fightingsioux4life

I just couldn't resist. All the arrogance that has come out of Fargo this season is absolutely nauseating. You would think they are angling to move up to FBS and aim for the BCS. They will be a contender in the playoffs, but today's loss should bring them back down to earth a little bit.

It's a rivalry, that's what rivals do. They have never given us any quarter, so I won't do so for them either.

Back to business here. The D has to come up with just one more stop to secure the win.

That's right. Youngstown 27, NDSU 24 in the (Fabulous) Fargodome. As Scott Miller would say....MY OH MY!!!

The defense has played lights out today. Aside from issues in the secondary with pass coverage, the defense has been a major strength all season long. I think they'll have to close out the game for us today.

Here's an idea: buy out the South Dakota School of Mines game and replace it with a money game vs. one of the programs listed above. Yes, we would lose a home game, but this would be a case of addition by subtraction! I would rather drive 300 miles to watch us play the Gophers at TCF Bank Stadium than sit in the Alerus Center for 3 hours to watch us play the freaking "Hard Rockers". I want that game off the schedule!

Around 4 minutes left in the 3rd Quarter. Tied at 7-7. Defense has been solid, offense has been sluggish.

7-7 at halftime. We must get the offense going if we are going to win.

We just HAVE to get a QB in the off-season. Joey "McNabb" Bradley has shown us absolutely nothing and I don't know if anyone else coming up is any good. A solid, accurate QB would make this a very good team next year.

Har, Har, Har. Enjoy your status as #1 in the nation while you can. Shoot, go hang a banner if it inflates your already inflated ego (you hang banners for every little accomplishment as it is). But the banners I want to hang aren't given out in November and I am going to enjoy some payback in Janurary in Grand Forks. Having said that, it's kind of nice that your fan base is back to its old arrogant self; it just hasn't been the same with the Rodent program being down. That will make the payback that much sweeter.

The North Dakota Senate has voted 39-7 to allow UND to drop the name and logo with the "cooling off period" amendment: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hzxfmf50-6VEp-jdQIBDqifj9MYQ?docId=c822fb3fac244a1c9a8c1f5020094bd2 Now it's on to the House where I hope "Clueless Al" doesn't try to sabotage this.

It looks like the legislature has opted for the sanity of a cooling-off period instead of what "Clueless Al" wanted: http://www.kfgo.com/fm-headline-news.php?ID=0000005911 Grand Forks Rep. Stacey Dahl says the measure prevents UND from adopting a new nickname and logo until January 2015. She calls it a "cooling-off" period. Now this is more like it. That would give everyone time to "cool off" and it would allow us to proceed with entrance into the Big Sky Conference. It also would give Spirit Lake time to proceed with their lawsuit, which I hope is successful. The NCAA needs a big helping of humble pie.

Here is a link to the KFGO web site: http://www.kfgo.com/...p?ID=0000005911 Here is the passage that talks about "Clueless" Al's proposed amendment: House Republican Majority leader Al Carlson has another amendment to block the university from dropping the nickname and logo until all lawsuits over the issue have been settled. Espegard calls Carlson's proposal "wrongheaded." The committees will vote on the amendments later Tuesday. The other amendments being tossed around only pertain to not picking a new name right away; which is what will probably happen anyway. Like I said above, THIS MUST BE DEFEATED!!! Our future depends on it.

KFGO reported this morning that Rep. Al Carlson (R-Fargo) is offering an amendment to the nickname law that would require UND to keep the name and logo until all legal action has been exhausted. The Spirit Lake lawsuit could take years to resolve in the Federal Courts. That would mean no Big Sky Conference, no home playoff games and an almost impossible scheduling situation for most of our teams. This amendment MUST BE DEFEATED or else it's NAIA here we come!

The move to Division I and the corresponding decrease in the quality of home games (Sioux Falls, Black Hills State) has lead to a decrease in interest in the program. The move to the Big Sky Conference (assuming the ND Legislature does what it needs to do next week) will breathe life into this program.

The questions you have to ask yourselves are: Is it worth destroying a car to save the hood ornament? Is it worth destroying a house to save the flamingos decorating the front lawn? The nickname armageddon crowd would say yes to those questions. The pragmatists like myself would say no. And for the sake of our entire institution, I hope the ND Legislature says no to jumping off the cliff for no real benefit.

Just keep telling yourself this nonsense if it makes you feel better, but it ain't gonna happen. I don't think an AHL team would want to come here; I don't know if we have enough people to support a minor league team full of players people know nothing about. I am also not sure if people would buy tickets for that many games year after year. This issue was decided the day the State of North Dakota signed that horrible legal agreement. I never would have signed it, but it's done and we can't go back in time to change it. Control what you can control. This is completely out of our control.

Please tell me you are kidding. Do you really think we could sue our way into the Big Sky Conference? Do you really think we could sue teams and force them to schedule us? What law is any of this nonsense based on? The Big Sky Conference has every right to decide which teams to include or not. Unless those reasons somehow violate Civil Rights laws (laws that protect people from racial or gender discrimination), there is no way you could force them to admit us as a member. And why would we want to join a conference under those circumstances anyway? Just keep telling yourself all this nonsense if it makes you feel better, but I think you are the one that has lost touch with reality.

North Dakota 45 Sioux Falls 10 Otherwise, it will get ugly on this forum and the coaching seat will get hot for Mussman.

I knew the Nickname-At-All-Costs crowd would use this as an example of how the sanctions wouldn't hurt us at all if we keep the name. But this is pure apples and oranges. Alcorn State should in no way be considered a peer institution with the University of North Dakota. And deep down Fetch, you know that. The NCAA sanctions are targeted at the post-season. Alcorn State isn't impacted by the sanctions simply because their teams are almost never good enough to qualify for the post-season. They are best known as the home of Steve McNair, who finished third in the Heisman Trophy balloting in 1993 and went on to a good career in the NFL with the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans. When is the last time their football team did anything in the post-season? Or their basketball teams? Or anything else? If you aren't good enough to qualify for NCAA post-season games, the sanctions won't matter. Such is the case with Alcorn State. But at UND, our teams qualify for the post-season all the time. The sanctions WILL be used by our rivals against us in recruiting (especially by that glorified Ag College 75 miles down the road on I-29) once they are in place and permanent. Minnesota, Wisconsin and whoever else WILL stop scheduling us for regular season games. The reason the sanctions haven't hurt recruiting or scheduling yet is that they haven't been in place long enough (two and a half months). Also, Alcorn State hasn't made themselves a target of the NCAA by taking up legal arms and fighting these monopolists in court. It was the right thing to do, but the bad part is that it does lead to retaliation. And one of the consequences is that the NCAA will "encourage" other schools to not schedule us. And who can blame them for trying to protect themselves by not scheduling us? I certainly don't. Alcorn State doesn't have to worry about conference affiliation because they are in an established conference and have been for some time. Their conference doesn't seem to be bothered by it, but our potential conference (the Big Sky) is bothered by it and has been consistent about that for some time. Alcorn State also is not prominent enough for anyone else to care if they are being sanctioned or not because they never win anything. It would be like Morningside getting sanctioned by the NCAA back when they were known as the Maroon Chiefs. Morningside was so insignificant at most sports that it really didn't matter to the rest of the NCC if they were being sanctioned. The reason the Big Sky hasn't kicked us out yet is because they are waiting to see what happens on November 7th in Bismarck when the legislature meets for the special redistricting session and will take up this issue once again. But if "Clueless Al" Carlson and his cronies get their way, the following will happen, in this order: -The Big Sky will revoke their offer of membership in their league (remember, our membership isn't official until July 1st, 2012). -Minnesota and Wisconsin will announce they will no longer schedule us in any sport in which we don't share conference affiliation(including hockey). Other schools, pressured by the autocrats at the NCAA, will follow suit. -Recruiting will become increasingly difficult for football and basketball because of the lack of conference affiliation. Coaches like Chris Mussman and Brian Jones will leave for better jobs elsewhere. Gene Roebuck will retire and get out while the getting is good. -The athletic department will bleed red ink from the travel costs of being a Division I independent and the scheduling difficulties until it is determined that a move to NAIA will be required (both to escape the sanctions and to cut costs). -The hockey teams will then be forced to leave the NCAA and petition the CCAA for membership. With our fan base, facilities, tradition and media exposure, they will welcome us with open arms. But it will represent a clear downgrade from what we enjoy today. -While all this is happening, the Ag College will become a national power in FCS football, winning national title after national title and their basetball programs will become well-known in March in the NCAA tournament. They will gladly (and gleefully) fill the vaccum created by our implosion and destruction created by "Clueless Al" Carlson and the myopic viewpoint of the nickname-at-all-costs crowd. That is our future as an athletic department and as an institution under NCAA sanctions Fetch. Maybe you can live with it. But most of us who love the University of North Dakota cannot. End Rant.

This is inexcusable. We are struggling against an 0-8 team. I don't care if it's on the road, it just shouldn't happen. If we have this much trouble against the bottom of the Big Sky conference, God help us when we play Montana and Montana State.

You nickname-at-all-costs people are absolutely amazing. You care more about the nickname and logo and REA's cherished status as a "private entity" than the University of North Dakota, the UND Athletic Department and the success of our teams. Someone on another thread questioned my loyalty because I think keeping the name and logo at all costs is a bad idea. I think it's a better idea to question the loyalty of REA, Inc. and the nickname-at-all-costs crowd. It's obvious your first priority isn't the health and success of the University of North Dakota. If REA's management really was stupid enough to kick UND out and bring in some Major Junior team or AHL team, I would not spend one dime of my money to set foot in that place ever again. I think Grand Forks would reject whatever carpetbagger scab team that REA, Inc. would put in there and this "private entity" would find out that being private is a double-edged sword. As for the BESC, I suppose the high schools or the YMCA league could use it. But again, that wouldn't pay the bills, either. And it would serve them right. If this indeed happened, I would love it if UND would renovate and refurbish the Old REA and re-establish the atmosphere we had in that place for so long. And then we could do the same for Hyslop Sports Center. I think we could find some room in that $300 million endowment the Alumni Association is collecting to make it happen. And then REA, Inc. could go pound sand you-know-where. Like I said above, it would serve them right. End Rant.

You nickname-at-all-costs people are absolutely amazing. You care more about the nickname and logo and REA's cherished status as a "private entity" than the University of North Dakota, the UND Athletic Department and the success of our teams. Someone on another thread questioned my loyalty because I think keeping the name and logo at all costs is a bad idea. I think it's a better idea to question the loyalty of REA, Inc. and the nickname-at-all-costs crowd. It's obvious your first priority isn't the health and success of the University of North Dakota. If REA's management really was stupid enough to kick UND out and bring in some Major Junior team or AHL team, I would not spend one dime of my money to set foot in that place ever again. I think Grand Forks would reject whatever carpetbagger scab team that REA, Inc. would put in there and this "private entity" would find out that being private is a double-edged sword. As for the BESC, I suppose the high schools or the YMCA league could use it. But again, that wouldn't pay the bills, either. And it would serve them right. If this indeed happened, I would love it if UND would renovate and refurbish the Old REA and re-establish the atmosphere we had in that place for so long. And then we could do the same for Hyslop Sports Center. I think we could find some room in that $300 million endowment the Alumni Association is collecting to make it happen. And then REA, Inc. could go pound sand you-know-where. Like I said above, it would serve them right. End Rant.

It's hard to believe that two putrid programs like Men's Basketball and Football are the most popular sport at Minnesota while Men's Hockey is third. I guess fans down there don't mind losing.

4 goals on 42 shots is a solid offensive effort, especially in a league game on the road. Giving up 5 goals on 15 shots, on the other hand, is a poor defensive effort. Looks like the D-Zone coverage still needs some work; four goals should be enough to win most games.