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It will be tough to fill an FBS independent schedule by 2020. Most of FBS has long been scheduled. Later years could be better. Maybe a deal with BYU can be worked out, where BYU moves its football to the AAC, and UConn gets much of its independent schedule. BYU’s AD has stated that they will need a football conference eventually. AAC schools will be getting a huge cable increase in coming years, but it is still less than half of what a Big East schools get from FOX. St Louis would probably be favored, but their winning % has not been that great lately. UConn would bring much support for Big East’s tournament in MSG.

There is more chatter that UConn will return to the Big East. http://www.digitalsportsdesk.com/ncaa-basketball/big-east/uconn-to-return-to-big-east/ Air Force could find a spot in the AAC for football, but would need a spot for their other sports, like Navy does. Could the Summit be a home? That would temporarily solve the baseball and men’s soccer issues.

The Dakota Access Pipeline will be almost doubling its capacity by 500,000 bops by adding pump horsepower. https://bismarcktribune.com/business/dakota-access-pipeline-operator-plans-large-capacity-expansion/article_a3de339a-3dc1-5f55-97fa-0dc200874502.html

The UMKC move will likely eliminate Chicago State from the WAC too. CSU is down to 1200 students and is broke. It’s actually on a contract basis with the WAC, and that contract won’t be renewed. The Summit can take them, not. NoColo has a good league for baseball, as Sac St is there too, and it’s mostly southern. No Col could have made much more sense as a full member because it would bring fb to six Summit members and the Summit would not need to constantly replace baseball and men’s soccer schools. But FCS isn’t what these changes are about. NDSU and SDSU will have to go to the Horizon League for baseball affiliation, as the MVC won’t want their weak programs.

It can get new members if it offers FBS status. Sam Houston St and Lamar have stated for years that they want FBS, only to be rebuked by the Sun Belt and CUSA. UTRGV will also announce plans for FBS. UCDavis, Sac St and Cal Poly have internal plans for FBS also. Utah Valley, Seattle and Dixie St will go to the Big Sky for better geography, prompting the Motanas, Idaho and Weber St to move. The WAC only has six full DI members going forward - NMSU, GCU, UTRGV, Seattle, Utah Valley and Chicago St - as Bakersfield is leaving and Dixie St and Cal Baptist are still transitioning. It needs to add at least two and probably more full DI’s to get in compliance.

Still compete against them and we win.

The WAC will have to respond now to stay alive. It will take Sam Houston St, Lamar, maybe Incarnate Word and a few other Southland teams and UMKC will reconsider and ORU jumps. UCDavis, Cal Poly and Sac St will also join and that will start the Big Sky reorganization. The Summit would be an awful position without thee northern Big Sky schools.

Yeah, like the NCHC is much greater than the Pig Ten, as the last four champs have come from UND or its league.

If this is what the Summit is relying on, its committing suicide unless UMKC starts baseball or gets another full DI school. It would be a shame that the Dakota football programs aren’t the Summit key survival programs, but men’s soccer, baseball and mbb are. UND’s needs to bring back baseball to save the Summit. The WAC’s future is also imperiled, as Dixie St and Cal Baptist won’t be full DI members for years and Bakersfield is leaving next year. The WAC need some seven full DI members now, not DII move ups.

It’s embarrassing to your AD and President not to get an offer to move up. Any G5 conference that offered would lose $’s all around. To the bison masses, it’s just another weekend to stuff their stomachs with bbq and beer in Frisco.

Yeah, you’re right, as you said you don’t have a clue. Consider Douple more of an idiot than you, Southpaw, and the bison troll above. Montana State’s Cruzado is calling the shots and Montana is just following along. The date above was only by Big Sky rules, which can be changed, and probably has been to circumvent the NCAA meetings upcoming. Dixie St got an upgrade to DI and FCS based on more FCS schools joining the WAC. So far nada as the Big Sky will need teams to backfill and Dixie St would be perfect. Egriz doesn’t want the Griz to leave as only the MWC is adequate in their delusional minds so you very compliantly agree. But meanwhile, the Griz have big plans for an indoor practice center, which is almost a necessity for FBS.

You are the one with wild ass assumptions. Conference autobids are so closely guarded and watched, and the Summit has already almost lost it until ORU came back as both baseball and men’s soccer were almost dead. The waiver the NCAA gives is for it to get back in compliance, within two years, of the rules. The Summit was already out of compliance for two years, so if ORU had not come back, the Summit’s Dance bid would have been dead. The Summit has reason to pay ORU to come back as ORU had very limited funds at the time. The Fargo media isn’t sophisticated enough to pick this up, after all, it thought that St Thomas could move immediately to SI. The NCAA doesn’t give unlimited time for waivers. The NCAA is run for and by the P5 FBS conferences. They don’t want more dance bids to go out to lesser conference, so they have changed the rules to prevent new ones, and become stricter with those already out there with a goal of reducing them. Used to be that lesser conferences would have eight or so teams, now it is more like 12, and the Summit is way short of even that safety margin. You totally ignore Montanas academic desires. The Big Sky in 1980 was OK as it wasn’t fat with weaker academics but it is not now. UC Davis, which is PAC 12 quality, does not count as a full member. Idaho would now go broke trying to mimic Boise St. When the WAC FBS broke up, that screwed them and they had to resort back to the Montanas option. My personal prognosis is that you are an idiot and totally ignorant of NCAA rules and academic desires of University Presidents. It is a big deal for them.

NDSU is at the point of major embarrassment. They have won more FCS championships than anyone, but no G5 conference interest exists. They need to go FBS and my plan lays it out.

When PUFW (or ORU or WIU) leaves, something needs to happen within two years or the Summit is defunct as a dance league, but as conference could still be alive for non mbb auto bids though.

It’s clear you don’t have a clue about the geographical predicament North Dakota and Montana teams are in. When UNI broke from the NCC and established the Mid Con, a line was drawn at the Iowa northern border and that further eastern schools won’t go above for getting conference mates. UNI might be the the exception now at their willingness to associate with Dakota schools, but their in a far higher league because of it. The Big Sky has lost Gonzaga, Nevada, and Boise St which the Montana’s and Idaho have been sore about since. Adding Sac St, Northridge St, and Portland St just didn’t satisfy for fan bases or in academics. In the 1970’s, The Montana’s were reaching out to the North Dakota’s to join, but the rest including Idaho, Idaho St and Weber St wouldn’t have anything to do with us. But the Montana’s were interested. When NDSU went DI, Chapman bet that the Montana’s would finally succeed and wagered that NDSU and SDSU would be offered. After all, Chapman came from Montana St and knew of their strategic interests. From websites, the Montana’s were very much interested, but the rest of the Big Sky put the hammer down and stopped it. But later, the Montanas had success in getting UND and USD invites when they threatened to leave for the WAC, so the Big Sky yielded as would lose their TV source and money and fan bases. The Montanas and Idaho know they would never get an offer from the MWC as their don’t have enough eyeballs. The Big Sky accepting UND saved its fb program from massive disinterest, which is what NDSU had planned. Now, Idaho wants FBS again in a way that will be cheaper and capable and Weber St doesn’t publically like SUU, UVU and Dixie St playing in their sandbox, so it has changed its mind too. Omaha could be a possible Horizon or MVC member, but hockey is now the key feature of its sports and that ties them to UND. Denver also wants to associate with UND for the same reason. Why Denver and Omaha are confident in the Summit’s future is surprising, as they haven’t been offering themselves as a sort of prostitute. If a Northern League wasn’t about to happen, schools like Fort Hays St and Washburn in Kansas would be invited and maybe Central Missouri and Nebraska-Kearney too. Since DII moveups take at least five years to become DI, the Summit must have other plans to avoid extinction. University Presidents just love high academics and research too. SUU. Sac St, Idaho St, N Colo, WIU, ORU and PUFW don’t measure up. The Montana Presidents will go into an orgasmic fit of joy when they join the Summit, but they are very discrete. Most D2 teams would water down academics, St Thomas excepted.

If GF gets a Mantoba Junior team, a GF or EGF NAHL team seems much more unlikely.

Illinois’s AD talks about a future hockey team: https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-Fighting-Illini-hockey-Josh-Whitman-big-questions-remain-132974025/ The original plan was to rent the proposed downtown Champaign arena as it will also be used for wrestling, volleyball, and M&W gymnastics. But now UI plans to own that building, which has caused delays. If it’s not delayed further they can have a hockey team by 2022. UI doesn’t plan to offer women’s hockey, but either women’s lax or women’s field hockey.

Never yet have heard a decent proposal from you on how to save and make the Summit League prosper. Adding Bellarmine would have at least given the Summit a real beginning at an Eastern division, but Bellarmine will probably do what N Kentucky did, leave the A Sun to join the Horizon, which doesn’t take DI transitioning teams. The move by the A Sun is just a mirage, as they don’t have to be positioned for FBS until 2025. Why invite FCS schools that want to move up half a decade before it happens when the G5 will attempt to stop it with new rules if it vegans? Know the Northern Big Sky to the Summit just absolutely eats you up with anger. Montana would lose its major rivalries with SUU and Sac St, and you care more about those ”rivalries” than a stable Summit League. The Summit has lost a quadrillion schools in the past 40 years, but somehow you stating it is stable will magically change it. If PUFW, WIU, or ORU leave, the Summit will have an existential crisis unless they add footballl. Nothing you have said changes that.

Bellarmine was invited to the A Sun to start next year. https://www.wdrb.com/sports/crawford-bellarmine-set-to-announce-move-to-ncaa-division-i/article_de0303a6-90f8-11e9-8b20-372ae2c7e255.html The Horizon League may invite them and iPFW after Bellarmine hase finished their transition.

https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/15/charley-walters-low-key-rocco-baldelli-has-just-the-right-touch-for-twins/ Blurb about St Thomas will approach the NCAA to skip DII and move right on to DI. They want to be like Creighton, Marquette, Xavier, etc, Don’t think the NCAA will approve that, but could be wrong. If Augustana gets invited to the Summit, the Northern Sun will need someone to stay at an even #.

Earlier, had said the drop dead date was the end of this June. But any mass movement before next May would be acceptable, but planning a new football schedule and referees would be a problem. Think they don’t want to announce too early as the G5 could take action at their next NCAA meetings this summer to prevent more FBS moveups. While hate to admit it, NDSU probably has the biggest football cachet among any sub AAC or sub MWC school. Getting a Denver Metro and Salt Lake Metro team would also be important, and those would be available. Great Northern (old RR that frontiered the states) or American Outback conference or Northern Lights conference (maybe the Aurora Borealis Conference instead as its starts with ‘A’)

Mankato has an endowment of under $60 mill, while Morningside has one just above $30 mill. Not nearly enough. St Thomas, over $400 million, has one that could elevate it to DI eventually. Augustana needs a sugar daddy or a big gift to finance that DI endeavor, as it has a larger endowment than Mankato but still under $70 million.

Get Cole Bergan to transfer from N Colorado too, so he can play with his brother Andrew. Cole was only a freshman.

Speaking from the 7-0 foot Jordan Meidinger experience?

It was mentioned in another thread here, but don’t recall which one and searching doesn’t seem to retrieve it.