Siouxphan27
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Stage 6 is indifference- not giving a flying Flickertail anymore. Most will never reach this stage, but a really dumb nickname will send a few people here.
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Is it too late to submit Fighting Grievers?
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Sometimes I think we have to go back to "English Language 101" so, ...
A nickname is "a name added to or substituted for the proper name of a person, place, etc., as in affection, ridicule, or familiarity." *
Proper name: University of North Dakota
Nickname:
Maybe that's the solution: All that's in the "nickname" space right now is white space.
University of North Dakota White Space
No, wait, clearly racist.
* "nickname", Oxford English Dictionary (online ed.), retrieved September 26, 2011
With most names of any substance or relevance to the local area getting tossed out already, it appears "ridicule" is the part of this definition we will get to enjoy if a nickname is chosen.
Go Big White Space Machine!
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We already are North Dakota, the University of North Dakota.
I swear some people think that team that plays in the NCHC in Engelstad Arena is a sovereign entity and not the University of North Dakota's entrant into NCAA Division I ice hockey.
Hint to those blinded by a nickname and logo: It is the University of North Dakota's entrant into NCAA Division I ice hockey. They already are "North Dakota". Nicknaming the team "North Dakota" is straight out of the Department of Redundancy Department.
To clear up any confusion, I said, and meant, no nickname is needed.
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What they figured out is that can continue to yell Fighting Sioux because there will be nothing to compete with it. Read the comments on any article or even the suggestion list.
People will still be yelling Fighting Sioux for years to come regardless. I think it's a good sign now that the process has started, more people are beginning to realize how fatally flawed this entire exercise is.
Keep it as North Dakota. Dress up the interlocking logo with a few variations. For those in love with Teddy Roosevelt, make him a mascot. Or other people or things North Dakota-ish, make them mascots. There are lots of possibilities with just staying North Dakota.
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I too was pretty disappointed in Brad's take on this. Maybe he hears from hockey fans more than anyone else and that's where his POV is coming from but it would be a colossal mistake in my opinion and feel fairly comfortable that the committee is aware of not picking a new nickname will cause the large majority to hold onto the old one because they have nothing to gravitate towards. Your second paragraph is spot on. People will slowly figure out they are cheering for and supporting a University and not a nickname or logo.
This is what the no nickname folks have already figured out. Seeing names like Arrows eliminated already, and fake made up birds and anything with the word green in front of it being moved forward in the process, further supports my fear the chosen name will be as mamby pamby as they come.
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Mr./Ms. Ermine- you seem to know a lot about the process of choosing a name- how have other schools handled the voting/decision making process? TIA
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Looks like some names were either left on or off either list due to spelling errors, so perhaps a keyword search used to sort names is partly to blame for some of the confusion. i.e. Berserkers is under consideration, while Berzerkers is not. And Roughriders is not under consideration, but a misspelled version of Roughriders made the under consideration list.
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Holy cow, Mr. Buzzkill. God forbid a North Dakota team is nicknamed after something related to Teddy Roosevelt. You hate "Roughriders", we get it.
Your last reply to me stated you would "love to hear what I have to say about ND high school nicknames...
Are you capable of responding to me without starting out with an insult or calling names? You are 3-for-3 now. You seem very childish when you are proven wrong. In the future, please ignore posts of mine in which your opinion is different than mine, or in cases you cannot refute my points with anything besides insults and garbage. Thanks. We're done here.
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The Riders gathered in the southwest, but North Dakota cowboys (e.g. Jesse Langdon*) were in the group. "They gathered a diverse bunch of men consisting of cowboys, gold or mining prospectors, hunters, gamblers, Native Americans and college boys; all of whom were able-bodied and capable on horseback and in shooting."
If they didn't take anybody from anywhere who met their needs, how'd a Harvard educated New Yorker end up as a colonel in the unit?
*Roosevelt made sure Langdon got into the unit. "Langdon, born 1881 in what is now North Dakota, "hoboed" his way to Washington, D.C., and called on Roosevelt at the Navy Department, reminding him that his father, a veterinarian, had treated Roosevelt's cattle at his Dakota ranch during his ranching days. Roosevelt arranged a railroad ticket for him to San Antonio, where Langdon enlisted in the Rough Riders at age 16. He was the last surviving member of the regiment and the only one to attend the final two reunions, in 1967 and 1968. He died June 29, 1975 at the age of 94, ..."
As the article states, just one North Dakotan- Jesse Langdon, was ever a member of the Roughriders.
North Dakota Tourism has done a great job of brainwashing people over the years to believe the Roughriders had anything to do with North Dakota. One of those -say it enough times and people will believe it's true- deals.
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Holy cow, Mr. Buzzkill. God forbid a North Dakota team is nicknamed after something related to Teddy Roosevelt. You hate "Roughriders", we get it. But if you think the Grand Forks school district was so foolish to use "Roughriders" as a nickname for athletic competition in North Dakota, as you implied earlier, I would love to hear what you have to say about the school districts that created the Central Knights, Fargo North Spartans, Bismarck Demons, Dickinson Midgets, and pretty much every other high school in North Dakota.
Sorry B-Squared- that post of mine you're referring to is what the kids nowadays refer to as sarcasm.
In regard to the rest of your post; everyone realizes those schools you listed were not attempting to honor anything when they chose their nickname. So, it's really a silly point to try compare those names to UND's attempt at finding a name reflective of the state.
On the UND nickname suggestion page, the third of the four suggested attributes for a nickname suggestion states: 3) Be representative of the state and region in a way that honors the traditions and heritage of the past but also looks to the future.
the Roughriders were not a cavalry based in North Dakota. They never trained or fought in north Dakota.
At best, a handful(after a little research, i discovered just one- Jesse Langdon- was from North Dakota) of the 1250+ men may have had north Dakota ties.Are we choosing a nickname to honor North Dakota, or are we choosing a nickname to honor Teddy Roosevelt?
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You're right. I accidentally wrote "actually" instead of "acting" on an internet message board. Thank you for taking the time to point that out, and keep up the good work!
While there may be better options, when it comes to North Dakota history, there is nothing inaccurate about honoring Teddy Roosevelt. Nothing at all.
Glad I could help.
If you want to honor teddy Roosevelt, fine. But try finding something that relates to North Dakota, to honor him with. You've got about 11 hours to come up with something.
a man who was from New York, spent a small fraction of his life in North Dakota, said he liked it here, led a cavalry from an entirely different area of the country....that is how we arrive at a nickname for North Dakota? Really? The tangential leap involved is just too much for me. Just my own, un-obtuse opinion.
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Right. This is obviously why Red River has its nickname.
Some people need to stop actually so intentionally obtuse. Everyone here knows that the Roughrider nickname derives from Roosevelt's nexus to North Dakota and not out of some misunderstanding or devotion to cavalry men from the southwest. Red River's logo is literally that of Teddy Roosevelt, himself. But, apparently every school district in North Dakota needs a history lesson then: Central Knights; Fargo North Spartans; Century Patriots; Bismarck Demons; etc. What does those nicknames have to do with North Dakota?
Calling me obtuse kinda loses it's punch when you fail to make a complete sentence out of it.
My point above was I find it ironic some people are totally against North Stars since it's been used by Minnesota, yet, Roughriders is fine with them despite already being the name of a local high school, and an inaccurate 'honoring' of North Dakota history.
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So is Red River HS the "Roughriders" because they are kids from Las Cruses and Tempe or because that's the name given to people who follow Teddy Roosevelt's lead?
You know Teddy: North Dakota's greatest advocate; the New Yorker who said he wouldn't have been a US President if not for his time in North Dakota; Nobel Prize winner, Congressional Medal of Honor winner.
They are the Roughriders because apparently no one in that school district knows anything about American history.
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I think being ok with North Stars, but thinking Roughriders is out of the question because of Red River is a unique form of hypocrisy.
I agree.... It's sort of the same hypocrisy as being in favor of Roughriders which brings to mind a cavalry from New Mexico, Arizona, and other southwest states- but then not being in favor of North Stars, which brings to mind a neighboring state.
For the record, both names suck. :-)
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So many words nothing new said
Exactly. Look at the thousands of posts made on the nickname- and there hasn't been an idea yet that even half of us can agree on.
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Benny /Baker, mksioux. Put all the legal stuff aside for a second. Why do you want UND to have no nickname? You and the other "no nickname" people have yet to answer my question. What is your reasoning?
I must be on your "ignore" list. Lol. I'll try and state my reasonings yet again later tonight.
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UND Fighting Wisicu? The Fighty Whiteys? Only a few days left to submit more of these great nickname ideas!
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/23/entertainment/adam-sandler-movie-ridiculous-six-feat/index.html
Admittedly tangential (there is a reference to the Redskins), but you just never know when and where these things might surface. Adam Sandler? Seriously??
So if I understand correctly, the guy was fine with the premise of the movie on Monday. But by midweek, he and others were so ticked by the lack of authentic attire, they were offended enough to walk out?
The sheer stupidity that goes into being "offended" never ceases to amaze.
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Not wanting a nickname reminds me of some little brat angry that they didn't get the sprinkles on the ice cream they wanted, so they lay on the floor kicking and screaming for attention.
Time for some "fans" to grow up.
I suppose next you will tell us Adults whining for a new nickname is not childish.
(Mother): Why are you crying little Timmy???
(sobs between words) "Because mommy, all the other little kids at school have nicknames and I don't! Waah waah waah!"
"I see.... It's ok little Timmy... You don't need a nickname to be recognized- a nickname doesn't define who you are--- your actions, your accomplishments, those are the things that people will notice about you, and will define who you are."
(Timmy, less sobbing): "really mommy? Thanks!"
(Hugs)
~The More You Know~
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You mean like Kodiak Grizzley Bears? The same bears indigenous to Kodiak Island of Alaska? Not sure there are any ties to ND with this!
I agree. But, hasn't stopped a bunch of people getting on board with the name Roughriders so we can apparently honor a volunteer cavalry from New Mexico and it's surrounding areas.
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Dinner at Perkins for the winner?
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congrats on the hockey. i believe theres an ndsu alum who was the lead designer of the expansion of caesars palace, mgm grand, and mandalay bay in vegas; along with other gaming and resort projects. also another guy who was lead on panama canal expansion. hehe
Congrats on Minard Hall.
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It reminded me of the cover of the book Black Beauty. Or am i thinking of Black Booty?