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The fact that a court order apology had to be issued seems ridiculous in the first place. As a parent, I would have been on that before going through the court system. I would have talked with the other kids parents and apologized myself, had lengthy conversations with my kid; and a written apology wouldn't cut it, that apology better be face to face and sincere. Not know everything that happened here, it sure seems like there were a lot of failures on the way to this happening.

100% agree with this, and who know where they stand with some of this, that stuff doesn't always come out publicly. When something like this happens with kids, I immediately wonder where the parents are at. I for one am extremely mindful in talking about this stuff with my kids. As much as I would hate to watch them get bullied, I absolutely never want to see them on the other side of that either. Maybe the parents did everything right to point this kid towards the right actions, maybe not. I would be very interested to see how they responded to this though. We all know those parents who would never acknowledge their kids wrongdoings, even when it is staring them in the face. Truth is we probably will never know in this case.

Fair points, I would be interested to know how MM actually feels about all of this. Is he truly remorseful, or not. If he is not, then it certainly say a lot about the kind of person he is.

Just started doing a little more research, and I agree there was some terrible stuff out there. Though the article I read was still pretty vague; if you have any specific links could you send them to me. I would be interested to know more. Thanks.

Dude, I'm not tolerating anything, and I probably haven't read into this as much as some of you, other than what has been posted on here. I'll make a point to do that; all I'm saying is what someone does as a kid is not what should define them for the rest of their life. I don't know the kid, and I'm guessing you don't either. Maybe he is a good kid that did something wrong, maybe he really is a POS that doesn't deserve another shot. I truly have no idea, but who am I to judge without knowing the whole story or the kid himself. For the record its the same judgement your putting in your post. You don't know me or anything about me. I have no tolerance for bullying or use of the N-word, and I have three kids. Our family has constant conversation about what we expect in terms of behavior. How to react if you are being bullied, or see someone else being bullied, or have friends that are being bullies. My only point in the who post I made was should his actions as an 8th grader, as egregious as they may have been, prevent him from other opportunities later in life? Should every kid that has ever done something wrong, be eliminated from college consideration or a job? I don't have those answers, I'm just surprise how many people think they do with out even being a party to the situation.

Some of you just amaze me. A kid does something he shouldn't have, and we want to hold it against him for the rest of his life. Was it right? Absolutely not! Should he have been held accountable at the time? Yes! (though I don't know if he was) Regardless, how many people here did stupid stuff when they were in 8th grade that is the complete opposite of the people they are today? I know I did dumb things that I wouldn't want to be judged on as an adult. I also know that I faced bullies, as so many kids do, and I also wouldn't want to have those kids lives ruined because they were jerks when they were little. In fact, I've run into several of those folks years later and seen them turn into fine people. In some regards, its like using slang word from that same age group. The term faggot was thrown around a lot when I was in middle school and probably even high school. Did kids understand the gravity of the word, how it might hurt or offend people? No, at that age it was a meaningless word; you just used it for people you didn't like, just like calling someone an A-hole. The point is, things you say or do as a kid, does not directly reflect the kind of person you are, or the kind of person you become. To hold someone, especially a kid, to that high of a standard is not only asinine, it is hypocritical, because the number of people out there who can honestly say they never did something they regret as a kid, is few and far between. Should the kid have directly apologized? Yes, that would have been the right thing to do; but we can't control how kids think, act, or respond. This guy is no longer in 8th grade, but he is still a kid. I question how his parents may have handled the situation, but that is also not fair to judge, as none of us really know all of the details there either. Should this have become a pattern over years, or should another incident occur, I think there is more validity to the harsh comments some of you have. But I would say that before you want to condemn someone for the rest of their life because of something they did (obviously there are some exceptions here), think back to something you did as a kid, or something a friend may have done that you watched and said nothing, or how you would want to see this play out if it was you kid. Again, I'm not defending what this player did. I find it disgusting, and would be extremely disappointed if I learned that my kid did that, but I think we also need to be careful on just how hard we judge the actions of a kid in 8th grade, and how long they should have to face punishment for some of those actions. There is a lot of grey area in there.

At least Starman has some insight on the teams and players.

Yeah I originally just put melrose, then edited my post to add Bucci. He is more likeable than Melrose but he still sucks. I’d way rather listen to Heinert and Brandt. At least they know college hockey and the teams. Bucci and Melrose sounds like they are commentating a discount video game. C’mom Bucci, we all know where Grandma keeps the peanut butter, no need to tell us anymore.

That would be cool, I think he did the MN HS Hockey Tourney a few years back. Could we start a petition to have him do the Frozen Four and replace Bucci and Melrose?

Yeah, I'm not nuts about the black Jerseys in football. I like the greens. I would actually prefer the greys to the blacks.

Now more than ever!

Ugh I hope not. Boltmann is a tremendous athlete, but has done nothing to step up in that position at the college level, other than some flashy trick plays. I'd way rather see him lined up at WR and maybe the Brockstar formation here and there. I get not wanting to burn eligibility, in which cash Schuster would make the most sense, but he only has 1 game of experience, so he isn't way ahead of anybody else. If Vaughan or Neal come in and prove to be the best, then the I could care less about eligibility. Whoever gives the team the best chance to win should play. Just my opinion ... which may sound like I'm down on Brock, but I'm not. I'm a big fan of Brock, I just think he can be better utilized than a full time QB.

I'll take spring over nothing, but as we watch FBS leagues and High School sports backpedal and reverse their decisions, I think it is pretty clear a lot of people jumped the gun with the decision to cancel or postpone events.

So who wins the QB battle, now that the new guys will have so much more time in the system? Vaughan certainly has the size and arm strength, Neal sounds pretty athletic, and Schuster has some live game experience (though extremely limited). There has been zero reporting that I have seen on the players or the progress of the team this fall. So, any thoughts?

^This ... if you have one kid that can't tie his shoes, do you make everyone else wear velcroe? Some people will have more severe symptoms, does that mean everyone else has to suffer the impact? I'm not saying people shouldn't exercise caution ... they should. I'm not saying teams, schools or leagues shouldn't have new rules in place ... they already do. But the overall numbers, don't seem to quite reflect the scary story that was preached several months ago. I think we have seen an unknow (which was certainly unnerving) turn into a political agenda, with the public, students, athletes, fans, workers, and so many more taking the brunt of the impact. It sucks! Life can't snap back to 100% normal overnight, but we should be working towards that. As much as I hated hockey getting cancelled last spring, it was more understandable, because we Covid was the unknown, but cancelling the football season, and bumping FCS back to spring seemed extremely hasty and premature (in my opinion).

Agreed, I would have liked to have seen them play. If nothing else, it gets the young kids on the field and gets them some experience. Anyone hear anything about how fall/spring camp is going?

Agreed, I think many have gotten to the point where we still need to be cautious and smart, and considerate of others who may take extreme caution, but altogether, people still want to be able to live their lives. Temporary disruption seemed acceptable as we learned what was happening. Obviously we have more to learn, and this isn't going away tomorrow, but we can't put life completely on hold for a year or more either. Certainly hopeful that with time, and hopefully a vaccine of some sort, that life shifts back closer to normal by next summer.

Any updates from fall/spring camp?

Sounds the kid has a good head on his shoulders, and certainly some skill on the field. Could we get a few more high caliber guys like this for 2021 please!

Whatever happened to Bruner. Did he transfer out and play anywhere, or just quit the game?

I hate the idea of football in the spring, but I guess it is still better than no football at all. More time for some of these young players to get up to speed. Hopefully, life looks more normal by next spring and the 2021 season will bring with it some normal schedules and a lot of fans. It will be interesting to see how this impacts the draft next year.

Woah woah woah!!! That would require the NC$$ to think outside of the box and get creative. Fun thought though.

This sucks!

Agreed, you do what you need to for recruiting. More of a statement of just how stupid our youth and pop culture can be.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. I’ll take hockey in an empty arena over no hockey at all, but seriously when will this all get back to normal!