems with the NCAA in regards to a hostile and abusive nickname? Did the NCAA order Slippery Rock to change there nickname? Did the NCAA say Slippery Rock had to have a nick name? Besides UND has the NCAA demanded any school to have a nickname?
I'll try make an analogy you might understand.
Back when you were in the residence halls at ndsu, nearly everyone had their pet goat living in their door room. Unfortunately, yours died. ndsu ordered you to get a new goat, or you would be kicked out of school. But you did not want to bother with a new goat. And as you pointed out to the administration, your best friend JimBob across the hall did not have a goat, yet he was allowed to live in the dorms and not get kicked out of school. The End.
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It isn't leading if no one is following you. And no one is going to go without a nickname in the near future (at least the next decade or 2).
Actually leading would have been one of 2 things. Either developing very strong relationships with all local tribes to ensure their support to use the name, or dropping the name before it became an issue with the NCAA.
Not at all what i'm talking about when referring to leading. I'm fine with no new nickname. The old one would have just continued to cause problems even if "support" was granted from the tribes.
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We missed the boat on that in the current world.
And you know this to be true. Cool. Can you hook me up with Saturday's PowerBall numbers too?
I don't see why my posts need to be 100% factual.....
Please explain how you know the big bad NCAA will come after us like the Thought Police? Or please explain the delusional posts about the interlocking ND being banned by the NCAA as a possible new official logo?
Look, I know those in charge will never have the balls to stay with the interlocking ND and go forward without a cutesy mascot. The fear mongering has all the sheep ready to jump off the cliff by May.
When the "no nickname" option is officially taken off the table, my vote will be for UND Lemmings.
Now, let's hear some more about those millions of merchandise dollars waiting to be raked in, with this "new" 100-years-late-to-the-nickname-party, mascot and logo!!! Will we even need to donate anymore, or will the new nickname cover all costs in the future?
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Because, not 100 years ago, or 100 years from now, we have to live in the world as it is today,
I'd rather we lead than follow.
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So, predictions on the final list?
< ethereal noun -- like "Liberty" >
< regional raptor >
< clawed mammal, but not too scary >
< weather phenomena >
< color >
What's missing?
gay superheroes. Or is "gay" implied?
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Don't go down a rabbit hole.
The issue is the world is changing around us. We sat back and didn't believe it. Well, it did. And now, like it or not, we have to live in that changed world.
You're correct, the world is changing. I said several pages ago, a hundred years from now no one will have a nickname. Everything is becoming offensive to somebody. The first time a longhorn breaks a leg running around a football field, or a bulldog dies of heat stroke in the end zone, animal nicknames will come under fire.
Why play the stupid nickname game at all?
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Folks, I'm listening to a radio talk show right now discussing how Ringling Brothers is dropping elephants acts from their shows in three years because of constant, continual animal rights (PETA) protests.
The host is talking about how it happened because the majority who support Ringling didn't get in front of it, didn't take it seriously, because they didn't believe it could really happen. And now folks are upset that the decision has been made.
"Who are these people who complained? Are they < event > fans?" was the question he just posed.
But that really doesn't matter. The elephants are kicked out of the circus.
This scenario should ring eerily familiar to all of us.
I guess the obvious question to ask then is, If fans of the circus continue to wear elephant t-shirts, will PETA sue Ringling and shut them down? And on what "fair" grounds?
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One reading of the settlement agreement would say yes, may not have been used.. ever.... BY THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA. You missed that part. UND could use Warriors or Tigers, 2 of the most popular nicknames around, because UND has not used them before.
So the ncaa also banned us from going back to the Flickertails? interesting....I think you're pulling some of this from somewhere other than the settlement agreement.
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The agreement doesn't say that they have to stop using the ND logo (and certainly doesn't say that they have to stop using the letters N and D). tSic didn't say that no logos or nicknames used in the past are allowed. The agreement says that they have to stop using the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo, and that they have to replace the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo with a new nickname and new logo. It is spelled out pretty simply in the settlement agreement section printed above. The ND logo has been a secondary logo for many years. It can continue to be a secondary logo. But UND has to choose a new nickname and a new logo to replace Fighting Sioux as the primary nickname.
Your bolded part makes my point, actually. The settlement assumes (correctly) the Fighting Sioux is the old nickname, and the old logo. Where in the agreement does it mention primary and secondary names and logos?
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So, by this argument, the new nickname may not have been used... ever? Completely new? Original? That's quite a leap.
Lol agreed.
This is sounding more and more like George Orwell's 1984.
The letters N and D have now been removed from the alphabet. Adjust accordingly or suffer the consequences!
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UND has been using the interlocking ND since at least the 1930s. It was modified a few years ago to try and make it a little different from Notre Dame, but it is still an interlocking ND. It isn't a new logo in any way, shape or form.
You know what I meant, but if this fits your premise, go with it. Lol
If no logos or nicknames used in the past are going to be allowed as stated by Sicatoka a few posts ago, when will all the N's and D's be removed from campus? Seems like quite an undertaking, hopefully The Herald takes some pics.
SIOUX vs. CC - Game 2
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how much time left? still tied?