Siouxphan27
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Langdon was the last living rough rider from ND, there was more than one roughrider from ND. Roosevelt himself lived here at one point. Central needs to get over itself.
Wrong. Langdon was the ONLY Roughrider from ND. I could not care less about any Class A high schools or their nicknames.
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So, how many Spartans were from Michigan? How many Trojans from Southern California?
For that matter, I thought the 'Rebs' were from the Confederacy, not Las Vegas, Nevada.
How many Seminoles are there in Fl... oops,
mythe NCAA's bad.
It does go with the state's marketing program, and is like the Tennessee Volunteers, the Oklahoma Sooners, the Kansas Jayhawks... Need I go on?
1. Roughriders
2. (Charging) Nokotas
3. (Grey) Wolves
4. Cavalry
The difference would be those nicknames were not chosen with the directive of attempting to choose a name related to, and honoring, something in the state's past.
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what does cavalry have to do with north dakota?
and two word combos of a color/region and a idea/thing/noun are odd and a dime a dozen---
You're kidding, right? 7th Cavalry? Custer? Battle of Little Big Horn? Wounded Knee Massacre?
There was also the 1st Dakota Cavalry Battalion- they were charged with keeping the settlers safe from Indian uprisings during the Civil War time period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Dakota_Cavalry_Battalion
Because of what their duties were, I can't hardly believe when it comes down to the final countdown Cavalry will be considered as a nickname option. I prefer no nickname, but wouldn't mind Cavalry- it's a part of the history of North Dakota, unlike- you guessed it- Roughridas!
The Roughriders were never here. They were from the southwestern states. They were from hot climate regions by design, as those men were used to the weather conditions they would encounter in Cuba. As a whole, they were together for just a few months from the beginning of training to the end of their fighting in Cuba.
There was one member of the 1250+ Roughrider group who was from North Dakota. His name was Jesse Langdon. He was a 16 year old boy from Fargo who knew Teddy Roosevelt because Langdon's father was the Head Veterinarian at the North Dakota Ag College, and had worked Roosevelt's cattle. As a side note, a few years after he was with the Roughriders, Jesse claimed to have psychic powers. The link of North Dakota to the Roughriders is virtually non-existent, unless honoring a 16 year old boy from the NDAC is the plan for UND.
Yes.....I realize there is a Roughrider award. I realize the ND Tourism Dept. has done a great job trying to sell North Dakota as the roughrider state. I've been to the Medora Musical- at the end of it, when they charge up San Juan Hill.... that hill's just southwest of Dickinson, right?
I think it's nuts the state sells itself on a fictitious history that has been repeated so many times now that some people mistake it for the truth.
If it is chosen it will definitely be unique- UND will be the only U. with a nickname chosen to honor a fairytale history.
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Roughriders or bust.........
UND Bust it is!!!!
Bust yeah yeah!
Yeah bust bust!
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Agree to disagree I guess. UND only has no nickname right now because they were not allowed to choose a new one when the old one was retired. Had that restriction not been in place, this process would have taken place in 2011/2012 and your point about them continuing on with no nickname as they currently are would not have existed.
So you're saying my point would be incorrect if we revised history..... Hmmm... I guess I'll agree with you there...
. But I'll still stick by my point under the current laws and history of the 3 dimensional world I am currently living in.
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Except this time it would be by choice instead of force. UND was prohibited by law from replacing Fighting Sioux when it was retired, they no longer have that restriction in place. There is a material difference in the two.
All there is left to say to that is Holy semantics Batman
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The University of North Dakota, aka North Dakota or UND, was founded in 1883.
It was the University of North Dakota, aka North Dakota or UND, through "Nodaks", "Flickertails", and "Fighting Sioux".
It was the University of North Dakota, aka North Dakota or UND, in 2005 when the NCAA edict first arrived.
It was in 2012 when the settlement happened.
It is the University of North Dakota, aka North Dakota or UND, today.
And it will still be tomorrow.
I don't understand the " ... staying North Dakota ... " statements.
We are staying North Dakota no matter what.
Or have some folks misunderstand that all along and thought the institution was "The Fighting Sioux" and the University of North Dakota, aka North Dakota or UND, was the nickname.
"Stay North Dakota", in the context of this discussion, always refers to staying with no nickname as we have been since ours was officially removed. It really isn't that difficult of a concept
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Pride is starting to grow on me. However I still think I'm in the no new nickname grouping.
Pride? How many milliseconds before we're referred to as Gay pride by opponents? (Not that there's anything wrong with that - My father's gay.) -Seinfeld.
Please stay with us in the no new nickname crowd, we're glad you're with us!
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People get used to having herpes too! But in the end it still sucks and life was way better than having herpes in the first place!
Lol. Best post in this thread!
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So where was their diversity VP pointing out that this is a big white guy?
As was mentioned it's a big gay white guy, so that's how they covered the diversity angle.
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James Madison University?
I like dogs. And crowns! Where do I sign up for autopay donations to this fine institution?
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OK, 82SiouxGuy, I'll try to find some smaller-school logos and see if anything really sticks in the collective heads here as a great idea for branding vs "ND"...
How about Northern Colorado?
Average Joe: oooh.... scary bear!!! i'm definitely going to start donating huge sums of money to and buying thousands in merchandise from this school!
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New nickname => Do it right, I'm buying something, maybe a lot of things.
New nickname => Do it wrong, I'm probably not buying anything, but I'll wait for a new hockey sweater to decide for sure.
No new nickname => I'm definitely not buying anything. Period.
It's not a conspiracy…it's marketing.
So you will never buy anything that only says North Dakota on it? interesting....
I know I will never wear a sweatshirt with "Fighting Greens", and a whole host of other WTF type nicknames that are still on the consideration list.
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Oh wait, you're comparing Power 5 conference schools with a school that finished moving up to Division I a couple of years ago. Schools that have used those logos for years, most for decades. Schools that get a lot of national TV coverage. Versus a small, lesser known school going through a nickname and logo change. That makes sense. And you substituted the word absolutely for the word options that southpaw used. Got it, good comparison.
If you want to compare the use of letters, use the interlocking ND. How has that done for UND recognition? UND has used it for decades. If you show the interlocking ND logo to random people at sporting events in Los Angeles, Dallas, Atlanta, New York City, or even Minneapolis, what school are most of them going to think it belongs to? UND or Notre Dame? Pretty unique to UND isn't it? Or not so much. And that's true even though Notre Dame also uses a small, bearded guy in another logo. Does anyone actually believe that continuing with the interlocking ND logo as the main UND logo is going to help build recognition for UND?
Only one thing is going to help build recognition for UND- WINNING. Successful sports teams and solid education programs is what builds a brand and gets you recognized.
The argument a new logo is somehow going to get people to stand up and pay attention to a university in what most people in the country consider the middle of nowhere, is just patently untrue.
There's more risk that a bland, dumb moniker is going to turn off more people than a "great" new moniker with zero tradition behind it is going to suddenly generate new fans and interest in UND.
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Brilliant! I'm taking the University of North Dakota Dukes!
this whole process is like taking one gigantic duke.
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Careful ... you know what happens to those who disagree with KJU.
They get fed to the Sundogs?
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"Bombs away!" No way it makes it. I like it, and would have no problem with it. Even with it meeting most criteria, there is no chance it makes it out of committee. (most know multiple reasons why, unfortunately)
How about the UNABOMBERS?
Or would having an N, and an A, together in the name get it disqualified by the Supreme Leader of the committee? (no, not Karl)
This whole process is enough to make me barf. A large committee narrows down a list, but only the names that meet one person's approval, can be moved forward. It's sort of like Kim Jong Un and his Parliament.
the people who should have the least say into what the new, non-Sioux nickname is, are in fact wielding all the power. No Arrows, no horses that have NA ties... I'm not saying those were the best options but how some names are being eliminated is total BS.
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The NCAA titles will start rolling in now! ***
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And your point is?
I guess ewe just don't understand your own udder nonsense.
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Sodbusters and Goat ropers are not the same. Duh.
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I can see the dilemma with choosing Badlanders... How about recognizing the highest point in North Dakota- UND White Buttes.
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Nice post, I hope you send it to their editor.
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My bottom three...which won't change:
1. Roughriders
2. Roughriders
3. Roughriders
There should not be a new nickname. No nickname is the only good option.
(Slightly modified above post.)
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Further to the point of lamenting my pathetic aging situation...
...then I see the proposed "Charging Nokota" logo and wish it all to end instantly, like I'm with Tony Soprano and his family at the diner with the once inspirational and now incredibly haunting Journey tune playing as soundtrack to my demise. I haven't seen that much horse hair 'flow since my last Broney convention. "Charging Nokota" is so gaddawful bad I'm beginning to think this is all an elaborate scheme by Jerry York to further inflict pain and suffering on Sioux fans beyond the usual Frozen Four trouncings.
I can't agonize enough over the list of horrific names still "under consideration." Drillers? Energy? Arctic Blaze? That last one just doesn't even make any sense. And, of course there's the cunning subtlety of Bison Slayers. Too clever by one one-hundredth. Yes, I get it, the Fighting Sioux were Bison Slayers. Genius. It's just so bad it's good; that sort of thing. And... honestly I can hardly type this... "Aurora"??? Wha. Tha. Fa? We can all dress in creepy 70's tie dye and cue up the 5th Dimension on the quadraphonic.
Let's bring it back to base camp fellow explorers... There's no other option than just "North Dakota." You know it. I know it. We know it. It's the only way to avoid a complete unhealthy backlash from all of the hearty, God-fearing, gun-toting, red-state, tough-as-nails, ruggedly individualistic and fantastically awesome members of Fighting Sioux nation who, despite their vast numbers in the majority, have no time or inclination to post their whimsical BS on this web site.
taz is here to help
Excellent post! I hope as this process in self torture continues to play out more and more people will realize staying North Dakota with no nickname is the best option.
New Nickname
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lol thanks. However, you will be very busy if you try correct all my grammatical mistakes!