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2 hours ago, Ozzie82 said:
I guess the nine other people who upvoted 1983’s comment are sensitive and lacking fortitude today too, huh?
You mean this site actually attracts overly biased UND fans/alumni? Who would have thought such a novel concept possible?
This site is anything but a credible democracy. In fact, the response to any form of criticism on this board is often exaggerated and illogical. It actually ruins the ability for fair two-sided discussion.
I mean, this "issue" (or whatever you want to call it) now becoming the hot topic on this thread perfectly exemplifies both the current lull on UND football and the irrationality amongst many who call themselves UND fans. If you don't like what someone has to say, don't read it and/or certainly don't subscribe and comment.
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5 hours ago, UND1983 said:Can you shutup already? We got it.
Sincerely,
Everyone
Bit sensitive today, huh?
Hope you're not too closely associated with the football program; UND football needs a lot more fortitude than that in order to rebound back from 2017.
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It's going to be a prove it or lose it type of season for Bubba. Last season just plain sucked. Bubba and his program need to prove they can walk the walk and win some games. Unfortunatley, due to that, spring ball and fall camp will be minimally intriguing to many this year. I know I'm one of those who feel last year dug this program into a !@#$ hole. Top 10 preseason turned to league bottom feeder will do that to you. I also feel the support for football from an athletic administrative and financial level is iffy at best and that is discouraging.
Bottomline: desperately need results (wins)
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On 3/7/2018 at 10:07 PM, UNDBIZ said:
Heaven forbid someone feign confidence about the future of UND athletics.
Yeah,
Confidence is quite rare amongst the ol' Grand Forks folks. Be humble, right?
Wrong - time to expect a winner.
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Summit > BSC, especially for UND
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3 hours ago, nodak651 said:
Here is something to talk about, courtesy of Tom Miller, who I just bashed.
"Schweigert has decided to no longer coach a position group. He had previously coached UND's cornerbacks..."
"Schweigert said the move was made so he could spend more time monitoring both the offense and the defense during practice."
"Travis Stepps has moved from coaching safeties to cornerbacks."
"Joel Schwenzfeier has moved from coaching outside linebackers to safeties."
"Defensive coordinator Eric Schmidt has moved from inside linebackers to outside linebackers. Carl Reinholz takes over the inside linebackers."
"These coaching tweaks also make sense considering Stepps was an NCAA Division II All-American corner at Pittsburg State, Schwenzfeier was a UND safety and Schmidt was a UND outside linebacker."
I like the change. Not sure about Reinholz at inside linebackers, though. Isn't he pretty new and played wr in college?
Not much else screams cheap more than the head coach coaching a position group. Particularly when there is no other position coach in that role.
The financial situation is less than ideal. Thin ice as far as I'm concerned.
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1 hour ago, Fry Bread said:
Ok. The football forum, minus our complaining, is about dead.
Spring ball started two days ago and hardly a word.
Come on people. Let’s hear some chatter, some critiques, and some criticism.
90% of the time this forum is the only link us fans hundreds of miles away have.
We need to get this up to a fevered pitch by August.
Bubba's program took a complete nosedive during 2017 and the folks around the program can sense it.
We'll eventually see if 2017 was an exception or the new norm for "Bubba Ball"; I'm not holding my breath. Hoping for a turnaround, though, obviously.
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56 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:
I didn’t mean to be too brash. I agree facilities are important. They are. Though not as much as the proven commodity you put on the field, even given a crappy deck of cards. We had rotten luck with injuries this past year, but didn’t do ourselves any favors in HOW we played and adjusted to those injuries. If kid want to know how they will or will not be used, our play style does not boast confidence.
that being said it is always important to improve facilities and I am for it. BUT Bubba better have a tighter leash on Rudy this year. I would have liked Rudy gone after last season. If I see the same garbage again, I would like to see them both gone after this season. I’ve said before Bubbas chance to make a coaching change has come and gone. He made his decision and needs to be held accountable if it fails (again). I hope it succeed, but definitely needs to see some proof on the field.
HPC phase II funding and the coaching deficits are two separate issues, but they are just that: issues.
They need to both be addressed.
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5 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said:
I agree 100%.
But that is a completely separate fiscal issue for the annual budget.
However, UND Football alums will be privately fundraising for uniforms and helmets I believe this year.
UND Football alums alone raised north of 1.2 million dollars in the last year via the leadership of the National Football Alumni Committee which are earmarked for facilities (Phase II), priority needs, scholarships and endowments.
The UND Football endowment currently sits around 2 million.
All great things to hear.
Plenty of aims for current funding, both short-term and long-term:
HPC Phase II (long-term), scholarships, coaches' salaries (short-term), uniforms and helmets (short-term)
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1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:
The spring game should be more of an event. It's a glorified practice right now.
Exactly my thoughts as well. Why disregard the extra opportunity to excite fans in the Alerus Center? Trial run for new, exciting in-game production for the fall?
Instead, entire opportunity is being overlooked. Poor marketing.
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41 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:
It doesn't help with an AD still in Washington, and a president interviewing in Florida. That's not comforting to donors right now.
Ain't this is the truth ...
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No spring game: confirmed.
Not a huge deal in the overall scheme of things. Most important factor is on-the-field success (aka wins). Until UND can beat NDSU, they will remain second fiddle in the region. Has nothing to do with #1 team in country status, but rather #1 team in region. Just so happens that #1 team in region is also #1 in country.
Was hoping 2017 was going to be the year. Of course, under such high expectations, UND choked big time instead.
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The relatively unique (and utterly pathetic) lack of a true spring game in the Alerus Center will again occur, I'm sure.
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These things require money, which the UND football program currently does not have. Have to reappropriate within the department, patiently wait for some mystery endowment, or continue to have UND football scrape by with the bare minimum.
Adidas apparel contract does allow UND a few options, although not to the level of top tier FCS programs.
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27 minutes ago, darell1976 said:
Now that the twins won their gold medal are they going to rally their fanbase especially Schlossman to get more articles printed trying to get UND to reinstate women’s hockey?
Women's hockey remains far too stale.
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8 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
You're drawing a false correlation between "marketing" and "enrollment." This discussion is specifically about Twin Cities advertising, and whether President X spent more than President Y. I don't think it unreasonable to ask for something concrete to demonstrate that the expenditures by either school have had any impact whatsoever on enrollment from the Twin Cities. Anecdotal evidence about who saw what billboard when and where -- especially when the "who" is very likely outside the target demographic -- is meaningless.
The BS, by the way, was the unfounded attack on President Kelley, a hobby for which some around here have an unnatural hard-on.
Yes, in regards to Twin Cities advertising, I don't think expenditures will tell the whole story. As I mentioned, strategy/placement is a critical additional factor. I think NDSU outdid UND with this during the Kelley years.
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10 hours ago, Cratter said:
That data is quite difficult to come across, as far as directly comparing advertising.
When it comes to such advertising, what folks gather by just being present is about as good of a measure as any; they are directly observing the very metric set out by the advertising itself.
Marketing/advertising goes well beyond the expenditures; strategy and effort makes a tremendous difference.
To "call BS" on something of that sort is perhaps unfounded criticism. NDSU has outdone UND in terms of marketing and enrollment during the past decade, hands down. It may hurt for some, but bite the bullet and admit the facts.
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4 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
I'm gonna call BS on this. As another poster noted, there was a continuous presence especially in the later years of Kelley's tenure. And I personally have seen the I-94 billboard and Target Field ads for years.
Kelley-bashing for advertising seems kind of pathetic, unless you have data to back it up. Show us the year-to-year expenditures and the results. It's public record, I'm sure.
Besides, how effective is any kind of advertising for college-bound students? Has UND enrollment from the TC even varied that much? For my money, I'd rather buy the guidance counselors at top area high schools a weekly dinner at Ruth's Chris...that's going to have as much impact as anything.
Twin Cities advertising for UND was poor during Kelley years. Period.
NDSU presence far outweighed that of UND during said timeframe. Perhaps still does but at least closer now.
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15 hours ago, nodak651 said:
Technically, the majority of attendance is going to be there regardless. UND draws 7k - 8k with bottom of the barrel teams. Bandwagon fans can only reach about 5k before the stadium sells out. I agree with your sentiment, though. I would say the number 1 factor of increased attendance beyond 7k - 8k baseline is wins.
Sorry for the nitpicking
Let me clarify: majority of attendance fluctuation is based on wins and loses.
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Majority of attendance is based on wins and loses. Changes made for tailgating and in-game entertainment also make a difference, although to a much lesser degree.
Attendance to start 2017 season was great due to work done during 2016 season.
What transpired during 2017 will undoubtedly hurt 2018's season attendance. Unexpected wins (Washington, Sam Houston, Montana) and eventually a postseason appearance are absolutely needed if UND wants to reach 10,000 on a consistent basis.
This attendance situation is just one reason why 2017 was such a disappointment. Bubba needs to be held accountable like everyother DI head coach in America.
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7 minutes ago, lets eat said:
March 10, 2014
Wow, thanks for keeping track.
He sure won a lot of games at UNLV, huh? Mollberg and Bartles didn't exactly produce much either, but why does playing on a poor FBS team versus a FCS team suddenly make you better. It doesn't, quite frankly.
Again, another subjective crapshoot we have on our hands here. Congrats.
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3 hours ago, lets eat said:
According to famed QG guru UND-FB-Fan Palendech wasn't as talented as Molberg or Bartles "just that simple"
When did I say "Palendech wasn't as talented as ... "? Furthermore, which year was Palendech all-conference or which NFL team did he play for?
Give me a break.
Folks around here conveniently forget about winning as the bottom line. If you don't want to consider objective results (such as wins), then everything thereafter becomes a subjective banter act. I think it's beyond laughable that people want to frame Mussman's QBs as so damn good when their respective W-L results were all so poor.
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8 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:
The coaches have completely blown it when it comes to qbs in the Bubba era. Mussmans staff was much better with qbs.
Both poor from my standards.
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8 hours ago, iramurphy said:
Heidlebaugh wasn't. They talked about him as an athlete from the beginning and a possible TE.
He was only scholarship QB recruit brought in for that class. This when the QB scenario was in shambles (2014-15) with Mollberg injury and Studsrud looking poor, albeit his true freshman season, for the final 4 of 2014. Narrative at the early juncture was that Bubba was heading to Rugby to find UND it's "future QB".
Plenty of subjectivity with all of this, but the fact remains that UND has minimally recruited the QB position; and the few they have brought in have changed positions or simply moved on (Mollberg, Heidlebaugh, kid from Minot).
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